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GateWorld Podcast: What Do Fans Owe the Show?

Wednesday - September 2, 2009
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Previously on the GateWorld Podcast: All the way back in December we talked about Fan Entitlement, what we think the writers and producers of shows like Stargate SG-1, Atlantis and Universe owe the loyal viewers who tune in every week, who buy DVDs, and who participate in the online fan community. In this week’s show we are reversing that question: What do we as fans owe to the show(s) that we love so much?

Should you watch new episodes live rather than on Tivo, or online? Should you spend your money on a DVD, even if you didn’t care for that season or movie all that much? Should you watch the newest spin-off show? David and Tame weigh in on all this and more.

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  • What Do Fans Owe the Show?
    Nothing at all, we paid to support it all these years, we owe it absolutely nothing, we can stop watching when we want.

    What does the show owe fans?
    Now that’s a completely different question.

  • Cannot download the mp3 file for this podcast. There is something wrong with the link – pls fix since I need my podcast fix! (Last week’s podcast mp3 works just fine)

  • All fans owe is the cost of the episodes rental fee, the seasons dvd cost and any other costs required to view the footage and thats it. When writers and cast start to get in their head that they are entitled or dont have to work as hard because the fans “owe them” the show starts to go down hill.

  • I think fans should buy what they like and not feel obligated to buy something just because it has Stargate in the title. I own all of SG-1 and a few seasons of Atlantis because I liked those seasons. I didn’t buy the last couple of seasons of Atlantis because I didn’t like it. I don’t own the cartoon series because it doesn’t interest me. I don’t feel obligated to watch Universe because it doesn’t interest me.

    I didn’t think it mattered if you watched the show live or not if you aren’t selected as a ratings household. Right?

  • For my favorite ep, id have to say its between ‘The Pegasus Project’ and ‘Unending’ its hard because the both have excellent storys as well as great cgi shots. The Series finale was by far one of the best in SG-1 history clear back so season 1. An idea for a discussion topic… the music of SG-1 and Atlantis? How are the two simular and how are they different? And what about the movies? Anyhow thanks and goodbye.

  • I think the only thing fans owe the franchise is the benefit of the doubt. But that hardly counts, because until proven otherwise, we ALL deserve the benefit of the doubt.

    No one should feel obligated to support a franchise by purchasing material they do not like/enjoy.

  • they owe the franchise a cup of ‘shut up and just accept that filler episodes are a fact of life, and that they cannot cater to their every fanfiction fantasy.’

  • I watch what I like and I don’t feel that fans should have to watch or buy something they don’t. I own season 1-5 & 10 of SG1 and all of SGA because they where my favorites but I won’t be watching or buying SGU because it doesn’t interest me at all.

  • Hey David and Tame,
    It is so much fun and a little strange listening to your podcast. I feel like I’m spying on your conversation. Two things: I watch live and Tame. what do you have against Season 7?!

  • Another comment. Friends and I promote “Stargate Universe” and “Defying Gravity” so much on Twitter that I wish I could track the effect.

  • Still cannot download the mp3 file. Luckily I took your advise and went to a podcast catcher site and there it worked… I agree with most comments here – fans don’t owe the show anything more than paying for the episodes they want to buy :D and watch what they want. Though I must admit that I’d have a hard time myself saying I won’t watch SGU because it doesn’t interest me. Any scifi interest me :D

  • I think its quite ridiculous to even think that fans owe the creators of a show, “any show” whatever the genre any thing. They choose to be in that profession nobody twisted there arms an its not like they don’t get paid for DOING THERE JOB! Its a job, if the material provided attracts people then they did there job well, if it doesn’t well they need to rethink what they did, not have any notion that fans should just blindly support an buy DVDs ect… because a fan owes them something for them doing there job!

    We pay for the cable/ satellite etc…so we can watch these TV shows, we pay for DVDs, if they appeal an you liked an bought them, we pay for merchandising again if something appeals. Sorry what else should you do, BUY something even if you didn’t care for it, or watch a spin off even if it doesn’t appeal at all, to just show the creators how much you appreciate them for giving you something that you had to pay for in the first instance just to watch.

    That’s a very strange logic to me and its very arrogance, just in the notion alone. I guess maybe if you’re a fan of the franchise “maybe” an see it wrapped up as one complete entity then “maybe” you think would think, support out of loyalty to the franchise. I don’t know, as I’m not, it just doesn’t make sense to me. Personally I like a TV show, if its good, I buy the stuff, if its not I wont because I don’t owe them anything, same goes for viewing habits.

  • Time after time, great Science Fiction Shows gets cancelled, just after people get’s hooked in. I’m sure there’s Many great reasons why the shows got cancelled. BUT.. when the producers and directors say ” We want to leave on a high note, and It’s much better for us to do Feature Length releases instead of weekly’s”. “Also, we are looking for a new demographic, since the old ones (no pun intended) simply does not cut it”. I can’t believe you can ask the question keeping a straight face “What Do Fans Owe the Show?”. My personal favorite would be, a swift kick to the rear end :D (But then, I might scuff my shoes)

  • So according to Junebug, crappy writing and then worthless “reminiscent’ episodes are to be expected, and we should be thankfull that we got a dose of De-javu, because we don’t remember tose episodes?

