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Producers ‘haven’t given up’ on finishing SGU‘s story

Thursday - December 23, 2010
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"Aftermath" (SGU 202) - Shuttle

The producers of Stargate Universe still hope to finish out the story that they started — one way or another.  Series co-creator Brad Wright has made his first public comments on Syfy’s cancellation of the series (story), stating that they have not given up yet.

“We haven’t given up on finishing the story we started,” Wright told Show Patrol. He told the site that he and executives at MGM — the studio that owns the Stargate franchise — are currently exploring several options for continuing the series in some form.

Wright heard about the cancellation news while he was on a trip, according to the site. He and several members of the SGU cast were reportedly at sea (and incommunicado) on board an aircraft carrier when Deadline.com broke the story one week ago, citing a Syfy announcement.

The cancellation was quickly confirmed via Syfy’s Twitter account, after which it became evident that at least some of the show’s cast hadn’t been informed by the producers yet (story).

Wright said that, in spite of the bad news, he was encouraged to return to find that many people were upset by it. “It’s heartening to see so many people upset about Syfy’s cancellation of the show,” he said, “but it’s important to remember that their license fee represented only a portion of our total budget.”

Brad Wright

SGU is also licensed internationally, and supported by online and DVD sales. MGM announced this week that its bankruptcy restructuring is now complete, and that the studio has secured $500 million in financing to kick-start its film and television productions — some of which may likely go into keeping the Stargate franchise alive.

Executive producer Joseph Mallozzi also commented at his blog on the current state of Stargate Universe’s future:  “Obviously, it doesn’t look good,” he said.  “But is this the end?  Well, the Syfy cancellation makes it very long odds that we’ll be producing a third season next year.  But is this the end? … The honest answer is: I don’t know.

“No, that’s not entirely true.  The truth is I do know some — but only enough to say it doesn’t look good and it’s very log odds we’ll be producing a third season next year — yet still only enough to say I can’t say this is definitely the end.  At least for now.”

Just what Universe‘s odds are for finishing up its major storyline — and whether this might take the form of a third season on another network, a DVD movie or two, or something completely different — remains to be seen.

Read the full story now at Show Patrol, and stick with GateWorld for the latest! The final episodes of Stargate Universe air this spring on Syfy in the United States.




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  • Well isn’t this a nice Christmas present?

    HOPE!

    Merry Christmas to all!

  • Yay, we have some hope now…I wonder if “Hope” will be the name of one of the episodes to come.

  • MGM will hopefully use this money to film the SG-1 and SGA movies that we’ve all been waiting for!

  • It amazes me how one channel can have such power over the future of one show maybe you could approach Sky or someone like that. I was just getting into the story it was coming together nicely. Loved it.

  • Hopefully we can get both the SG-1 and SGA movies, along with SGU’s third season on a different channel.

    @General Jumper One Maybe Hope will be the episode SGU’s ratings spike to 3 million. :o

  • Imagine this!

    Stargate: UK

    I like L&O: UK. Maybe Jaime Barber could do double duty. Just a thought.

    Good eggnog!

  • The SGU story will probably continue in books or audiobooks, which is a shame since it is a very visual part of the Stargate lorE.

  • Please learn from your mistakes. Fans want SG-1, SGA or something new in the typical stargate style. Otherwise it won’t be watched again…

  • I really hope that if they do it in film format, it supersedes the SGA or SG1 films – at least those two have stories which are wrapped up. SGU’s situation is currently like being part way through the last ever copy of a book, and then someone coming up and ripping it out of your hands, and burning it.

    (Plus it would greatly irritate the people who have been constantly flooding any SGU news story with negative comments (regardless of what the stroies are about) too, which would always be a plus! ;))

  • just make a movie to finish it off. no books or comics please. i want to WATCH it.

  • maybe a subscription channel for sg only on the Internet.. and DVD… let the sci-fi (bogus syfy) channel rot … there needs to be a real sci-fi network that actually cares about it’s fans…. sG franchis eis a cash cow, and there must be more than enough investors that will back it up…

  • Well this is potentially great news to get this Christmas Eve! Fingers crossed!

