If I still had cable my 46 would be tuned into the show but I watch it on hulu and various other sites.It sucks that i’m part of the problem, SGU is a good show that deserves more from its fanbase.

it is a rough night for tuesdays, NCIS, NCIS LA, Good Wife, etc. all lined up within 2-3 hours of each to compete with SGU……NOW I hear that BSG: Caprica is also moving to Tuesday nights.
Nasty move for SYFY…..both series are in serious trouble on Tuesday nights.

uh oh. I hope they wrap up the story line for the fans, if this does turn out to be the final season.

On the other hand, I did see a number of tweets from people who hadn’t realized the show had moved to Tuesdays

But not sure how many fall into that category, it would have to be quite a few to get a good bump in the ratings.

In my heart of hearts, though, my first reaction is that they should have stuck with SGA. Or ran them at the same time. Would have been an entirely different world, emotionally, for many fans.

That does suck, especially considering the major decisions on a third season are going to have to be made before this 2nd season and play out. ie if it’s halway through the season and people are still slowly coming back (adjusting to the time changes or plot improvements) then it might be too little too late.

As for me I make sure the tv is on. I’m willing to give it a few episodes to win me back after the dramafest that was most of season 1.

@ Craig MacD.

SGA got on average 1.6 million viewers in its 5th season.

@ Darren

The finale of Warehouse 13 aired at the same time as:

Dancing With the Stars (ABC)
NCIS: Los Angeles (CBS)
The Biggest Loser (hour 2) (NBC)
Raising Hope / Running Wilde (FOX)
Life Unexpected (The CW)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/22/tv-ratings-tuesday-glee-sings-modest-starts-for-running-wilde-raising-hope-detroit-1-8-7-parenthood-down/64590

With other words the finale of Warehouse 13 had the same strong competition like SGU.

I watched it live, and I have to say that I really enjoyed it. I felt the first season was uneven and not always attention-grabbing, but I was pleased with this episode. Somehow, for the first time it felt like it was really based in the SG mythology for me (without spoilers for those who haven’t watched it yet). I’d really prefer it – and Caprica – to be on Wednesday nights because there’s absolutely NOTHING worth watching, but they have to have their stupid ‘reality’ shows… I will continue to watch it live as often as I can. I think it’s really kicking in now.

I hope this doesn’t continue but if it does my fears will come true. As I first heard about this move to Tuesdays I feared that it would spell doom for a great show never given the proper chance to shine. SGU is a great show IMO and deserves way more than 2 seasons. However I am sure the producers will give us a fitting finale if this is the end.

When exactly has moving a show ever resulted in HIGHER ratings?

I am curious.

I’ve been a Stargate fan right from the original movie. Thanks to SG, I really love archaeology and history now!!

This spin-off has it’s place in the franchise, which is great, but unfortunately, after watching Intervention, I feel the multi-episode story the writers were aiming to climax to, burst just as the doctor was shot!! I was left at the end of season 1 feeling, WOW, this story is growing and the best is yet to come! So, 3 months go by and then we see Intervention …. the fast-paced action continuity was COMPLETELY GONE!!!! Drained like a depleted ZPM. Eli had it exactly right, “Just another day in Outer Space” …. he let us know flat-out the best of the climax had already happened!!!! Even at the airlock, there was no chemistry!! No, “Holy cow, you don’t know how lucky y’all are!!”

By the end of Intervention, I felt so disappointed and led-on to believe there was much more to come in the story plot. But suddenly we realize we were dropped off before Incursion Pt 2 ended. Intervention felt like it had no part in the continuation of a Cliff-Hanger. Com’on guys, you can do better! We’ve seen you do better! What happened???

My feeling, even if those left on the planet was a real occurance, we were left no timeline of it actually happening. When they came back to Destiny in “Faith”, I thought all came back …. but now, some did stay behind? Hmm. Guess I need to go back and rewatch the show. Either that, or this is an alternate timeline where we see Destiny being destroyed in the previewes. So, in the timeline we’re familiar with, the Cliff-Hanger conclusion must have ended on a much different tone. I sure hope so!

