The production offices are slowly coming alive as we prepare for SG-1's 10th and Atlantis's 3rd seasons. We're in great shape scriptwise and it looks like, this year, we'll have a record numer of scripts in hand prior to the start of production. We've spent the last couple of weeks reviewing one another's first drafts, providing input, and working on rewrites. What have you been working on, you may ask?
Well, on the Atlantis side, things start off with No Man's Land, written by Martin Gero. It picks up where Allies, the season 2 season finale, left off. Lots of action and intrigue in "the belly of the beast". After much discussion, Paul still doesn't have a name for the show's second episode. Potential titles have included: "Remnants", "Executive Decision" and, my favorite, "The Grapes of Wraith". Robert C. Cooper's "Sateda" is my favorite Cooper script in ages. It offers a less than happy reunion, some very funny lines and character moments, and some good old-fashioned team bonding as Ronon's past comes back to haunt him - and, by association, the rest of the team. No script yet on the tentatively titled Delicious Fat Guy, but Brad is hard at work on it as we speak. Another two episodes come compliments of Carl Binder, a couple of very well-written, very tight scripts (typical of Carl, that show-off) in which we are introduced to a brand new villain who's handywork we have already come across. Progeny gets the ball rollling in an episode that introduces the new baddies and sheds some light on some of the Pegasus Galaxy's former tenants. The Real World follows up with a seriously creepy episode. Poor Weir. As we speak, Martin is hard at work on episode 6, the "McKay's Sister" story.
Over on SG-1, Flesh and Blood, written by Rob, answers the burning question posed by the season 9 finale: "What the hell is going to happen next?!!!" There's a lot going on in this episode and the unfolding action keeps every member of the team busy. Got the notes on episode 2, Morpheus, and just finished the rewrite on Friday. No major changes from the first draft. Brad is working on episode 3 while Alan handed in his best script to date: Insider. Stargate Command is going to have their hands full juggling - well, what does the average person juggle, right? - in this one. Damian is working on the rewrite of Uninvited, episode 5. Rob suggested we try to break the big 200th episode sometime next week. Brad already has a rough draft of his piece. No notes on episode 7, Counter-Strike, or episode 8, Memento Mori, yet. The #9 slot is blank, but it looks like Alan will be stepping in to pen the big "rescue op" story he pitched (nice to see the Lucian Alliance making their presence known as things develop) - and of course episode 10 and 11 will be the big mid-season Quest two-parter.
Watched what was perhaps the worst horror movie I've ever seen last week, a French movie called "Haute Tension". I've always enjoyed watching foreign horror films because its interesting to check out another country's sensibilities when it comes to horror - so, when I heard that Lions Gate had picked up this film for distribution, I was expecting good things. Or, at the very least, mediocre things. This movie's "clever twist" is so implausible, so ridiculous, that you have to wonder what the hell they were thinking. Spoiler Alert and note to the makers of this movie: Someone with a split personality cannot initiate a car chase with him or herself!
Other than that, finished season 6 of South Park (loved the Christmas episode and Jimmy's rendition of The Twelve Days of Christmas), almost done on season 3 of Homicide, and my wife and I are blazing through the first season of The Amazing Race (Boo Team Guido!) which, for some reason, took me forever to track down. Am almost finished VanDread on the anime front and am eyeing Samurai Champloo as someone has my Gungrave.
Also, keep an eye out for two more entries in the In the Making series. As much as I'd love to do a segment on every episode, production demands lead to inevitable delays and, by the time I get around to working on these entries, I've forgotten all about its "making of" aspects unless it was one I happened to write. So, for the time being, I'll just be focusing on the episodes I wrote. You'll have to bug Paul for the behind-the-scenes scoops on Collateral Damage (very dark, and one of my favorite episodes of season 9), and The Tower (Shot in glorious technicolor!).
I feel like I'm forgetting something... Ah well. I'm sure it'll come to me once I've posted this blog.
Coming up this Friday: Critical Mass and, of course, one of my personal faves Ripple Effect. I have lots to say on this one including missing scenes and dialogue that I was loathe to lose but had to for time.
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LaCroix
Well, there's an insightful comment...
Oooh, 200th episode!!!!!
Seriously, get Rick. I'm not fooling around.
Yes, an appearance by Jack O'neill would be most grateful and would forgive a thousand transgressions.
Alyssa
Joe...
I don't remember seeing the cut scenes from 4th Horseman on SciFi. You asked us to remind you about them. Chris was the stand out in that episode, IMHO.
And also, PLEASE let us know about any cut scenes from Ripple Effect you mentioned...otherwise known as the episode over which I'm giddy to the point of spasms.
Another quick question...is Mitchell's dad still alive? I couldn't tell from Collateral Damage.
Thanks as ever...
Mary Beth
Spooks (aka MI5) season 3 will be out on DVD in the US at the end of the month; keep us posted on what you think of it.
Keep up the good work!
--
Spaced1999.
Hey Joe, you've already said that Carter will be in the first 8 episodes of SG-1. Now, it sounds like you've got at least the next three pitched out. Can you tell us if Carter is in those episodes, too?
In Ripple Effect, is there a duplicate for every SG1 member?
I'm really, really, really, really looking foward to Ripple Effect. So you better deliver Joe, or there will be hell to pay ;) :P
Hey Joe!
First, watched "Collateral Damage" last night and it did indeed give us a bit more insight into Mitchell. I loved the flashbacks and I loved Landry talking to Mitchell about the bad mission. Sadly, the rest of the episode seemed a bit too much of a homage to not one, but three or four, Star Trek universe episodes involving a character falsely accused of murder and finding the truth. Been there, done that, bought and returned the t-shirt.
Moving on... I'm looking forward to "Ripple Effect". It can be very refreshing to explore the "what ifs" of the series.
And for the 200th episode, I really hope for a good, old-fashioned, team-based, saving the world episode. Something that acknowleges the mythology of Stargate and the unique strengths of each character. And a visit from Jack would be great if RDA is willing and he's given more than three lines.