  • I’ll take anything I can get from the franchise. Even if they move it to a premium channel I’ll be signing up.

  • I am delighted to see that Bred and team won’t give up without a fight. We don’t know details yet, but something what Bred said made me curious:
    ““It’s heartening to see so many people upset about Syfy’s cancellation of the show,” he said, “but it’s important to remember that their license fee represented only a portion of our total budget.””

    Does that mean that SyFy didn’t paid for all production costs and actually they need to find a replacement only for part of it? I didn’t know that.

    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/december-23-2010-learning-to-julienne-carrots

    Also it is interesting that Joseph in blog entry linked above mentions that there is quite a hope to bring team back on studio. It seems that there is a hope. Yes, hope can fail us, but hope also can be fulfilled. So let’s hope for the best.

  • If Syfy’s fee represented only a portion, couldn’t they continue producing the show for the syndicated market?

    I’d hate to see this end up on a crappy comic or novel. I want live action, I want actors, I want SFX, not drawings or words on a piece of paper. That’s not Stargate,.

  • I’m hoping for AMC. It’s the only channel out there that gets it. I mean, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead… All shows that nobody wanted, and look at those shows now. Some of the best TV out there.

  • As successful as Walking Dead has been, on more than one occasion reviewers have pointed out that it doesn’t have a big budget due to being on AMC, so AMC may not be able to afford something like Stargate SGU.

    Starz may not be able to afford it either. As good as Spartacus is and looks, it does rely far too much on green screen. I doubt we’d enjoy seeing green screen replace location shooting when they go to other planets.

  • Is it too corny to say “the ship on SGU was called Destiny for a reason”?

    I really hope they get the chance to finish the SGU story. I don’t mind it ending, just as long as it ends with a conclusion, not a cliffhanger.

  • I’m sure the season will end on a cliffhanger, most likely the Lucian Alliance’s attack on Earth.

    If Atlantis is still on Earth, would they use it to defend the planet, thus leading to a full-blown crossover on season 3?

  • Perhaps if there were cousins who married on the show, or a special NASCAR episode, something SyFy’s new audience could relate to?

    I’m enjoying it, I’d love to see it finish. I’d love to see the franchise move to a channel where the average viewer has a family tree which forks. Fine with me.

  • Sorry to be the bearer of bad news….but this is a bit overly optimistic, I’d say. The news just recently broke and most of the production team just got back from various trips recently. Obviously they’re going to try to find a way for things to continue. That doesn’t mean there’s any actual real chance of it happening. From what I’ve seen of what’s publicly available, Syfy was putting in about $40 million per season. That’s probably 2/3 of the budget based on comments made about how much it costs to make an episode. So we’re not talking about making up a small percentage of the production costs but rather the majority of it. And based on the ratings also having fallen in the international market, I’m not sure who they would go to in order to try to make it happen. Of the few where there may be enough population to give it a go, the show would likely be recast and English would become subtitles. So there’s really no chance of the show continuing as it is.

    Now they could potentially get an SGU movie together. However, they said they could tell the story in another season if they had to. That doesn’t bode well for a movie as that would mean cramming an entire season into the length of about 2 episodes. There’s just no way to do that well if they were being honest. If they could wrap it up in a movie and do it well, then all of the people who said it was moving forward too slowly would be completely justified. If they can’t do it well, then it shouldn’t be done at all. So it’s a real catch-22.

    Then there’s those that are probably thinking they could continue it as a web-show, but that’s completely unrealistic. Unfortunately for them, they do have a lot of talented actors on the show. They’ll move on quickly and wouldn’t likely be willing to work for the pay scale that would typically come with a web-based show.

    This basically leaves books and cartoons as the only way to actually tell the story how they want to tell it and continue the story. There’s little money prospect in either which means they’d likely lose the writers and much of the rest of the staff, leaving it as just a ghost of itself with other writers putting their own spin on things.

    So, this is likely the end of SGU in any similarity to it’s current form.