Worse yet here on the West Coast the show is running on Tuesdays against Glee which is a huge ratings draw. Hopefully the DVR viewship is way up. Also check your DVR schedule my recorder did not catch the shift in days.
I too hope more seasons will be forthcoming and the word gets out moving forward. SGU only gets better with each episode, keeping me on edge for the next week.

They should have kept Atlantis going…this lame duck is sinking. Its painful to watch, so depressing…and I’m a HUGE stargate fan, own all the disks, all the books etc.

It moved to Tuesdays?

I’m fighting to urge to say this is good news. I don’t want anyone to lose their jobs, I just want Stargate back.

I loved every moment of this episode, but apart from buying the DVDs when they come out (which I’ve already done twice over for the first season), not sure what else I can do to be counted in the statistics, being outside the US. An article on “how to support SGU” would be welcome, by the way (might’ve been one already but a bit of repetition won’t hurt!).

Looks like newcomers to the show enjoy it as well.

Also, surely the entire Stargate franchise suffers if people decide to avoid SGU?

*#SGU*Chloehasfishcooties*#SGU*The show is building itself up, Trust me, it’s more new comers than old regulars, but it’s coming back. On the Twitter as I played the fool, and updated searches, I’ve read dozens of Tweets from people fascinated by the show. Not to mention a good many people watched the show outside the United States; I’m in the Bahamas, Nassau. So I’ll spam my little heart out to keep things going if I can on tweeter and other forums around the world*#SGU*Chloehasfishcooties*#SGU*

I could’ve told them that. I had to fight for the remote to keep it on SGU instead of Dancing with the Stars. I’ll probably have to do that until either show ends, so my viewing won’t contribute to the ratings…

Keep this in mind everyone, they don’t make DVD and BD sales from most reality shows, and with Sci-fi those extra money earners should be factored in, as well as syndication and worldwide viewing.
Also most reality shows do not air outside of the region they originate from, so have a more limited market.

Networks should rely less on ratings to evaluate the quality of their shows. Some shows are awesome, but get canceled because no one watches them. They should come up with a different measuring stick than ratings.

@ Imperious

But reality shows are much cheaper to produce. And Syfy only cares about the ratings on its own channel. Everything else may made MGM happy, but that won’t be enough to rescue SGU. The fate of SGU depends solely on the ratings of the US Syfy channel. Everything else is unimportant.

If you’re an SGU fan now is the time to spread the word. Let your friends know about SGU and when to watch it. The show is getting better and better. It would be a shame to see it go. It’s the only space-based show around. Rally the troops!

On other news, the DOW index went down 20 points yesterday. People panicked over the world as they assumed that this one day decline marked the start of a continual decline. Might as well give up on humanity and life. Or…. wait to see how it performs over a long period of time instead of taking one snapshot of time out of context and blowing it out of proportion!!!

<>Smells like Firefly all over again…shame.

please Syfy, move SGU back to Fridays at it’s regular time. Fridays is meant for Stargate. All the Stargate series aired on Fridays. Friday is Stargate night.

I hope the UK ratings will be better than these…

Sorry IMO the Ratings show exactly how booring SGU is.

I watched Intervention and it was as slow as ever

Still not really any Scfi content and still to much talking. And foremost why waste 20 Mins on TJ with that dream?

I find it a shame that U.S. audiences only decide whether to cancel a show like Stargate.
There are many more fans outside and I think if the American public no longer love the Stargate franchise and is jaded, I move a distribution and international funding.
This show is quality, renew the franchise, has some excellent actors and that’s the Stargate!
I will never understand the Americans, they have a great show of science fiction and would rather watch American Idol and other nonsense … Pitiful … But especially sad for the international fans.
Business is business …

Well I DVR’d it an watched it the next day. The show was okay but not really grabbing or even up to the finale. It deserved the rating it got. Should have put Anderson, Tapping, and Shanks in the opener since they were in the finale. Maybe more would have watched. Still don’t “love” the characters like SGA-SG1. For me it is hard to get vested in characters that are so flawed and non heroic. Watching SGU is like a slice of everyday life. Really. There are enough reality shows out there.

I have been a HUGE Stargate Fan. I liked the movie, I subscribed to ShowTime just to see SG-1. I have all the titles available on DVD. I DO NOT LIKE SGU very much, though I do watch it. I watched it on Tuesday night. I don’t like soap opera in space. They should have kept on with SGA.