Thanks Bunches!
Jo
Hi Joe,
Nice to hear from you again. Feels like AGES. Sounds like it's been productive, though.
I have to say, I gave a little chuckle at the title "Grapes of Wraith" but it obviously depends if that's the feel you're going for. (If that was a joke, then please ignore that last comment.)
As for Ripple Effect, As you can tell, the Carter fans have come out in force. Please, please, please tell us about those missing scenes...we're itching to hear about them (that is if we don't pass out from multiple Carter induced shock first)
Tracy
Count me in too, Joe. I don't come on here much and post, but an appearence by Richard Dean Anderson would really warm my heart. That's all I wanted to say before the comments devolve as they so often do.
M.M.
Not sure why people keep saying season 9 is bad... The last two hours had some of the best gate moments I can remember.. In Fourth horsemen and Daniel reacting to Mitchell being the guinee pig, and the whole teams reaction last night to the relationship between mitchel and the woman. Great stuff. (In fact last night was a great murder mystery.. which I don't think was solved fully.. Why did the director not want his scientists to help SG-1 anymore? Why did he glance at mitchel and the woman when they left?? Could the ex husband been a false implant too?? Very interesting...
On Atlantis I enjoyed the episode last night throughly...Though it did remind me alot of 100 days.. another good episode.
Did you see last weeks TV guide? It mentioned Lam would be in last nights episode, and that mitchel was stuck for a year... Obviously they didn't watch either episode.. Do they write those reviews, or is it just from a Sci-fi press release?
Season 10 and Season 3 sound like a blast.. I can't wait!
Eh, if I want a good mystery, I'll watch Mystery! Collateral Damage was no Inspector Lynley.
Speaking of which, Joe, you should check out the Inspector Lynley mysteries if you get the chance. They're quite enjoyable.
Hi Joe,
Do you still read all of the comments in your blog, or have you given it up as a lost cause?
Keep up the great work Joe! Please tell us about those scenes!!
Please!!!!
looking forward to Ripple Effect. Samurai Champloo's a very good series.
Joe, did you ever finish Babylon 5? Just curious.
Hey Joe - not sure if you got all the way through the last set of blog posts: Collateral Damage was indeed damage. Can you guys spell boring. Why not develop the guy by showing him develop with the team doing stuff besides standing around? Why not show some of his backstory with the team? So far you have given zero on that and we don't even know why they knew each other (except of course for we were told about the antarctica thing)?
This stuff is just more soap opera fluff. Guess Cooper meant it when he mentioned soap operas in one of his recent interviews and the writing is on the wall that skiffy values soap operas since they have scraped the bottom-of-that-barrel by taking on Passions; oh well.
Bonnie Jergensen
Hey Joe , thanks for keeping us in the loop...
Im glad to see things are firing up for you for another year. Unfortunately at this time none of the networks here in NZ are looking to show season 9 of SG1 so the new ones will be VERY far away from when you actually shoot them even
On the movie front have you ever seen Peter Jacksons first movie Bad Taste? I dont know if it is available overseas if not let us know.
As it shows how far things have gone for him and its a great splatter movie.
warmest wishes from an antipodean Isle....
having Jack in the 200 episode would rock
poor Weir ??
come on you have to say more!!
Haute Tension? A french movie... uh, we're from France and never heard of it... maybe it didn't aired... well never mind.
Glad to see you guys are working hard. Any idea when you'll start prepping?
We were also wondering... you guys are producers and writers.... what do you excatly do as producers?
any new writer this year ??
Joe,
Fantastic work on Collateral Damage by the whole team! It's one of my favorite episodes since Window of Opportunity. The whole episode was just well done.
The Atlantis episode also reminded me of 100 days, which I thought was awesome. My only disapproval was how the relationship developed... it was obvious but rushed, at least to me. Still, a great episode... definitely a favorite.
Regards,
Aaron
AHHH! "Trinity"???? Is it really coming back??? You're getting my hopes up way to high, so I only hope that it's true!
Don't fold to Champloo Joe! You expressed not long ago about how you wanted to wait till the whole thing was ready for you, so if you're gonna start stick to it!
I personally wanna know more about episodes YOU'LL be working on for Seasons 10 and 3. You and Paul always tend to write episodes I adore (you guys are up there with Peter DeLuise)!
If more comes up for the McKay's Sister episode please keep us McKay fans informed with the best spoilers. We've been anticipating ever since you spilled it to us!
"Spooks (aka MI5) season 3 will be out on DVD in the US at the end of the month; keep us posted on what you think of it."
Loved the first two seasons and have been waiting for season 3 to come out for quite some time. Thanks for the heads up.
"Hey Joe, you've already said that Carter will be in the first 8 episodes of SG-1. Now, it sounds like you've got at least the next three pitched out. Can you tell us if Carter is in those episodes, too?"
Yup (as in, yes, she will be).
"Joe, did you ever finish Babylon 5? Just curious."
Nope. Last episode I saw was, I believe, the final episode of season 3 where Sheridan takes the swan dive off the balcony down into the dark pit below.
"On the movie front have you ever seen Peter Jacksons first movie Bad Taste?"
Loved it. Paul and I saw it on the big screen some 20 years ago. Hilarious movie.
Joe Mallozzi said:
Yup (as in, yes, she will be).
Sweet.
Joe, just wanted to second the recommendation for Inspector Lynley. If you're into that sort of thing, of course. The series have only gotten successively better.
PS
Tossing my hat into the "Jack for 200" ring.
Teresa
Joe!
I thought we'd lost ya. ;)
Did you get to check out Noises Off? Oh and another of my friends tried and loved my casserole.
I hope I can add you to that list.
;)
Don't miss my above questions too mmmkay?
MB
Joe - good work with having Carter remain on SG1 and be in all episodes so far. will the co-leader thing be addressed on-screen and shown in S10?
Also, will S10 bring back the pure SG1 and team episodes from earlier seasons?
Thank you very much.