  • You know what bothers me isn’t so much that the show was canceled, but that its ends on a cliffhanger. That’s like a black thorn in the foot of the franchise – even Star Trek Enterprise, as weak as it was at times, had a finale (as TERRIBLE as it was) when it was canceled. I’m even okay with continuing the story in novel format ala the Star Trek TV series as long as the producers state that the novels are canon. I hope that we get more than a DVD movie to conclude it because this is a series that deserves more than just a rushed 2 hour job to conclude it…but then Farscape deserved more but that’s what it got…

  • Wow, isn’t that mythos, biggest sceptic of SGU? :) Welcome back. Long denial post, heh?

    Problem with your numbers is that they are pure speculation. You know where 40$ mil. number comes from? That’s right, Robbie when they started to shoot mentioned that ep cost 2$ millions without giving bigger details. That’s BS. Two parters, pilots – maybe. Regular – I really, really doubt that. Again, speculation how much SyFy covers – Brad in this article says that SyFy covers only portion of costs. Wow. How much they’re really spending? We *don’t* know. It could be half, could be 1/3. It is really speculation.

    So please, don’t dress you dislike of SGU like disguised objective criticism.

  • @ mythos

    These ratings you talk about are live ratings. The ratings that SyFy care’s about are live ratings. There are a lot of ppl who watch it via DVR — like myself. I can think of several channels who would want SGU — Showtime is one of those, and they don’t care about live ratings, only if people are paying a monthly fee to watch their favorite show. I know I would support SHowtime — or any other network — that takes on SGU! And hopefully they would keep the series for at least 3 more seasons, if not 5 more.

  • Mythos, you have a grand total of ZERO facts or verified information, therefore you have no “bad news” to be the “bearer” of. Just like everyone else, you have absolutely no clue what is going to happen to SGU (or SGA and SG1 for that matter). So please stop writing mega posts that try to make out like you know what you’re talking about when you clearly don’t.

    Also Lightmaker, it’s Jamie Bamber, not Jaime Barber.

  • @Pecisk – I’ve been here the whole time. And I’m not an SGU skeptic. I was pretty certain it would fail based on the facts of the falling ratings and the blatant disregard of the long-standing fans by the showrunners. That I turned out to be right isn’t because I knew anything that others didn’t, it was simply an educated guess based on what’s out there. But I also thought that it stood a chance for a third season because of MGM’s situation. As long as the show was making money, it seemed likely that both parties would go forward as MGM can use any solid revenue streams that it can muster. But clearly it wasn’t really making money. It’s those who think that SGU has any real chance of a future that are in denial. Who’s going to want a show that has poor ratings on a channel that’s supposed to be dedicated to it’s genre? I have no emotional attachment for or against SGU. I simply make guesses based on what’s out there. And I’ve seen nothing out there that shows any potential future for SGU. There’s just no reason for anyone else to pick it up and even if someone is willing, it would certainly mean budget cuts which would mean cast and style changes which would mean a much different show. Just accept the inevitable.

  • By the way, I’ve had a DVR for 10 years. It’s not that new of a technology. The DVR conversations were going on during SG1 as a reason for the drop in ratings. Seriously, get over it. SGU failed. It’s over. I’m sorry that the story won’t be told but they dug their own grave. It’s amazing that people are so intent on trying to pretend that the show didn’t fail when by all measurable means it did. It’s time to say goodbye to it. I’ve watched Stargate since it began and now, thanks to SGU failing to perform, it’s gone. The people whom did like SG1 and SGA have lost far more in all of this. But I still accept that it’s gone. Go out and experience life. Maybe you’ll find that most people aren’t actually self-loathing, psychotic, substance-dependent ticking time-bombs like SGU would have people believe. I don’t know any people, yet alone military, that are anything like anyone on SGU. And that includes the holocaust survivors that I know. The one exception is Eli. While not the best character, he was the only one that I found even remotely realistic. He was just a guy who was plucked out of a simple life and dragged into this..and he acted that way. The one good character on the show. The rest were a waste of air.

  • Until they strike the sets, there’s hope of some sort of follow up or moving the show somewhere else.

  • how about cw that would be great. its smallvilles last season i hate to say .then you can put sgu back on fridaynights in smallville time spot. heck any spot on cw would be great as long its back on the air

  • All I’m going to say is: this is a great piece of news to receive on Christmas Eve! Thank you GW for making my day even more awesome! Thank you Brad for being so loyal to SGU!