Hey Duneknight don’t rip on Eli he’s a great character.

The rating on the first episode for season 2 shouldn’t be that surprising as the ratings were steadily zig zaging their way downward last year. Meaning there was a high one week followed by a low the next then week a higher rating that was higher than the last low and so on. Ultimately it was a negative trend in ratings the continuation of that pattern is probably less a result of switch in days and could more be attributed a general loss of interest in the program.

I have Dish DVR, which is satellite TV. You can pause TV, do recordings of it, rewind, speed-up TV, etc. So when Intervention aired I set it to record. I’m not affecting the ratings negatively, am I?

Cant say im surprised!
Everyone who bothered to give it a chance on the first season has cleverly not bothered to tune in. We watched stargate, we bought stargate, we lived stargate and YOU KILLED IT!
Really wish they had bothered to listen to the people who actually gave the stargate franchise the life it had. Whats next a copy of V with a stargate?
Take destiny and change it to the battlestar, take the aliens and change them to cylons and BANG complete rip and complete fail!
Atlantis would still be kicking these ratings!
I dont think they can ever come back from this, probably got to use to wobbling the camera and talking about dribble sci fans couldnt give a toss about. I mean the whole reason stargate was soo good was 1. Yes there was an story arc but you couldnt pretty much watch any episode without getting to confused 2. everything was light hearted (exactly what i want after a days stress at work) 3. The characters had qualities everyone wished they had.
Ohhh i just wondered when did the lucien alliance start using Uzi’s?? Ta Ta stargate

Maybe moving to Tuesday night wasn’t a good idea, but I’m glad they at least gave it a shot. I don’t think Friday was a good night for it. At least if it does get canceled after this season, they can at least say they tried airing on another night. I hope it doesn’t get canceled after this season though…I think it’s a great show. SGU and Caprica are my two favorite shows on TV right now…it sucks that neither of them is doing that well.

goodbye SGU.

Wow, I saw bad news for SGU and I just knew that I see all the old founding members of the SGU hate machine in here. Y’all come to gloat? I hope you like your old reruns, cause when SGU goes down, expect StarGate as a franchise to go on hiatus for at least a decade if not more.

@DarkElfa,
as far I”m concerned I’d rather Stargate BE dead than continue down this path. So yeah, I’m gloating

@krazzed I think it was established in “Off the Grid” that the Lucian Alliance use guns. At least the Lucian thugs did.

I think SGU and the writers for this series have the ability to point SGU to a much anticipated answer on the dilemma the ancients saw in the traditional stargate … it’s range and power requirements. I bet the ancients developed something far better and more simplistic than the stargate itself … not ascension, but much like how the communication device works; on a physical and mental level … but ultimately, ascension was result for the ancients. Another thought: “Destiny” looks much like one of the branches of Atlantis’ foundation … perhaps Destiny is a piece of a puzzle on the far end of the path … or destiny.

There’s ABSOLUTELY no reason why Stargate should have to end with all the ideas that can be hashed out of real science, mythology and archaeology!! The world is becoming way to obsessed with “what’s new and what’s old”. There’s still plenty of stories to tell, as seen with the Simpsons, LOL!! A quick science teaser …. has anybody ever done any reading into a REAL PHENOMENON called “Flux Transfer Events” (FTE)? Look it up! The magnetic umbilical not only connects Earth to the sun, but to other planets; suns to suns and beyond our system. There’s your proof for a real Stargate! Stuff like this, real science, will get us out into the universe and keep SG going :-)

I liked the fan-based funding idea, but without the expectation of ever receiving any discounts back (no, I’m not employed by the writers, LOL) … If you care enough to give and help out, then giving to possibly intrigue new fans will have it’s own pay-back and rewards.

It makes me sad to hear all this SGU bashing. Hating on SGU isn’t going to bring Atlantis back, it’s going to kill off the entire Stargate franchise forever.

I really wish SyFy and other networks would stand up to the antiquated Neilson ratings system, which is good for nothing but killing off quality TV. Neilson does NOT represent viewers accurately, and it is sci-fi’s worst nightmare. These numbers are absolutely meaningless!