Deanna
great to hear from you Joe... nice to see some little spoilers about season 3 and 10!!!!!!!
Cant wait to see them!!!!
Joe did you ever get a chance to watch Serenity? I'm dying to know what you thought of it. Oh and Grapes of Wraith? That title is sooooo a keeper.
Jack in episode 200!!!!!!!!!!!!
Charlene
Poor Weir?? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!!
Japanese Anime is...one of the greatest things to ever grace the Earth(BESIDES Stargate and wrestling).
Check out the Japanese horror movie "Infection".
PEACE!
-MU-
p.s. Go with "Grapes Of Wraith" I'm begging you!
Seasons 10 & 3 sound good so far, can hardly wait to hear more, Joe. Am positively giddy anticipating the rest of 9 and 2. in re your reponse to the Babylon 5 question-- "Nope. Last episode I saw was, I believe, the final episode of season 3 where Sheridan takes the swan dive off the balcony down into the dark pit below."-- You've seen the best of it, IMO. Seasons 4 & 5 had some great eps but, overall, the "magic" ended with JS's leap. The final resolution with the Shadows and their evil cohorts was, to me, heartbreakingly unsatisfying. I know there's some who'll disagree with me, I just hope they don't do it here... :) ... As for horror movies, I haven't heard anyone mention "The Truth About Demons" with Karl Urban-- that may because they've all seen it and didn't find it fit to mention but I enjoyed it, as did the two other people whom I know have seen it. It's no great dark masterpiece, to be sure, but it has its moments. Another I thought had some genuine creepiness to it is "The Calling" with Alice Krige. And, of course, the scariest movie I've ever seen, "Star Trek: Insurrection"-- the scene in the shuttles with Picard and Worf singing to Data... shudder... Wait a minute, that sounds familiar-- did I steal that from someone or have I just mentioned it before..? So, Joe, in between all the blogging writing and producing and prepping and family and ice cream, where do you find the time to watch all these movies and old tv series..? Rhetorical question, of course-- busy people always seem to squeeze in more while us lazy ones never seem to get enough of doing nothing. I never do, anyway... Anyway, looking forward to the 200th ep, however it turns out (ie, with or sans Jack-- tho', if it's with, I'm with the guy who said to give him more than three lines!)... And, I guess that's it... Oh, hey-- How 'bout them Broncos, eh? Did they kick Patriot butt or what... susan in Colorado...
ps-- just remembered one of my all-time favs, tho' it's not a horror film-- "The Blood of Heros" with Rutger Hauer, Joan Chen and a young Vincent D'Onofrio. Lots of senseless violence and gratuitous sex (just kidding-- there's not that much sex!)
Hi Joe.
I just read the 'In the Making' for Ex Deus Machina, and it sounds like a much better episode than what we ended up with. I love that it was originally a Teal'c episode because, as a huge Teal'c fan, I've been feeling a bit ignored so far this season (although CJ truly rocked in Fourth Horseman 2). Anyway, it's a relief to know that as a writer, you've been creating stories for this character even if for financial reasons they haven't been getting to the screen. Thanks for keeping one of my favorite characters in mind. Hope to see much more Teal'c (and Daniel, and Vala) in season 10.
Aaron said, "Fantastic work on Collateral Damage by the whole team! It's one of my favorite episodes since Window of Opportunity. The whole episode was just well done."
I have to agree! My husband and I both agree it's the best episode of the season thus far. To be honest, I wasn't looking forward to it, because the spoilers I had seen seemed to indicate that it would be a rip-off of a Star Trek episode, and I was disappointed in that. However, I was very pleasantly suprised. Although it did have the same premise (a murder committed, memories implanted in our hero's mind), it was well done, with several unexpected twists. As Nate said, In fact last night was a great murder mystery.. which I don't think was solved fully.. Why did the director not want his scientists to help SG-1 anymore? Why did he glance at mitchel and the woman when they left?? Could the ex husband been a false implant too?? Very interesting... I especially liked the scenes in the locker room at the end - with Cam remembering his conversations with his dad, especially when he said "I'm not that strong" and his dad said, "yes you are ..." and we are reminded that Cam went through similar struggles as his dad after he crashed in Antarctica. Also the conversation with Landry, which reminded me that we now know something more about Cam, but his team members don't know what he was seeing in that memory.
I'm so glad to get this comment in before the discussion degrades to bashing anyone and everyone and everything. Keep up the good work ... I think Stargate is still one of the best shows on television - on ANY network!
Joe, just wanted you to know that Collateral Damage was one of the best eps of the season. It was so great to finally get a Mitchell episode where we got to know him a little bit better. Ben did a great job, and I'm loving his character.
Collateral Damage--best episode of the season! Ben Browder rocks! Loved the murder mystery aspect, and the unspoken/unconfirmed government complicity! Didn't realize it until I thought about it later. Interesting and surprising twist. Also, like the way the opening was filmed -- great camera work and film cuts showing Mitchell's confusion and subsequent horror -- excellent! Like the deviousness of this planet's government -- hope the planet is revisited.
Loved the kissing part!
Finally, some background on Mitchell and the bits and pieces that make him who he is. Very interesting.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
Zelda
I'm afraid you guys lost me Friday night with Collateral Damage. It was the worst Stargate SG-1 episode I've ever seen. I used to think that of Demons, but the more I watch that episode, the more I like it; so hopefully, the same thing will happen for me with Collateral Damage. Just watched it for a second time, and sadly, I don't think so.
For some reason I just do not find Mitchell very interesting. It still isn't clear to me why SG-1 needed a fourth to continue. Sam could easily have led the team. I mean, ok so his dad lost his legs, and Mitchell was in a crash saving SG-1 from Anubis in Antarctica. At least Mitchell still has a father. Daniel's father's been dead since the boy was eight. Mitchell seems to be wallowing in self-pity and suffers from a serious lack of self-esteem because of his father's injury. Both are bad characteristics in a team leader. The loss of Daniel's parents seems to have made him stronger, more independent, more self-reliant. Mitchell has risen to the top of his game despite his weaknesses. While we only saw Daniel's father once (well, more than once in The Gamekeeper), he struck me as a rigid pedantic. Daniel could have spent his adult life trying to live up to all manner of imagined paternal expectations; instead he's strong and surprisingly well adjusted. It's just the Ascended memories thing that needs to be addressed. So please please please go there. Please.