  • and what about some movies you havce been talkingabout for years .sga sg1 would be great

  • @ mythos … again.
    The DVR discussion has been in high gear ever since Atlantis, really. Maybe SG-1 too, towards the end, but I wasn’t online paying attention to SG-1′s ratings back then. But go back and see that with live+7 (DVR ratings) you will see improvement — if that was live, then we would have more seasons @ SyFy. Also, with Hulu there are a lot of people who want SGU via Hulu or even Netflix (my friend only has Netflix so he watches it that way). How many people watch it via Hulu or Netflix? No way of me knowing, but there are a few if not more. Don’t believe me? Fine, look on this web site and search yourself. Every ratings thread also says the DVR recordings will be. Plus, it was worse for me because not only do i work on tuesday nights but my wife watchs NCIS LA and often times she would be watching that when I get home instead of watching SGU. And you can’t tell me I am on the only one with this issue, because NCIS is one of the most popular shows on tv with over 20m viewers every week. It was a bad idea to put SGU in with that crowd.

  • MGM could always partner with someone like Sky or DirectTV, or someone else that gains from having SGU on the air to broadcast the show.

  • Well, didn’t SyFy buy the airing rights for the whole SG franchise for the US territory? Wasn’t that the reason why they couldn’t shop SG-1 around after SyFy canceled it? I doubt that SyFy would give up those rights just because SGU failed, with them they would lose the right to air any other future show/movie.

  • Why NOT get funding from a combination of foreign channels!? They all air it! Spirit of co-operation!

    In America, how about the channel G8?

    If they do a film format, there better damn well be MORE THAN 2 FILMS…. this story deserves a proper telling!

  • Could Syfy’s deal be moved to some of the other networks owned by NBC, like USA, NBC, or any other?

  • @Michael Sacal
    I was under the impression that Spartacus was shoot infront of a green screen so they could add a highly stylised visrual background, which lets face it adds greatly to the whole Spartacus experience. Also from what I understand, the budget for season 1 (13 eps) was about $35m-ish (One or the produces said they had about half the budget of ’300′ which was $70m)

  • why does it always have to be about the benjamines and why cant it be about the fans for a change all the stargates were great shows with great stories. i think syfy sucks for cancelling the shows like they did. I guess they have to have that wrestling crap on instead. i wont be watching syfy much anymore that is for sure. long live Stargate all of them, BSG and Caprica

  • “Perhaps if there were cousins who married on the show, or a special NASCAR episode, something SyFy’s new audience could relate to?”

    Lol, how about wrestling on board the Destiny?

    Seriously though, SGU needs to be finished properly, a Season 3 would do the trick nicely, wherever and whenever that happens, hopefully soon.
    Hopefully MGM realizes that SGU cannot be left hanging on a cliff, that would be bad for the franchise, as well as tick me, and many others, right off.
    2nd priority for myself would be to finish off SGA correctly.
    The SG1 story doesn’t really need any continuation, but of course it would definitely be a money spinner for MGM, and I would absolutely enjoy another installment for SG1.

    Good to see that the fan’s have shown massive support since the cancellation, and partially shut up the whingers.
    I would even be willing to pay a dollar or 2 to legally download the episodes (in decent quality, not only low res for handheld devices) as they are released, and I really believe that is an option MGM need to look at.

    MGM need to remove Syfy’s rights to Stargate entirely.

    So here’s hoping for a Happy new Year for SGU.

  • I really hope SGU can be continued on another station. Perhaps a third season could reach a conclusion, but it would be great if it could play out in five seasons like intended. If that is not possible, SGU movies should definitely take priority over anything else. While I would love to see both SGA and SG-1 movies, both of those storylines are wrapped up well enough in my opinion.

  • I was rewatching season 8 of SG1 episode Threads and notice that on one of the newspapers Daniel was reading, it had an article about the Wraith being on their way to Atlantis.

  • Of course, if MGM wishes to continue producing SGU as a live-action TV show and Syfy gets in their way, they can alwyas sue them to release the rights.

