
Ming-Na (Camille Wray)
Beware of minor SPOILERS for the upcoming episode “Life” in the report below.
The third Stargate series will go where Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis didn’t: It will have gay characters. Stargate Universe series creators Robert C. Cooper and Brad Wright told fans during their stage panel at Creation Entertainment’s official Vancouver Stargate convention earlier this month.
“There are at least one and potentially more gay characters on Universe,” Cooper said in answer to a fan’s question.
Wright added, “There’s actually two.”
One of those characters is Camille Wray, the I.O.A. representative on board the Destiny, new casting documents reveal. The character is played by actress Ming-Na.
In the show’s seventh episode, “Life,” viewers will meet Wray’s long-time partner back on Earth, Sharon. The character is listed as a lead guest, and possibly recurring. Camille uses the Destiny’s long-range communications device to return home to Sharon for a brief respite.
Stargate Atlantis did have a few gay characters itself, at least in the minds of the producers — though it never made it onto the screen. Executive producer Joseph Mallozzi has stated that character of Alicia Vega was written to be a lesbian (story). But after her introduction in the Season Five premiere, she was quickly killed off in just her second appearance (“Whispers”).
Mallozzi also said that there was another character on Atlantis he always thought was gay, though the right time (read: not forced) to reveal it on screen never materialized.
The decision to include gay characters on Universe was born from the desire to focus the show on its characters and their relationships with one another.
“This goes towards our goal to make the characters on Universe as complex and complicated and realistic and identifiable as we can, to as many people as we can,” Cooper said. “And that’s not just a desire for ratings. That’s the desire to portray humanity, and make a show that is saying something about who we are.”
Stargate Universe premieres this fall on SCI FI Channel in the U.S., Sky1 in the U.K. and SPACE in Canada! Keep your browser locked on GateWorld’s own SGU Launch Center for more in the weeks ahead.
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@Redlotus Fine, dropped.
@flmatthew I’ve only seen Torchwood season 1 and a little bit of season 2, but I do remember Jack kissing multiple men thought the series. Is showing a character that makes out with whoever “handling gay just fine”? Don’t get me wrong though I hate seeing straight males being portrayed that way too *glares at Captain Kirk*
Vyse99 | April 22 @ 8:36 pmWell you know what, we don’t need that crap on TV to start with, it’s just so wrong. I was so Looking forward to SGU, but now it is boycotted from my TV. GAY, LESBIAN, don’t belong on tv. It’s bad enough it’s in the WORLD, we don’t need young kids who watch this show see this crap and think it is right, what a real fast way to wrp a creative mind!! As said by some one else, the parts fit with a man and a women, not two of the same sex. When it showed up on BSG, I puked!! To me this is a big ownfall in the SGU show and franchise, why couldn’t they have left it alone, as it should be a wholesome family show where kids and parents could watch together. I hope Brad and Rob and teh SGU team will reconsider will reconsider.
sgc467 | April 22 @ 9:37 pm@sgc467, Wow, that’s a really hateful statement to be making.
redlotus | April 23 @ 2:33 amI’m tired and bored of the need to introduce gay characters to keep it real, that’s just nonsense, they wanted a charge and they got one, so,it is up to us to watch it or not, I think I’m out. I’ll get the movie dvd’s but that’s it.
Coremae | April 23 @ 3:52 amSorry I think this is just a joke TPTB have gotten what they wanted intrested in the show yet more spin.
If I was gonna watch SGU, I couldnt care less one way or the other re: gay charators. It should be about the show, the writing, the actors, effects etc.. NOT who is straight or gay or who is sleeping with who. Everyone is up in arms on both sides of the argument BUT nobody cares that there is a suicide or loads of deaths going to be shown.Thanks but no thanks I’d rather have light & fluffy vs dark, edgy, realistic and down right depressing anytime!!!! Stargate used to be about Science Fiction and escapesim for the god awlful world we currently live. RIP Stargate
Yes Torchwood has Cpt Jack (John Barrowman is great)and sometimes the sexulity plot line works and sometimes it doesnt but it usely connected to the PLOT!!!!!
As a SGA/SG1 I wont be watching SGU because the cancelled SGA for this “crap” and treated SGA fans as worthless oh an Im not the require dempographic being 44.For those who want SGU great you wanted a change well I guess you guys got it!!!!!! For me a 1000s other we stuffed, so stop bitching you at least have your bloody new show!!!!