My favorite episode in S9 is Prototype. There's clearly a lot going on in Daniel's head concerning Anubis. Love to see that explored. And there's got to be some connection between Anubis and the Ori since both Khalek and the Priors are able to stop bullets just by standing there.
KJM
Oh my goodness Joe. Please tell me you are going to retire soon. I just cannot stant M&M written episodes anymore. For the first time ever since I have been watching Stargate I actually got so bored with an episode I turned it off and did something else. I had to wait 24 hours and than trudged through it. How truely horrible "Collateral Damage" was. How utterly predictable. Please do not write any S10 episodes. Please become an editor to check for grammer or something for some new writers. Maybe you guys should watch BSG for a while to see how things should be. There are no inovative or original ideals anymore on Stargate. Please go away and stop working for this show. I am not attacking you Joe. I mean it sincerly that you cannot write anything exciting. It is all mondane. Predictable. Prove me wrong. Please Joe. Stop what you are doing and THINK. Ponder. Think outside the box.
I can always tell when M&M are the writers by the lack of zip in the episodes. Please, please go away.
Sincerly a long time Stargate fan,
Auntie Em!
Long live Stargate, as long as M&M are not part of it!
As Nate said, In fact last night was a great murder mystery.. which I don't think was solved fully.. Why did the director not want his scientists to help SG-1 anymore? Why did he glance at mitchel and the woman when they left?? Could the ex husband been a false implant too?? Very interesting
I agree, i thought it was obvious the military were behind the murder too. But then, nothing in the episode has been mentionned about being able to rewrite/modify memories, just transfer them up. It also seems that if the husband had been sent by the military, he would not have used a bottle of alcohol to kill her but a weapon with a silencer, this was clearly pointing to passionate murder.
I guess that, for once, that's left very much open to interpretation of the viewer, which is actually very cool. well done guys.
Loved the flashbacks, when CM looked like a madman laughing in front of her dead body, that was great. i also liked the whole sam and cam interaction in this episode.
Please, if the deleted scenes to don't appear on sci-fi, can we at least have them on this season's dvd ?
One or two freelance writers with the new, fresh ideas won't hurt. You really should think about it if you don't want to kill Stargate SG-1 too early.
Joe, I'm a big fan of Amanda and Michael so I'm glad to hear that Sam will be in the SG-1 episodes that you have so far; however, could you please tell us something about Daniel? You said that Daniel will go to Atlantis in SG-1's third episode. Does that mean that Daniel will be in Atlantis's fourth episode or be back in SG-1's fourth episode? If Daniel is in the Atlantis episode when will he be back on SG-1?
"I just cannot stant M&M written episodes anymore."
Oh dear. I don't know how to break it to you, but with my having written three scripts already, and Paul having written one, its very likely that we'll be writing more SG-1's than ever this season. If only you had posted this comment earlier, I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of pitching all those ideas. Well, too late now.
"You really should think about it if you don't want to kill Stargate SG-1 too early."
Too early? We're in season 10.
Well, Collateral Damage wasn't the greatest episode for me either, Joe. I feel like this is the second episode this season where everyone else got nothing to do just for Mitchell. I know he's the new guy and I know that you're trying to catch him up, but it's never going to happen. He's just too far behind Daniel, Carter, and Teal'c. And I'm tired of having the original cast get screwed over for the new guy. Can't you guys write a story where everyone has something to do? Carter just stood around the whole episode. Daniel and Teal'c had nothing, and I mean nothing, to contribute. Right now, I've had all the Mitchell I can take. He's just not very interesting, and I'm starting to become bitter that the characters I do care about are being wallpapered just so the new star(who apparently isn't really) can get some face time.
Joe
Joe, Could you please tell us if Daniel is in all of the episodes that you have so far for SG-1? You said that you are making Daniel darker is season 10 and have also mentioned a very controversial story arc for Daniel. It's nice to know that Sam will be in all of the episodes you have so far for SG-1 but what about Daniel?
Hi Joe,
Wow. You really have the patience of a saint. I'm aghast at how rude some people can be. I stay off the forums for just this reason. I would, however, like to add my own two sense to some of the criticism being put forth so ineloquently here.
Joe, I honestly think that both you and Paul do your best work when you write together. I understand why you both write episodes separately now and how limited your time is these days. But my favorite episodes by you guys were all written back when it was more of a collaborative effort between the two of you.
I think your earlier work struck a better balance between humor and seriousness. Paul's writing is more clinical than yours, and your wit and humor balance out the sometimes sterile nature (Collateral Damage) of his work. Conversely, you sometimes get too hung up on the humorous flow of an episode (TTTB) which results in the characters coming across as overly glib and unconcerned in key situations. But together I think the two of you put out some of the best work Stargate has ever seen. Window of Opportunity, Exodus, Revelations, Prophecy--these episodes really capture the best elements of humor and seriousness and really feel like Stargate should.
This isn't an attempt to bash you guys, I like your stuff. I'm damn sure looking forward to Ripple Effect. Still, I for one would like to see you guys work together more, rather than merely do a pass on eachothers finished scripts.
Just my opinion, Joe. Thanks for your time, and thanks for providing me and my family with years of pure entertainment.
Ray Pullman
Joe,
I never thought I would be saying this as I really like Sam .. but.. I think you need to move her off the team. You need to give her a job that gives her an independent power base from which to interact with the SG1 team.
This idea of “joint command” is something most people won't buy in a military setting.
I can't believe that when Mitchell asked Sam to be on the team he didn't say to her “I want you on the team but I have been assigned as SG1's leader. If you can't live with that I understand”.