  • @sg1sga

    That refers to the last episodeo of the first season of Atlantis.

  • I don’t know what all the hub bubs about bub, but they’re saving the fanchise and the show, so fxxxxxx Awsome! Whoppie Muxxx Fxxxxxx! It’s all good, I got a few bucks to put towards the Amazon releases, since Itunes don’t want to sell me their material because I’m not Americano and just happens to be an Island boy. Who cares though, they should create an account we could charge via credit card to not only purchase our official copy of the mini-series or continuing series, but to help in production.

  • @blindfoldedbiker
    SGA storyline wrapped up? Are you kidding? They ended it with a wraith attack on earth, barely thwarted and Atlantis plonked in the San Francisco harbour. That is anything but wrapped up. What happened in Pegasus? Does the city stay there in the ocean forever? Do the public find out (like that doctor walking into the klingon ship in Star Trek IV)? Far from wrapped up.

    Still, SGU is going to be even worse. It really needs the story finishing in some fashion.

  • SGU’s story should take priority to have a film or some sort of conclusion over the other two (mostly because the other two won’t happen).

    As bad or rushed as you fans may have found it, both SG-1 and Atlantis WERE concluded without cliffhangers or anything less than open-ended threads. Would love to see more of them, but considering it has been getting on for three years…

  • I hope they decide to air it on another channel and keep the series going. I have enjoyed every episode of Stargate Universe so far!

  • I will miss SGU, but will hold on too some small hope that another network picks the show up.I still think we could of go 2 more seasons of SGA, then moved on to SGU.I would take at least 2 movies, and i would be happy(a little bit sigh!), I would rather have a third season, followed by a fourth and fith.What a joke, Stargate made the syfy channel, now we have too look forward to some cheesy saturday night b grade movies.
    Come on MGM/SYFY, do the right thing?

  • I understand why a fan of SGU would want to see it get a proper ending, but at this point, I’d rather we just swept SGU under the rug. The sooner we can get the franchise to rest, the sooner someone can come along and reboot it.

  • So glad Brad is showing such loyalty to the show.

    I get that some people dislike the show, that because it went in a new direction from SG1 and SGA that it has been condemned by some.
    But because it is a Stargate Franchise, it deserves to be allowed to finish its story effectivly, not on a cliffhanger! Even if this takes the form of a single season!
    Otherwise its an insult to the last 14 years of Stargate content…
    I personally like the SGU series and would love it to continue, prefably in another season or more. But even straight to DVD movie format if it must.
    Just let them wrap the story up in a dignified manner.
    Good luck Brad and the rest of the SG production team.

  • Tekrelm, no one gonna reboot it. With lot of licensed material from comics floating around, it is fat chance that anyone except Brad would want to touch SG ever again.

    And yes, SGU must get a proper ending – if SG franchise wants to countinue in any form.

  • 1. Quickly film a final conclusion for SGU – have the Destiny and all crew burn up in a star when refueling. MGM clean house at the helm of the SG franchise.

    2. Movie or mini series for SGA with new PTB at the helm

    3. Movie or mini series for SG-1 with new PTB at the helm

    4. A new fourth series with new PTB at the helm

  • @ blistna

    The live + 7 ratings of SGU were also bad in comparison to SGA. SGU’s live + 7 numbers are lower than the live + SD numbers of SGA!!!

    SGA season 5 averages:
    1.610 million viewers live + SD
    2.103 million viewers live + 7

    SGU season 2 averages:
    1.078 million viewers live + SD
    1.561 million viewers live + 7 (ep. 21-29)

  • @ Pecisk

    Why is that a harsh awakening for SGA fans? It was clear that the SGA movie wouldn’t be made for a loooooong time, before SGU even started!

    In the last few months Wright and Mallozzi only mentioned the SGA movie as a carrot to lure SGA fans to SGU. “You have to watch SGU. Otherwise you won’t get a SGA movie!”. That was always a lame try of blackmail, because the chance of a SGA movie was already non existent at that time.

    And of course most SGA fans, who stopped watching, did it, because they think SGU is a bad and boring series. And personally I think it is a very “good idea” not to continue watching a series, which you don’t enjoy.

