
Ming-Na (Camille Wray)
Beware of minor SPOILERS for the upcoming episode “Life” in the report below.
The third Stargate series will go where Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis didn’t: It will have gay characters. Stargate Universe series creators Robert C. Cooper and Brad Wright told fans during their stage panel at Creation Entertainment’s official Vancouver Stargate convention earlier this month.
“There are at least one and potentially more gay characters on Universe,” Cooper said in answer to a fan’s question.
Wright added, “There’s actually two.”
One of those characters is Camille Wray, the I.O.A. representative on board the Destiny, new casting documents reveal. The character is played by actress Ming-Na.
In the show’s seventh episode, “Life,” viewers will meet Wray’s long-time partner back on Earth, Sharon. The character is listed as a lead guest, and possibly recurring. Camille uses the Destiny’s long-range communications device to return home to Sharon for a brief respite.
Stargate Atlantis did have a few gay characters itself, at least in the minds of the producers — though it never made it onto the screen. Executive producer Joseph Mallozzi has stated that character of Alicia Vega was written to be a lesbian (story). But after her introduction in the Season Five premiere, she was quickly killed off in just her second appearance (“Whispers”).
Mallozzi also said that there was another character on Atlantis he always thought was gay, though the right time (read: not forced) to reveal it on screen never materialized.
The decision to include gay characters on Universe was born from the desire to focus the show on its characters and their relationships with one another.
“This goes towards our goal to make the characters on Universe as complex and complicated and realistic and identifiable as we can, to as many people as we can,” Cooper said. “And that’s not just a desire for ratings. That’s the desire to portray humanity, and make a show that is saying something about who we are.”
Stargate Universe premieres this fall on SCI FI Channel in the U.S., Sky1 in the U.K. and SPACE in Canada! Keep your browser locked on GateWorld’s own SGU Launch Center for more in the weeks ahead.
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Bentdog – I hate to break the news to you buddy but the sole purpose of sex is not to have babies. Yes it certainly helps but it is not the sole purpose. If you need any advice on what sex is really about I could give you some pointers but I’m sure you think you already know everything. What an ignorant thing to say.
ChelleDB | April 20 @ 6:41 amcitac – homosexuality has nothing to do with pornography. If you haven’t figured out that by now then I suggest you research a little more before making such silly statements.
I’m surprised at the ignorance of some people here…I shouldn’t be but I am. How sad.
My sister and I are laughing our arses off over some of these comments!
“I don’t hate gays, just their practice and way of life.”
“If you want lesbians they have plenty of websites that you can go to”
“if i wanted to watch lesbians i would watch porn simple”
“What it the sole purpose of sex? To have a baby”
We are laughing because we feel sorry for you guys. It’s sad that some people just don’t get that gay doesn’t just = sex. Our favourite comment of course is “they’ll just turn it into an excuse to have gay sex.” Haha, those sneaky PTB! Of course!
One of the great things about gay relationships (done well) in popular media is that it starts to show diversity, which exists in this world like it or not. Try going into this with an open mind- you might just learn something. If it’s just gay doesn’t just = sex, that’s a start.
NZNeep | April 20 @ 7:12 amSorry I should have said primary, not sole. I know emotions/feelings are part of sex too, I am talking pure science, no morals, not emotions, not feelings.
If you want to bring emotions/feelings in we can. The reason sex feels so good physically and emotionality is so that we will want it, if sex did not feel so good a lot of us might not be here today.
bentdog | April 20 @ 7:15 amLike Joe Mallozzi said on his blog today, this show is on the same network as the last two shows. They will still be following the same guidelines when it comes to profanity, sex, violence… In SG-1 even in bed scenes (Sam and Pete, Jack and Kerry) they were almost chaste… they had clothes on in bed! Did we even have a bedroom scene on Atlantis?
The show has never been about sex before, why would that suddenly change just because one of the characters happens to be gay? It’s part of the character, it won’t (or shouldn’t) define her.
NZNeep | April 20 @ 7:21 amBentdog – I understand what you’re are saying and I think it is partly true for some people. But now we’re talking about sex and not the issues of a gay relationship on SGU. The fact is as you pnted out is that sex is a feel good thing…that’s bnot exclusive to those who want to procreate. And homosexuality isn’t something you go out and try like a new pair of boots. It’s the way they are. Exactly like the way you are or I am. We are who we are and I accept that it’s not something that everyone likes but I think our comments have to be a little more tolerable and less offensive. And before I get shot down for saying that…that means everyone…not just those who are intimidated by the idea of homosexuality on our screens but those who also support it.