You will never have the “old team” back. The “New team” has to win viewer loyalty and it can't do that the way it is configured.
K.
I agree that the command issue isn't going to go away, but I don't think that moving Sam off the team is the answer. Mitchell is the new guy. He's the one with no experience. He's the one who has to prove himself. And if the behavior he demonstrated again in Collateral Damage is any indication, then he's not leadership material. Sorry, but the character is written and acted as if were irresponsible and immature. So far, the "Mitchell episodes" have only been made possible by marginalizing all the other characters in the stories. That's not conducive to a team show. Richard Dean Anderson was always able to make Jack O'neill remain the star and still make sure that everyone played a vital role in almost every single episode. That's not the case with Mitchell. And it sucks. But Sam shouldn't have to suffer any more just so Ben Browder, his fans, or the Mitchell character can feel welcome, important, or vital to the show. Carter isn't the problem. Mitchell is.
Nigel
I keep hoping and hoping this season will improve but alas it just keeps getting worse. Collateral Damage was the first new episode that I have gotten up and did something else while it was on. Aside from the fact that the plot was done on at least 2 Star Treks, it was just awful. I hope this was the episode that finally hit rock bottom and the coming ones finally start improving. I am keeping my fingers crossed for "Ripple Effect".
"Grapes of Wraith" LOL! I hope they pick that one. That's great.
Very entertaining entry. Looks like next season will be pretty awsome. And I am so looking forward to Ripple Effect.
Richard Dean Anderson was always able to make Jack O'neill remain the star and still make sure that everyone played a vital role in almost every single episode
ok we definitively haven't seen the same thing.
This serie is a spin off, SciFi decided to keep the original name for advertising purpose.
To put things in context, CM has been the main character in 2 eps, daniel has been main character for the first 3 eps,prototype and others. Sam wasn't there for half of the season, and teal'c is wallpaper'd as usual, so no biggie for him. I even think he had his best lines this season in the previous episode.i don't even remember about him being a wallpaper until recently.
I mean, i do understand you don't like the new characters and want to see the old SG1. On the contrary i would like to discover what's going on with the new guys and SG1's spin off. i'd like to see the older chars too, of course, but this season is obviously a set up for several years if it works.
I think that's getting in there, as we finally see why CM has been choosen by the military to take over the stargate project and set up a new crew -he's apt-. Next week, i will look at him and see a colonel, so the episode has served its purpose.
and i think the Cam/Sam relation turns out quite good.
Thanks for the update on the next seasons. I'm always interested in finding out what is going on behind the scenes and love it when we get to see all the changes that each episode goes through in it's infancy.
I'm still rooting for Delicious Fat Guy. Glad to see Brad working on it.
Also, Grace Under Pressure was fantastic.
- Kit
Nigel, I completely agree with everything you said and what really bothers me is it looks to me like they are going to shove Daniel over to Atlantis in part of season 10 because somebody has to go because of the addition of Claudia Black. There have been several questions asked to Joe about Daniel and Atlantis and I think he is avoiding them because of the backlash of Sam possibly being shoved over on Atlantis. I will be very upset if any of the original 3 that are left on the show are treated badly. I can except change but not if any of the remaining original team is shoved aside. For me Stargate is Sam,Daniel and Teal'c and that is why I still watch.
For me Stargate is Sam,Daniel and Teal'c and that is why I still watch.
So you must be thrilled they got rid of that pesky Jack, then...?
No, Jack was why I started watching. I'm talking about season 9 and 10. Unfortunately Jack is no longer on the show. Sam,Daniel and Teal'c is all we have left of the original Sg-1 and I don't want to lose them too.
Joe maybe you missed this in the hubbub to answer some of the ruder posts:
Joe - good work with having Carter remain on SG1 and be in all episodes so far. will the co-leader thing be addressed on-screen and shown in S10?
Also, will S10 bring back the pure SG1 and team episodes from earlier seasons?
Thank you very much.
Deanna
Hey Joe,
I have to say that I'm a big fan of Collateral Damage. It was a good story, and developed Cameron pretty well in one episode. And I liked the way the memories were executed - very innovative, and very different for Stargate, right?
The team looked concerned for his welfare, and everyone had their purpose. There were a few things I had issues with, like the alcoholic beverages (Daniel, Sam and Cameron all appeared to be drinking - is that allowed only on diplomatic missions?) and the Captain Kirkage of Cameron took some of the heat off of Shep... ;)
Either way, I do REALLY look forward to the rest of the season now (mainly Ripple Effect). If all episodes could be kinda like Collateral Damage (with a liiiiittle more emphasis on Teal'c and Daniel, or any other duo-combo that arises with each ep), then I think the rest of this season and next season should be great! :)
Oh, and I'm with Oober: Is Cameron's dad not around anymore? Very touching stuff between him and his father.
~tdos
"Oh dear. I don't know how to break it to you, but with my having written three scripts already, and Paul having written one, its very likely that we'll be writing more SG-1's than ever this season. If only you had posted this comment earlier, I wouldn't have gone through the trouble of pitching all those ideas. Well, too late now."
Hahaha. As if anyone could stop you anyway.
I see a lot of people using the "it's a new show" and the "it's another spin off of sg1" line to write off and excuse the lesser quality and poorer characters they've been stomaching like champs so far this year. All it is though is a nice, guilt-free way of complaining about the show.
It's just a euphemism, plain and simple.
I'm just going to join the bandwagon to ask for Jack to be in episode 200. Really, you wouldn't have been able to make it that far without Richard Dean Anderson. And I haven't felt too reassured that Jack is still alive in the Stargate universe. Seems those "oversights" keep growing. How wouldn't Jack's name be mentioned in Fourth Horseman? If the Ori are after the Ancients, shouldn't people who have the ancient gene and are classified in such a manner be alerted? Sam or Daniel could've had a phone conversation with Jack (even without RDA's voice of course). If Jack is the head of Homeworld Security, shouldn't he be in on all those calls that Landry has to make? I know that you're moving on and away from Jack O'Neill, but a tiny bone thrown to us every 3rd episode wouldn't hurt.