Chucknician | April 23 @ 5:33 amI was going to watch SGU but now I don’t have to bother. Thank you. I will just watch my SG-1 and Atlantis DVD’s.
stargatesg-1 | April 23 @ 8:54 amsgc467, your bigotted post is the exact reason why we need gay characters on tv.
tetrion | April 23 @ 9:50 am@tetrion, So the bottom line is, we the heterosexual (or breeders as some of my gay friends like to refer to us) the larger demographic, needs the sensitivity training, and SGU is going to be that instructional TV series? Forget SciFi, let’s show the world that this is an acceptable life style as well.
Alcohol and smoking ads were pulled out of TV and even movie theatres for a reason. Because they do de-sensitize the viewer and makes it “okay” or acceptable to go down that path. SciFi should stay Scifi, and one of the aspects were not having to explain to a younger audience that two women or two guys making out is okay or not okay.
US06154 | April 23 @ 11:09 amcome on its a tv-show…if they want to have gay/lesbian people in there so be it, it doesnt change my mind about the show, now i know more info about one of the characters on the show.
oh and @sgc467: about the whole ‘family show’ thing you said your more worry about kids picking up on gays and lesbians, then you are about violence cause of the gun shooting, clearly, there more violent stuff but i dont want to list them all. and drugs, even though it was shown a few, Tretonin. ok well the drugs bit might not be really worth mentioning but those are what i thought most people would be worry about when their kids watch a ‘family show’.
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Darren Sumner | April 23 @ 11:58 amLet me clear something up then I guess, I’m still going to give SGU a try even though my expectations aren’t very high.
Vyse99 | April 23 @ 12:04 pmMy reaction to this headline resulted in me having to face a challenge made to me recently by several of my friends that are of the same faith as I am. Most of my friends no longer watch most tv shows on the broadcast networks because they are so opposed to the lifestyle we live (or try to live). I had a friend move back to town and had lent one of my Directv Tivos for a few days awaiting their own being installed. When I got it back, I noticed the various programs they had subscribed to or watched and found NOTHING from any broadcast network and only older series that were most friendly to our lifestyle. I ask them about why and their challenge made me examine my own viewing habits. Science Fiction has for the most part retained this morally neutral story line and has not been much of a challenge for me to continue to watch, but with this ANNOUNCEMENT I do feel challenged to choose.
Maybe a person of genuine faith should be added as a character(or exposed from an existing character) to this story to attract millions of viewers that would be able to identify with the FEELINGS this new minority might have to the uncertain life that this new program is very likely to have to deal with, I have read a few articles that indicate survival will be the primary challenge of the characters in the beginning of the series.
save Scifi | April 23 @ 12:44 pmReally, this is rediculous. Not the show but the reactions to this announcement. Apparantly people are using any excuse to not like this show.
Cpt.Handel | April 23 @ 12:54 pmI do hope that the character’s relationship is treated the same as any other which I am sure is what will happen. That’s one of the things I liked about Torchwood was Jack’s open but not overdone personality. I also understand that the large conservative/ Christian community, who happens to be a large portion of SG-1 and SgA’s following will be upset but really, that’s their problem. Sci-Fi isn’t about paying homage to popular demand but portraying the possibilities of our world. An openly gay, recurring character is a good step forward but we should also remember that she won’t be a main character. And as far as the show’s relational focus goes, the writer’s have been open about this fact from the beginning. Those that don’t like this idea should remember that we’ve been aware of this since the show first came onto fandom radar.
I do realize that my comment about Capt. Jack isn’t exactly true. He’s pretty much as over-the-top as one can get but that’s him. A better example might be in Doctor Who. In many episodes there have been subtle hints, nothing overdone, about different side character’s secual preferences which is great since we live in a world where homosexuality has become a part of society. It’s perfectly alright to disagree with the life-style but to close oneself off and become completely intolerant seems backward.
Cpt.Handel | April 23 @ 1:00 pm@Vyse99 good man, I think I will do the same.
The lower your expectations the better right?
I had high expectations for SGA and thought it would be better than SGA, I was disappointed.
I know this is slightly off topic but if you think something is going to be crap you can’t lose.
If it does turn out to be rubbush – you are happy you were right.
If it turns out to be ok – you are happy because it was better than you tough.
If it turns out to be good – you have an amazing show to watch.