BTW- we are getting a nielson DIARY in the mail and when it arrives, I guarantee we will watch SGU live and that TUES will show SGU on it. It is just for 1 week but it’s the best I can do and at least it is something.
Max

a few years ago i read an article about how nielsen would no longer report separate ratings for programs that are repeated during the same wk. for instance, if a tues episode of sgu drew 1.5 million viewers and the syfy repeats it on sat to 2 million new viewers, Nielsen would simply report that sgu had 3.5 million viewers, that could potentially help syfy if they schedule more same week reruns, however i haven’t read anything current on the matter. i wonder if they still practice that policy? i personally hate the nielsen ratings monopoly. i think it’s outdated. most people are using other mediums to watch tv programs (online, being a major one) i’m probably in the minority, but even though i have a dvr, i still watch live tv, granted i take the time alloted for commercials to get mundane tasks done i.e folding laundry, doing situps,but what i don’t get is, why can’t my dvr or other cable receivers be used as measurements for tv ratings? the larger the pool, the more stable the data, no? i know my directv dvr already has a feature that lets you click on the 5 most popular programs of that given moment. that tech could be easily adopted and sold to advertisers/networks. speaking of which, i think the best bet of keeping sgu on the air is supporting the advertisers supporting the show, writing/emailing these companies and expressing your love for sgu and their products. i mean what could it hurt? at most we get a season 3 of sgu, at minimum you’d probably get a free coupon :D

@in3d: You want to, “If you care enough to give and help out”, give to the Cancer Research Society, Juvenile Diabetes, ALS, MD, abused Women’s shelter, or at best, Your local Soup Kitchen. That’s where you’d make the biggest difference, Not fattening someone else’s wallet.

You are dead right Rob, I think SGU is excellent and I thoroughly enjoyed the start of the new season.
Let’s see how the next 2 episodes go before any more bad judgements are made.
It’s definitely more realistic than SG1 or SGA, and the Music is also Fantastic.

I live In Canada and I haven’t seen the episode yet, it’s on tonight. I do not like SGU as much as I did Atlantis so I agree with Marty. They shouldn’t have cancelled SGA. SGU has to much drama and not enough Sc-Fi action as the other series did. But i’m still going to watch it tonight.

@Xyla
If hating kills off the Stargate franchise than I’m all for it. I rather SGU be canceled so Stargate can RIP and this bastard child of the franchise can end.

What will it take for tptb to realise that this show is unloved and unwanted. Do the decent thing and put it out of its and our misery. The ratings are humiliating and only serve to detract from the good name that the franchise once had.

Don’t waste your time Mitchell82, they stopped listening when Atlantis was canceled and now they want revenge, pure and simple.

@Mitchell82
I appreciate that some people enjoy the show but they are in the minority as shown by the ratings.
@DarkElfa
Atlantis was doing a lot better than SGU is at the moment so it is not revenge that I am after – merely justice.

Don’t think this is a fair estimate after the day swap, problem with SyFy is they hardly ever advertise stuff like this either, happened with Dollhouse, me, and the 4 other people I know who watch it, only started watching it after it’d already been cancelled.

Remember a few months ago, I’m sure there was a ‘For Crying Out Loud’ article saying all these people moaning about SGU have had their say and enough was enough…apparently nobody listened to that. (Seriously though, have you nothing better to do than come on here and moan about the show? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it…quite simple).

I remember most people had already decided their opinion before they’d even seen a TRAILER for SGU. Dunno why that was personally, but tons of folk were commenting like ‘its gonna be s***’ months before it was in production…
The producers DID say that SGU was aimed at younger people, and younger people (as a whole) tend to like shows that are more focused on the characters.

If all these moaners want to blame someone then blame the fans, LOADS of people complained about how SGA was too much like SG-1 (bringing in replicators, SG-1 characters, asgard etc), so all the producers done was listen to EXACTLY what the fans were saying, so done something different with the show.
And personally, I think ALL tv shows are slow going in the first few seasons, I didn’t really like SG-1 til about season 5/6, and Season 1 of Atlantis was pretty slow going too, so I don’t see what the problem is. All the people who are complaining about it are saying ‘its to much like BSG’ or ‘its too character based’. 1. I watched the first half of the first season of BSG, couldn’t get into it, wasn’t really good IMO, and 2. ITS MEANT TO BE CHARACTER BASED!.
If you’ve not got anything better to do then go watch reruns of SG-1 or Atlantis, just stop complaining and annoying the people who like SGU. (You wouldn’t like it if I went and started whining about SG-1 or Atlantis’ faults – which they have, ALL shows have faults).