M
While I would never say it so rudely, I have to agree with the poster who doesn't fully appreciate M&M scripts. What I've learned to expect from them is too much time developing guest characters we'll never see again, too much exposition in a futile effort to explain away potential plot holes, too many scenes with no emotional impact, too much manipulation of the characters in service to the plot, too little tension regarding the fate of our heroes. I think the original ideas are great but something is lost on the way to the screen. I don't understand how this happens, honestly. But I'm ever hopeful for S10, anyway :)
Joe,
as far as I remember you said somewhere that it is SG-1 episode in which Daniel finally makes it to Atlantis in season 10, right?
Hello Joe:
Can you tell us if Colonel Carter will continue to be a major character in S10 like you said Vala would be? From what you said it sounds like at least 11 episodes are written or at least sketched out (broken?) and you shoud have an idea of what is going on with the group, including Sam Carter and what type of role she will have on SG1. Will it be substantive and contributory, will she have a reason to be there (I found it disturbing how in the 4HM2 and CD she was basically a glorifed baby-sitter (as so many others have pointed out) who leaned on walls, doorjams, technical equipment and stairs but did not contribute anything susbtantive at all to the team or to the show (in CD the same was true of Daniel and Teal'c but at least at other times during this season they have contributed substantively to the story and the team - Sam Carter has yet to be treated that same way and here's hoping that changes with RE this week and then beyond through the remainder of S9 considering her import and contribution and history with the show and the team).
Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply.
Suzanne Pettis (SG1TeamFan)
At this point, I'll take any focus on the part of the producers towards the original characters. Daniel, Teal'c, and Carter have been largely ignored this season by every single person involved with production. Mitchell has been pushed and pushed and pushed constantly. We get the "We love Vala" line at every opportunity; the unspoken statement of course being that the other characters are no longer that fetching to write for. The vast overwhelming majority of fans are watching for either Carter, Teal'c, Daniel, or, God forbid, the team. Jack O'neill has up and vanished from the Stargate universe faster than Corin Nemic. How's that for gratitude? And the ever-droning company line of Fargate has long since lost any meaning.
I don't know why it's so hard to grasp the concept that fans are watching the show for the same reasons they have been for the last eight years. Perhaps some of those longtime characters and elements of the story were worthy of respect after all.
Linus
In Canada here, and spent the extra cash to get TMN to see SGA and Rome. Have to say I love this second part of the SGA season even more than I thought I would. Question, though, about the nameless Canuck tech - are you ever gonna get someone to name him?
I'm holding out for Mike, myself. (as in Mike. From Canmore.)
We have friends in Buffalo, so hope to see the most recent SG1 soon. I'm looking forward to that!
Daniel goes to Atlantis in episode 3 of SG1 but Joe never said if he comes back. The next episode we hear anything about Daniel is Counter Strike - episode 7. Episodes 4 and 5 of Atlantis are a 2-parter where a new enemy is introduced. Dark Daniel and new enemy - can you see where I am going with this? Joe said that Daniel would be a member of SG1 in season 10 but he also said that there would be a very controversial
story arc for Daniel and he would be darker. I want team episodes which includes all of the team - Cam,Sam,Daniel and Teal'c and Jack when we can have him.
"I don't know why it's so hard to grasp the concept that fans are watching the show for the same reasons they have been for the last eight years. Perhaps some of those longtime characters and elements of the story were worthy of respect after all."
Amen to that.
ANONYMOUS SAID ------- "I don't know why it's so hard to grasp the concept that fans are watching the show for the same reasons they have been for the last eight years. Perhaps some of those longtime characters and elements of the story were worthy of respect after all."
Amen to that."
and a double, double AMEN to that!!!! Please!!!!
"with a bit of luck, if A. tapping didn't look that annoyed at BB on screen and if they were looking at each others, cam mitchell could probably shag sam before the end of the season..."
I am going to be sooooo seriously irked if they start a Sam/Cam thing now. Haven´t we suffered enough - the whole replicarter thing, the fullstop that never came after 8 seasons of Sam/Jack UST and now the Daniel/Vala fiasco etc.
Lets just get back to basics. Finish the Sam/Jack thing and lets get some more team focussed eps.
And btw, in no military structure that I know of will you have a situation where leadership is sort of up in the air as is the case with Cam/Sam/SG1.
anonymous @ 1:17 said:
While I would never say it so rudely, I have to agree with the poster who doesn't fully appreciate M&M scripts. What I've learned to expect from them is too much time developing guest characters... [and] too much manipulation of the characters in service to the plot.
And Suzanne P said:
Can you tell us ... and what type of role [Col Carter] will have on SG1. Will it be substantive and contributory, will she have a reason to be there (I found it disturbing how in the 4HM2 and CD she was basically a glorifed baby-sitter (as so many others have pointed out) who leaned on walls, doorjams, technical equipment and stairs but did not contribute anything susbtantive at all to the team or to the show.
Ditto!
-DEM
My concern is if they are already wallpapering Daniel and Sam now where they have nothing to contribute to an episode what will it be like in season 10 with a new full time cast member. Sam and Daniel have so much to contribute when allowed. They are supposed to be the science twins.
I guess that, for once, that's left very much open to interpretation of the viewer, which is actually very cool. well done guys.
For once? You mean for always! Open to interpretation writing is polluting the show!
"You will never have the “old team” back. The “New team” has to win viewer loyalty and it can't do that the way it is configured."
You're correct on that. It's bad enough how much I miss Jack but to see Carter so badly disrespected by shoving her back to 2IC just so the newest character can have something to do... How can I or anyone grab hold of this new team if all we feel is resentment towards the new character?
Good to see have you back...
Glad to hear that Carl Binder and Martin Gero are working on some great ideas.
"Another two episodes come compliments of Carl Binder, a couple of very well-written, very tight scripts (typical of Carl, that show-off) in which we are introduced to a brand new villain who's handywork we have already come across."