ChelleDB | April 20 @ 7:31 amNeep – you’re right. Gay relationships do show the diversity which exists in the real world. Ignoring it will not make it go away.
And just to clarify on emotions here…I’m actually quite calm. No agro coming from me. Simple statements made in the hope to curb the hostility and ignorance shown.
…not just those who are intimidated by the idea of homosexuality…
Just because a person does not agree with something doesn’t make them intimidated.
Personally, I wish they would have just left it alone. Why does everything in our society have to be controversial? I like watching a show without having to consider the “real world”. It is an escape from reality for a few minutes. Life issues and problems will be here when the show is over. Let have my few minutes vacation please.
mspagasi | April 20 @ 8:40 amTerrible decision! I am not nearly as excited about it now.
redfox000 | April 20 @ 8:48 amOh please. I just want action and mystery and technology, no sex. At all. Please? So far I’ve actually been full behind Universe but this caused me to waver, simply because it will very very easily lead itself to 90210.
Caladria | April 20 @ 8:51 amGranted…I should have perhaps used the word “opposed” other than “intimidation”.But please don’t forget I said on our screens not just homosexuality in general. When you snipped that out of my quote, you took it out of context. Perhaps not deliberately but it certainly wasn’t the same as when I quoted it.
ChelleDB | April 20 @ 8:55 amI still have yet to hear why this is so offensive. Why is it that people feel that by ignoring it or banishing it from our screens that it makes it go away and helps us escape from real life?? It is a part of real life as is a heterosexual relationship. And I don’t hear anyone complaining so loudly about that kind of relationship. Why???
While I am happy that people like me are going to be represented in the new Stargate series, I am really disapointed that it is going to be lesbians instead of men. It would be nice to have a character that I can personally identify with on this show.
To all you homophobes out there… tough luck! We are everywhere, involved in everything and always have been and always will be around, whether you like it or not. You have no idea how many gay people you encounter every day of your life simply because it isn’t always obvious that someone is gay. The only “Agenda” gay people have is to be accepted as part of society. And the idea that it is somehow a choice is completely untrue and makes you look uninformed when you say that it is a choice.
gayman | April 20 @ 8:56 amStargate franchise are fine without the gay characters. When did it came mandatory to have gay characters? It’s stargate not the L word or Queer as Folk. There are better things to do than making the character gay.
elitenova | April 20 @ 9:09 amI’m a little apprehensive as to how this will be done but all in all I’m quite looking forward to it. It’s about time that we saw something other than societal norms on our television shows.
halfbloodme | April 20 @ 9:28 amOMG, let’s really mix it up, and get people talking about this show. Let’s get some animals (wink, wink) involved too, and let the show go “where no one in their right minds had gone before – Sorry Gene Roddenberry). Let’s sensationalize the heck out of the show. Oh Stargate, my alltime favorite Scifi show, I shed a tear for you.
US06154 | April 20 @ 10:02 amWhen David Blue will appear in episode as drunk Drag Queen, I’ll totally stop watching SGU and done with the TPTB production – professionally.
universacred | April 20 @ 10:16 amI just have to give kudos to Browncoat1984, the one single person posting here that seems to have a handle on his/her brain.
Kameryn | April 20 @ 10:32 amWhy does there have to be a gay character on each and every show these days? I mean c’mon! It’s political correctness gone overboard. I know plenty of homosexuals in real life, but nowadays TV would have you believe 1/3 of the world is gay and that another 1/3 aren’t sure what they are.
Plus, highlighting a character’s sexuality continues to make it an issue. It shouldn’t be an issue. You don’t have writers/producers/journalists going “and this character will be straight!” as if it’s a big deal, do you?
This inclusion of a homosexual in every show, with a fanfare accompanying each ‘outing’ is going to prove damaging to gay rights in the future.
sueKay | April 20 @ 10:40 amIt’s pretty dispiriting to see that so many Stargate fans are horrible bigots. Nice going guys, you’re making us all look so good.