I will say though the overall quality of the episodes is through the roof but just is not working for me and if ratings dont improve series 3 will be it.. maybe 4 to finish the story.

I reckon all Whingers should go and find something they do like and write in those forums.
Does anyone here remember “Earth Final Conflict”?
Season one was very good, then it became absolute rubbish. How on earth did that show manage 5 seasons I’ll never understand.
Even Andromeda’s 5th season went down the toilet.
SGU is way way better than many sci-fi series of the past, but i do agree that they need to make characters a bit less flawed and more likeaball, even loveable.
I thought new BSG was the most miserable, depressing piece of sci-fi ever made, so please don’t take SGU in that direction.
SGU is far more believable “Science Fiction” wise than Star Trek, Star Wars, and even old Stargate.

@ colin15watt

“The producers DID say that SGU was aimed at younger people, and younger people (as a whole) tend to like shows that are more focused on the characters.”

SGU isn’t skewing younger than SGA. The average viewer of SGU is around 50 years old.

Hi! My first post here, having been a passive reader for more than a year.
For what it’s worth, my view is as follows – SG-1 & SGA were more enjoyable, more sci-fi and definitely had an upbeat atmosphere to them. They also had the optimism that is quite scarce on SGU. So really a shame Atlantis was dumped.
About the Season 2 Premier poor ratings – I personally remembered quite clearly that it was due to air in OCTOBER 2010, and big was my surprise when I discovered today that I’ve missed the train by full five days.
As to the show going on, at least in its SGU format, I have a few suggestions.
First, find a way to collect some money from the fans. As was correctly pointed out – the Nielsen ratings only follow the advertising views. We may assume that the average SG fan is not too keen about ads and either channel-surfs or fast-forwards, so it will hardly look too good in Nielsen’s & Advertisers’ eyes. I’m presently living in Eastern Europe and as much as I tried, my views would never count. The local TV broadcasts are a few years behind at least. So the internet is my only way. Like undoubtedly much of the global audience, I get the new episode ~8 hours after it’s aired in the US. This trend is hardly going to change, unless someone flips the internet kill switch.
So the suggestion – what if all the fans agreed to cough up ~$1-2 per episode. For 1M fans and 20 episodes that would make $20-40M per season, for 2M fans double. I am not sure about production costs. The people who’ve attended the Vancouver conventions might know better – maybe this is far too little, maybe not. There would still be money to be made off DVD-s, advertisers, selling to TV stations across the world and the merchandise. But it could expand the customer base beyond North America’s 330M, by adding fans from Europe, Japan, Australia, Europe, perhaps some from India and China, South America & the Middle East. It should probably be an annual advance payment due to the long production cycle. Personally I have little faith in the jobless “economic recovery” and short-term nature of MGM’s problems.
Fan-base was sth that’s kept Harley Davidson alive across several periods of economic turmoil and quality that sometimes had room for improvement. Couldn’t we do the same here?
And as you know – who pays the piper, calls the tune. Meaning, we might even get to say a word or two to the producers about future developments, if organized correctly. And they might listen to our input. This would be a social-media/Web 2.0 twist to a series- production at the era of advanced information accessibility.

The same approach could easily finance the two missing movies as well. And, if we love the produce, it does not have to be profit making, as we will have paid for sth we enjoy. With present financing models, money has to come back with hefty profit. Which could be an option as well, but once the financial base is going to be so diluted, it’s not a must, being funded by a loyal fan base. And if there are enough people interested, we could even bring SGA back.
As a start we could set up a survey and send the info around using a viral tell-a friend script to see if critical mass could be summoned. And we could do it right here at Gateworld to stay on top of things.
And last but not least, if that is not enough, moving the production base from Canada to Hong Kong or Bombay (the fruits of globalization) would bring down the production costs significantly.

The fact that TPTB have spent $$’s on promoting SGU only to have terrible viewing figures is the reason I gloat.
Should SGU get cancelled I would feel sympathy for the fans, after all its what the SG1/SGA fans have been going through! At least the TPTB won’t be cancelling your show because they ‘think’ they have a better idea for a spin-off.