I don’t think the inclusion of gays will make SGU any better or worse and I’m sure it will be a high quality well made show, but the clips soo far make me think it won’t be my cup of tea.
Well done Darren Sumner for trying to keep this thread on topic and also respecting everyones views and noting taking a side (something I’ve been trying to do).
kzap333 | April 23 @ 1:09 pmOh, I see if you don’t like gays/lesbians they edit the hell out of your response! I will keep posting replies especially they keep chopping my remarks. Hating the idea of gays/lesbians is a point of view on SGU because it is common point of view in the real world too! Not eveyone thinks being that is cool. Being that way is just someone reaching out for attention… “Hay look at me I’m Gay! well I say who cares! Bah-bug! I suppose this reply will get chopped too. SO I hope SGU gets the same!
stargatesg-1 | April 23 @ 1:39 pm@Kzap333 Exactly! If it turns out that I enjoy it I’ll be very happy, I’ll for sure at least watch the 2 hour premiere but if that doesn’t click with me then that’s that, I guess I’ll only have the occasional movie to look forward to from the Stargate franchise.
@Cpt.Handel Any excuse not to like SGU? Why does someone have to inherently like a show in this first place? Many fans are upset and rightfully so that they canceled Atlantis to make a relationship drama set in the Stargate universe(again no pun). The truth is I wanted to be excited about this show, I’m a huge Stargate fan, have been so since the movie came out in theaters, but the more I’ve learned about it the less interested in it I become.
However I will agree with you that Jack’s homosexuality was shown better in Doctor Who, yes it was very clear he was bisexual, but it was never brought to the point where it was over the top like in Torchwood
Vyse99 | April 23 @ 3:33 pmThis news saddens me immensely. My father and I are avid SGA fans and when I heard about SGU I was very excited. But now to hear this, I’m upset and disappointed. I know several different people who will be extremely saddened by this news as well and it will cause myself and them not to watch the show. The reason why I loved Stargate (particularly Atlantis) was because it was a exciting and thrilling show but also clean and safe. There was no relationship and love mumbo jumbo like every other show on TV today. But I’m afraid that’s come to an end. I also agree with you, bentdog, I think your post was very well stated. I will always love and support SG1 and SGA but I’m afraid I won’t be able to watch SGU because of this.
cherryblossom189 | April 23 @ 4:41 pmI dont understand why shows these days have to include this kind of crap. We got to like sg1 and sga due to them being fun and exciting. Keep it simple; the producers are only alienating fans by doing this. Surely sgu can continue in the footsteps of sg1 and sga without this politically correct bull.
D4NM31ST3R | April 23 @ 4:43 pmI just love that its perfectly fine to cover up pictures of Jesus so you homosexuals who aren’t religious aren’t offended, but when those of us who might be offended by seeing gays/lesbians on TV decide not to watch a show that’s apparently not fine.
Browncoat1984 | April 23 @ 4:52 pmAmen, Browncoat1984! What is this world coming to? Honestly?
cherryblossom189 | April 23 @ 4:59 pmI think SG:U is going to be good, and personally I’m really looking forward to it. I loved SG1, I loved SGA – so far the writers and producers have proven that they are capable of making fun, entertaining shows and I think this format has a lot of potential.
SG:U has some great writers contributing, some really talented actors/actresses involved (including Ming-Na!), and what looks to be great special effects. I’m really dismayed that so many people here are apparently willing to overlook all of that because of one aspect of one minor character, or because they have jumped to conclusions about the format.
What do you really have to lose by just giving it a chance?
redlotus | April 23 @ 5:18 pmThank you both MangoG and gatetrek; sci-fi for me is about being open-minded to new ideas and showing acceptance for things we don’t understand. I hope though that SGU at least show gay men in the show; that will definitely be a strong focal point.
Daedalus304 | April 23 @ 6:23 pmRedlotus, when a tv series/franchise you love and have supported suddenly supports a cause that you are avidly against and that goes against your core values, then you’ll understand why we’re not going to watch the show.
Its not about not giving SGU a chance, I was perfectly willing to give SGU a chance until this, its about standing up for what you believe and telling Hollywood enough is enough, we’re no longer going to support this.
Browncoat1984 | April 23 @ 6:52 pmGAY PRIDE UNIVERSE-WIDE!
I hope this is only a sick progressive joke.
dash | April 23 @ 7:16 pm