Only two... hope not... ;)
Glad to hear that they're tight.. and looking forward to finding out more about the new villains.
Regards
E.Lily
For once? You mean for always! Open to interpretation writing is polluting the show!
it's actually a quality for sci fi stories, you know ?
Well, I hate to break it to you, but not everyone feels 'resentment' towards the new characters. I know it must be hard to grasp that you and your opinions are not the center of the universe, but, please, try.
Get counselling if you have to.
Anonymous said:
Well, I hate to break it to you, but not everyone feels 'resentment' towards the new characters. I know it must be hard to grasp that you and your opinions are not the center of the universe, but, please, try.
Get counselling if you have to.
You know what? Nobody, not one poster so far, has come on and pretended to speak for everyone. At best, they've come on and the phrases "many" or "a lot" of fans while writing their posts. This drivel you posted is the same damn weak attack methods used by virulent, no-other-opinions-tolerated pro-everything Stargate fanboys and fangirls. If you're so nervous about many people voicing their opinions about the shows, then perhaps online fandom and other arenas of free discussion aren't for you. Perhaps you should seek help yourself.
Allison
Will some one please pay for Amanda Tapping to have acting leasons?
I've just read 80-plus posts and am staggered by the frequently rude, patronizing and/or condescending quality of many of them. If I were Joe, I wouldn't bother putting up with it, but he has a thicker hide than most people and deflects many of the snottiest comments with good humor.
You know what? Nobody, not one poster so far, has come on and pretended to speak for everyone.
Alli-baby, perhaps you should have your eyes checked, given the extreme number of posts I've seen claiming just that.
But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised your comprehension level is a little low, given the poisoning effect of the "Everything's not the same, waa, waaa" fandom you represent.
Oooh Joe,
Another friend has seen Noises Off on my recommendation and they thoroughly enjoyed it!
MB
Anonymous said...
I've just read 80-plus posts and am staggered by the frequently rude, patronizing and/or condescending quality of many of them. If I were Joe, I wouldn't bother putting up with it, but he has a thicker hide than most people and deflects many of the snottiest comments with good humor."
In case you, and others who come on here to pontificate, didn't notice two of the few posts Joe cared to reply to thus far ARE the snotty rude ones and he chooses to respond in kind - perhaps if he did not egg on those people they would die away. Joe is as much the problem as those that put up rude posts because he gives them attention and credence by addressing them.
Gerry
Anonymous said...
You know what? Nobody, not one poster so far, has come on and pretended to speak for everyone.
Alli-baby, perhaps you should have your eyes checked, given the extreme number of posts I've seen claiming just that.
But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised your comprehension level is a little low, given the poisoning effect of the "Everything's not the same, waa, waaa" fandom you represent.
"
Once again some of the snottiest comments go under the anonymous/coward tag - "waa-waa" sounds like your post Mr/Ms Anonymous - you sound like you are from the Sony Forum your post is so immature and petulant - go back there and have your good cry and if you are not from there you should go there - your petulance and immaturity will be appreciated there.
Susan Timlan
Anonymous Coward said...
Will some one please pay for Amanda Tapping to have acting leasons?
and the same Anonymous Coward or one similar said...
But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised your comprehension level is a little low, given the poisoning effect of the "Everything's not the same, waa, waaa" fandom you represent.
I said...
Yup, fans say that they don't like the new characters, so you attack the longtime actors. Real classy. I'm so glad all Browder and Black fans have joined up. Bottom of the barrel doesn't even begin to describe you.
Hey, frankly, if I was Joe, and I got the amount of snotty, rude posts he got, I'd feel mighty tempted to twist thier tails too. I mean, it's so easy, and it's gotta be amusing to watch 'em scurry around like angry ants...
heh. The person posting under the anonyus tag whines about people posting under anonymous tags. Gotta love it...
And, yeah, just 'signing' your name? Not really meaning much. To wit -
Abraham Lincoln
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I've just read 80-plus posts and am staggered by the frequently rude, patronizing and/or condescending quality of many of them. If I were Joe, I wouldn't bother putting up with it, but he has a thicker hide than most people and deflects many of the snottiest comments with good humor."
In case you, and others who come on here to pontificate, didn't notice two of the few posts Joe cared to reply to thus far ARE the snotty rude ones and he chooses to respond in kind - perhaps if he did not egg on those people they would die away.
Um, just exactly how was I rude? If rude means anyone who does not like Joes work than I guess I am very rude.
I do not brown nose like a great many seem to do just because he is a writer for a tv show. He is not greater or less than anyone else.
Now Joe, I know just by my asking you to leave the show that you would not do such a thing. I am pushing you to think outside the box. Your episodes are mondane! I am sorry if you do not like to hear it but they are. There is nothing exciting about them. They are just ok. You can do better than OK! Think outside the box Joe. PLEASE! Or else the shows, the ones M&M write will be boring or just ok. Is it so much to ask from you Joe? Come on! Can you not take the negative critizism as well as the good?
Anonymous said...
I've just read 80-plus posts and am staggered by the frequently rude, patronizing and/or condescending quality of many of them. If I were Joe, I wouldn't bother putting up with it, but he has a thicker hide than most people and deflects many of the snottiest comments with good humor."
In case you, and others who come on here to pontificate, didn't notice two of the few posts Joe cared to reply to thus far ARE the snotty rude ones and he chooses to respond in kind - perhaps if he did not egg on those people they would die away.
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Um, just exactly how was I rude? If rude means anyone who does not like Joes work than I guess I am very rude.
I do not brown nose like a great many seem to do just because he is a writer for a tv show. He is not greater or less than anyone else.
Now Joe, I know just by my asking you to leave the show that you would not do such a thing. I am pushing you to think outside the box. Your episodes are mondane! I am sorry if you do not like to hear it but they are. There is nothing exciting about them. They are just ok. You can do better than OK! Think outside the box Joe. PLEASE! Or else the shows, the ones M&M write will be boring or just ok. Is it so much to ask from you Joe? Come on! Can you not take the negative critizism as well as the good?