I am really saddened to see that we are back in the black and white boxes… Why is it so difficult to have a differentiated view of the show? The world is not comprised of people loving SGU and people hating/bashing SGU but there is a lot in between. Above all there are people with valid positive or negative (constructive) comments and these people have a right to be heard. Do all the SGU lovers out there seriously want everyone just to love the show without any criticism? Yes, people who are not really interested in constructive criticism should just stop watching the show and leave everyone else alone, but these are a handful. I am sure a lot of enthusiastic Stargate fans out there struggle with every episode (at least I do) because it is their favourite franchise and they do not want to give up on it. And although it may be tiring sometimes, I think it should go without saying that we can all have vivid discussions about the thoughts we all have without someone waving the killer argument “you just hate the show and so I won’t listen to you anyway”.

Having said that, I think the franchise suffered from the cancellation of SGA but I watch SGU and I really really want to like it. So far, it’s difficult. It’s way too slow. Even when the plot is good (which it was in this three parter), the show has this distinct everyday soapy feeling missing real tension. And let’s be honest, nobody really believed some of the main cast would die which in the end means they are heroes again (something the TBTB wanted to avoid at all cost). The difference is, now we have flawed heroes so we do no longer like them (aside from Eli maybe) and it is so difficult to invest in one of these guys.
Nevertheless, for the sake of all SGU fans out there, I hope the show will continue. And I will try to watch, I promise :-)

I agree with Sam1976 above. It’s unrealistic to make any assumption that fans of the old shows would easily carry over to this show. They went in a questionable direction for the franchise and now they’re dealing with the consequences. Stargate was never a hugely popular show. It wasn’t the numbers it got that kept it going, it was the dedicated fanbase. There was a lot of value in knowing exactly who the audience was. Advertising money isn’t just about the numbers but also what those numbers represent. Advertisers knew exactly what to target in the old shows. 1.5 million known fans were infinitely more valuable than 5 million random fans. With SGU, they slapped the old Stargate fans in the face and basically said take it or leave it…and many clearly left it. It’s already obvious that they’ve started to realize the mistake but it’s likely too little too late. With MGM in it’s current financial situation and SGU having a season premiere with such low numbers, it’s fate may have already been decided. It’s not going to get a month for viewers to ‘find it again’ like some are suggesting will improve the ratings. It also makes it pretty clear that they’ve lost at least 1/3 of their old audience which is very significant with numbers that are already so tight. Old Stargate fans knew when and where they would next see the shows. They didn’t wait to happen by it, they sought it out. Places like Gateworld and dozens of other sites provided the information as soon as it was available and people would check regularly to find out when it was coming back. Clearly a large chunk of their current fans don’t fit this mold and that’s obviously a problem.

im gonna be really sad if they decide to nix this show from television. i watch it on my dvr and i get yelled at by my friends from talking about it so much. maybe they should go back to the old style filming. maybe thats why SG-1 and SG Atlantis did so well….hint hing

As I’m from Belgium, I’ve been watching SGA from season 2 online after watching season 1 on tv. After that I watched all SG-1′s online but I bought SGA dvds when they came out here.
The only reason I watch SGU is to make sure I don’t miss anything that could be important or just a nice fact for any SG-1 or SGA movies etc. I don’t mind if they take it off the air, would save me the trouble keeping up. Hated the beginning of S02E01, as you go from the SO1E20 cliffhanger to a silent cabin.. In my opinion, you should never change a winning horse & bring me SGA back.

O and add more action and more plots!

@Ancient Scientist I’m 15 and I live in Canada I have seen every stargate episode every made and I own all the SGA seasons and four of the SG-1 seasons. I totally agree with what you said, it is so boring to me now. It’s no longer a sc-fi action, it’s a boring drama that has little action or sc-fi. I personally would have prefered if SGA didn’t get cancelled and SGU was never made. I watch SGU so that I can say that i’ve seen ever episode and not miss an episode that might actually be Stargate worthy, but so far i’ve seen nothing that I found good. Also if SGU gets cancelled it would be an amazing season if they went with your idea and based the season on ancient! I would watch that for sure!