Tremolo | April 20 @ 10:41 amYes its offical stargate gone to hades! Hey at least one of um gets killed quick. Now I got 2 reasons to hate this show, can I get 3. I will always see it as wrong no matter what anyone thinks,or that I’m freakin narrow. It only shows that the world has finally gone insane!!!!!
jakebolt | April 20 @ 10:42 amWell, I was looking forward to it. If a character is gay that’s fine. But like every other time a TV show adds a gay character we’ll get hit on over the head that the fact that their gay. To be honest I don’t give a crap of anyone’s sexuality on a tv show. I just want to be entertained. I loved SG-1. I liked Atlantis. But I don’t think that Universe will be my cup of tea. At least there’s the movies for me.
doktorijones | April 20 @ 10:44 amSome of you range from immature to just bigotted. Real world: There are gay people. TV: there are gay people. What’s the fuss? This is not an attempt to sensationalise it and those who think it is apparently haven’t noticed the real world where a minority of people aren’t heterosexual. It’s not a big thing, it’s just an observation and nothing more. It’s not “maybe we’ll make them gay for the lolz”, it’s “some people are gay, maybe some of our characters are”. This should be no more controversial than the decision to cast people of different ethnicities in it, except you can’t just cast homosexuality, if you want it, you have to write it in. It’s scary how unphased some are by the homophobia. Imagine if there people commetning “If I wanted to see black people there are websites I could go to…If I wanted to see Muslim people there are websites I can go to”.
This isn’t a controversy! It’s just a *thing*. It’s just one decision about an aspect of a few characters that happens to highlight how backwards some people are.
Stargate SG-1 was a show that very early on showed how women could be successful in prominant military roles and made a point of highlighting sexism as very incorrect, and I can only hope they highlight how homophobia is just as incorrect in SGU.
It’s nice to see that a lot of similar thinking fans support this decision and haven’t written off the show because of their own prejudiced problems.
spaceerased | April 20 @ 10:47 amAnd if it is for ’social realism’, what a numbers ~LGBT~ demographics for today’s society? 5% or 7%? What a number of straight LGBT-sympathetic people in US? Or it just TV boys trends? Silence…
There is many ’special’ shows for G, L and other kinds of deviations. Personally I don’t want to watch old sad LGBT-s and it’s problems. BTW I can enjoy watching David Blue pretending and gay, like clown. :)
universacred | April 20 @ 10:50 amWhy the H#ll do people insist on talking about gays, bringing it up and shoving in our faces. This little article does just that. I find it insulting it is taking up space and in my face. Is there some need for it to be pushed on us? I expect the continuation of good Sci-fi, not social aspects of the side I am not part of, in a bright glowing Marquee screaming you must look, see, and hear gays!
Take it to the tabloids, or some freaky parties, or wherver it needs to be but not as the main news on a fine Sci-fi website like Gateworld.
retiredat44 | April 20 @ 10:57 amJust doing a bit of research, it seems that gay people make up somewhere between 4-10% of the US population. According to this article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26853832/ 2.6% of characters in prime time this year were gay. That is not representative at all, so Stargate adding a gay character is not ’shoving it in your face’. And to the people who say it’s going to be all about sex now, or every week ‘who is having sex with who’, how did you possibly get that from the original article? It said there is one gay character and we get to meet her long-term partner in the 7th episode. How is that going to add more sex to the show? She’s in a committed relationship, which is more than I can say about Jack and the random women from other worlds he slept with (which, by the way, was he doing soley for procreation?)
Having gay people on these shows is important, since they are part of our society and deserve to be represented (just like people of other races or religions). Even if ‘all the shows are getting gay characters’ now, it’s only because they are becoming more enlightened and realize they need to be more inclusive. I hope everyone who is ‘disgusted’ by gay people do stop watching the show. Because I’m disgusted by you.
miki_mouse | April 20 @ 11:18 am“Let’s get some animals (wink, wink) involved too”
miki_mouse | April 20 @ 11:45 amDid you honestly just compare what two consenting adults do in a bedroom to a person assaulting an animial? Why don’t you just go all the way and accuse the show of promoting pedophilia next? Your ’slippery slope’ argument is ridiculous even if you only consider that homosexuality is legal in the US, but bestiality and pedophilia are not.
I think it is wise to focus on Rob’s comments: They are doing this in an attempt to represent the world as it actually is in SGU’s cast of characters. You can wish there weren’t gay characters on the show (for whatever reasons you have) and you can wish there weren’t gay people in the world (for whatever reasons). But they exist, so I think it’s fair (and yes, even wise) for the show to depict them. This is going to be a character drama about real human beings in extraordinary circumstances.
Also, they don’t appear to be after the “hawt” girl-on-girl action angle (e.g. the House episode “Lucky Thirteen”). The SGU characters we know of so far who are gay are a 40-something couple in a long-term, committed relationship, and there are no hints of any bedroom scenes.
As with all things SGU, let’s see how they handle it before passing judgment.
@retiredat44: As to the newsworthiness of this item, I think the 50 comments in under 12 hours speak for themselves. This is a topic many readers are concerned about.
Darren Sumner | April 20 @ 12:09 pm