  • What??? what we the fans owe to them, “yeah right”

    Sweet F A thats what, I pay my hard earn ££s when I buy DVDs or pay for Virgin 1, thats enough, cant believe someone would even “think” to ask that question!!!!! It could only happend in a America!! he he

    US06154- So true, my view exactly.

  • Fans owe that bunch of showers NOTHING, look what they did to SGA an then axed for rubbish like (B) SGU. I know what I’d like to say to the “gentleman” in person an it wouldnt be pretty. Who the hell do creators of a TV show think that fans in general owe “them”!, got paid didnt they, so we’ve quits!!!!!!!

  • Fans owe them nothing. They do a job and get paid for it. They don’t give any consideration to the fans, all they care about is getting an audience and they don’t really care where it comes from.

  • The only thing a fan of the Stargate franchise owes is their time and attention when a new episode is aired. I think this is the least the executives expect out of Stargate fans.

    A person has to feel satisfied with what they received in order to feel that they owe something. So people that feel they owe nothing obviously are not satisfied with what they received with Stargate SG1 and SGA. So how can they call them selves fans. If you truly love a show how can you not at least owe them your attention.

  • The Question is not “What do Fans owe MGM or SyFy?” It’s what do Fans owe the SHOW?” If you love the show how can you give a negative comment. Of course we don’t owe MGM and SyFy anything. I don’t watch Stargate SG1 or SGA because I love MGM or SyFy. I watch it for the characters and adventures that entertain me week after week. So as long as I am being entertained I will freely give them my full attention.

  • Fans are not obligated to owe the show, the franchise, or the actors anything, but of course they can choose to buy the dvds, promote the show, watch the show live or not (because this doesn’t mater anyway unless you are a Nielson person), criticize what they don’t like, etc. etc. if they so feel inclined.

    I watch Stargate and have since practically the beginning, but not that it mattered because I’m not a Nielson family. The only Stargate thing I actually own is the dvd movie Continuum. I rented Ark of Truth. Don’t own a single dvd set of SG-1 or SGA. I’ll probably get around to buying them some time in the next couple of years, but I don’t feel I owe them anything. They provided a product. I watched it and enjoyed it for the most part while I was disappointed in other parts. I just eventually want the dvds for my own convenience and enjoyment and not because I feel I owe them and thus must purchase them.

    As far as SGU, I certainly don’t feel obligated to watch it. I’ll watch the pilot and go from there, but if it sucks well I just won’t bother with it. They won’t miss me if I don’t watch it anyway.

    Fans owe the show nothing. It’s my time and money to do with as I wish. And the show owes the fans nothing. It’s their product to do with as they see fit.

  • I don’t have cable. I have SG1 all seasons. But if Sg1 comes on TV in the middle of the night, I’ll watch it through commercials, because I’m a fan like that. But I do believe the best thing is word of mouth. I recruited a lot of people and because of me many people atleast know the show exist.

  • I am not in the catchment area to make a difference in the ratings as I live in the uk but I have been a fan of SG-1 from the first episode and have every single dvd and then I was loyal and checked out Atlantis. I loved this show and showed my loyalty by buying the dvds and magazines with the shows in them, I also have some of the books. When the show was on tv I watched it, so when SG-1 was cancelled I was heart-broken but survived, then they betrayed us Atlantis fans (yes I still feel this way but have calmed down a little) I was so angry and upset cos as I have bad health and do not get out much these shows help me a lot, I felt that tptb did not fight hard enough and made us believe that we were going to get another season of Atlantis. When they announced that they were doing SGU, again I was flippin’ furious and stated that I would not watch the show, I did check out the trailer but it left me cold! I think if they had let Atlantis have another year then I may have been more inclined to welcome a new show.

    As to what I owe the franchise etc, well nothing at all because I gave my loyalty and was betrayed by them, just look at the way the treated the cast and probably some of the crew! There was also a problem with Mallozzi and Gero, their arrogance made them feel they were better than their own cast! Mallozzi even has his own book club, he’s not even famous outside of the franchise and both of these men take over with the commentaries which I feel should be for the actors to do most of the time (I do like some of the technical commentaries but not by these very arrogant men!). Isn’t is a coincidence (NOT!) that tptb (or whomever (yeah right!) are asking this question now so near to the first showing of their new show!

    Let me just say:







    It’s okay with me if people do not agree with anything I have stated, it’s just what I feel and you are all entitled to agree or disagree, take care and bye!!!

  • I don’t think we owe them anything, but they would surely appreciate it if you “paid them back”
    and if you “paid them back”the show would go longer.

  • Hi Emily, I think I’ve done enough ‘paying back’ as have others and they have not shown us the loyalty we have given them! Also why pay back for a new show that I have no interest in and yes they would so love it if we did pay them back lol! Your comment is valid but I only give my loyalty when it is reciprocated!

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