Auntie em wrote:
"Your episodes are mondane! I am sorry if you do not like to hear it but they are."
To Auntie em:
Joe's writing can not be mondane...I believe the word you are searching for is mundane, with a U. You used that word twice, in your original post and the follow up, so I made the leap that it was not just a typo. Just because you make up a word doesn't make it real. As just having an opinion, which you are entitled to, doesn't make it a fact. When you write with such an air of superiority you should proof read. Sorry for the critizism. Oh wait, you spelled that incorrectly as well (criticism).
Oh geeeze thanks Chris U. However, how does attacking my spelling change anything other than make you look pettie and small? Did I spell everything correctly for you?
no you didn't ..it's petty. Does that mean you can not accept criticism as you ask Joe to?
Abe -- you are pathetic.
Susan
That's Timlin, Abe, incase you couldn't make that leap. Maybe you and others do not know me but at least I have the courage to use my own name not a fake one and not the cowardly anonymous one which seems to empower people to be snotty (same as with those that choose to use made up names - the more anonymous someone is the snottier, and more pathetic, they get).
Because you claim to be using a real name, you're couragous? lol
at least I'm not a coward.
ST
Wheee, look at all the pretty insults!
Joe,
Thanks for the "In the Making" updates - I'm glad you put the cut scenes/bits in, find that quite interesting. And love the rest of the info, as I've always been into the creative process. Good stuff.
Good for you Allison, I agree. BTW to those who attack the fans that have criticisms, understand this, there are plenty of people out here who dislike the new characters or who think the new characters have been badly introduced and who think the other 3 lead characters have been diminished and/or disrespected to the detriment of the show so you need to get over it, accept it, move on or seek professional help if you are so concerned about the growing numbers of people who are expressing their dislike of the show and the new charaters, enemy, direction, etc.
There is a lot to dislike and/or be critical of these days and there are plenty of people talking about the same concerns. Be aware not everyone, not even people who have watched for years, will love, or even like, Stargate SG1 for the sake of liking it no matter what drivel they produce and your opinion to like it or even love it is not at the center of the universe. Get used to it, especially if the show and characters continue down this path.
Gerry (missingtherealSG1)
"But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised your comprehension level is a little low, given the poisoning effect of the "Everything's not the same, waa, waaa" fandom you represent."
That's funny coming from someone representing the "People are criticizing my show so I have to lash out at anything in sight" fandom. Some fans really need to develop a thicker skin and get a grip.
Joe Mallozzi SAID:Oh dear. I don't know how to break it to you, but with my having written three scripts already, and Paul having written one, its very likely that we'll be writing more SG-1's than ever this season."
OMG, I don't believe my stomach has turned sour that fast in a long time!! (After reading through this Blog and seeing what Joe responds to, as mentioned earlier on, I figure if I'm rude enough Joe will skip all the nicey-nice posts with questions and just come out to snark with me.)
Jillian Stewart (ooh is that my real name? I checked my Drivers License just before this and that's what it said so that's what I'm stickin with.)
Hey Mr. Mallozzi !
Two things, Please consider letting me know, before hand, your (American) Football picks ! I promise we can split the winnings down the middle (60/40) !! :>D
With the changes you folks have made this year, and the way the scripts have changed, I get this feeling that you guys are NOT "aiming" at surpassing the longevity of the X-files, but have your sights fixed on surpassing "Gunsmoke" !!!!!!
Thanks tor EVERYTHNG !!!
==
Will some one please pay for Amanda Tapping to have acting leasons?
I'll chip in five bucks. Anyone want to try a cake sale? A car wash?
Yup, fans say that they don't like the new characters, so you attack the longtime actors. Real classy. I'm so glad all Browder and Black fans have joined up. Bottom of the barrel doesn't even begin to describe you.
Sorry to spoil your little theory but I've been around since season one and never saw Farscape at all but I still wish AT would take an acting class or two to eliminate all that horrible face pulling and compulsive gulping she has adopted in lieu of actual emotion. I though with RDA gone and Beau Bridges doing most of his scenes with Lexa Doig or Gary Jones we might be spared it but it seems Ben is going to be it's new, lucky recipient. Run, Mitchell! Run like the wind! Indigestion awaits!
Henry
Can we get a discount if we sign Shanks up too? He really needs to get rid of his squinty look of confusion.
**Anonymous said...
Can we get a discount if we sign Shanks up too? He really needs to get rid of his squinty look of confusion.**
LOL. I know...I see him doing that *so* often. I try, really try to understand how his fans think he is the best actor on TV today and it just eludes me. To each his own, I guess. But I'd say yeah, none of the actors are what I would consider great actors...if they were, they wouldn't be on Stargate after 9 years. (And, please spare me the comments about MS being one of the great, as of yet, undiscovered actors....)
Misa
**Anonymous said...
Can we get a discount if we sign Shanks up too? He really needs to get rid of his squinty look of confusion.**
LOL. I know...I see him doing that *so* often. I try, really try to understand how his fans think he is the best actor on TV today and it just eludes me. To each his own, I guess. But I'd say yeah, none of the actors are what I would consider great actors...if they were, they wouldn't be on Stargate after 9 years. (And, please spare me the comments about MS being one of the great, as of yet, undiscovered actors, how his being in Canada holds him back, etc.)
Misa
**Anonymous said...
Can we get a discount if we sign Shanks up too? He really needs to get rid of his squinty look of confusion.**
LOL. I know...I see him doing that *so* often. I try, really try to understand how his fans think he is the best actor on TV today and it just eludes me. To each his own, I guess. But I'd say yeah, none of the actors are what I would consider great actors...if they were, they wouldn't be on Stargate after 9 years. (And, please spare me the comments about MS being one of the great, as of yet, undiscovered actors, how his being in Canada holds him back, etc.)
Misa
Yeah I'll chip in for the lessons for Shanks (maybe he and Lexa can get a 2 for 1 sale).
Geesh.