  • I would love to see it on BBC or return to Showtime…where it all began…I think 1.5 million new subscriptions would be good for them…also when using rating systems you have to put them into perspective..I see people comparing Wearhouse 13?? huh, that is a summer show with NO competition, everything else during the timeslot is re-runs..but I do feal kind of a minority in that quality SCIFI shows can not seem to survive, but mindless, idiot shows abouns and flourish

  • I am sorry to see SGU go – it is a more intelligent (thoughtful) story line than the other SGs. The original series where in general a series of short stories while SGU is a long story told in parts. I would expect that the audience for SGU skewed older.

  • Don’t want to be rude, but do they realize they have another show this is also unfinished?! It seems a little unfair (although I was not happy to hear that SGU was canceled, because with it, we have a least something) because SGA was running a lot longer and in my opinion, it deserves a closure…

  • @psw well, tone of tweets and comments suggest otherwise. It was “Franchise will move on, give us SG-1/SGA movies now!”.

    Also, you forget to mention that SGU second season was hit by schedule change. It seems like SGA S5 and SGU S1 was on par :)

  • The way I see it is there are ‘at least’ two options the producers could pursue to keep SGU going into a third season:
    1- find a new network – Stargate has moved before. At the end of SG-1 season five they moved from ‘Showtime’ to SciFi’…. Could history not repeat itself…?
    2- Distribute SGU via direct downloads via apple itunes, amazon, or even through MGM….

    These two could be possbile channels to explore especially given that Brad Wright is now on record stating that the SyFy networks’ “license fee represented only a portion of our total budget” = they are not totally dependent on SyFy to continue SGU…. ;)

  • a copy of an email I just sent to CTVglobemedia:

    Hello,

    I am an avid fan of your channel “SPACE”

    This is a simple suggestion email.

    Recently, the american channel SyFy dropped a couple of good Science fiction shows.
    (and please,please don’t follow that failure that used to be Sci-fi, (now SyFy) and keep SPACE science fiction / science fact )
    Perhaps you could look into taking over the rights for those shows or partnering up with MGM to keep one or more of those shows going?

    Syfy announced they are making a new pilot based on the BattleStar Gallactica franchise, so I imagine it would be tougher to get control of those rights.

    But , Syfy seems to have canceled and shelved everything to do with the popular StarGate franchise!
    And with MGM doing a chapter 11 restructuring, you might be able to get the rights cheap..

    It would be great for a Canadian company to own this popular show that is mostly made here anyway.

    And it would go far towards confirming your brand as a real Sci-Fi channel.

    Thanks for your consideration,

  • Some sort of conclusion is a necessity. Nothing irritates me, and I’m sure a lot of other people too, more than a show that’s cancelled on a cliffhanger. It severly lowers the chance of me watching anything on the network again as I don’t want to invest in a series that never gets a proper conclusion and decisions like this show the network execs wont deliver that for me.

  • What I think is sad, is that Stargate “fans” are half of the reason it is cancelled. Look at all the messages and boards everywhere. At least half, if not more, of the messages that get left are “fans” of the show who either don’t watch it, never watched it, or never will watch it, or hated it. Most of them seem to hate the show because they link it with Atlantis getting cancelled. Their favorite show is gone, and Universe is replacing it, so they automatically throw a fit.

    I think those people aren’t “Stargate fans” They are “Atlantis fans” or “Sg-1″ fans. I am disappointed in those people. Look at the two past shows. They have some differences but are very similar. Esentially, Atlantis is SG-1, in another galaxy. The stories are similar, the enemies are similar, and characters are similar. I didn’t say the SAME, for all those that will pick this apart. The shows were good, in their own rite. They shouldn’t be compared to Universe. It is nothing close to those two. Universe is more of a “real” show. It,so far, has been mostly about the “human condition” and the story of us and how we treat each other. It is the same story that we have faced over our own history. It deals with Trust, fear, corruption, conspiracy, Secrets, even Love and other things that we can right now identify with. Everything to the look, the ship, the planets, the crew, etc, has a “real” quality about it. You have a captain of the ship, with real problems. Guilt and loss, watching everything he knows turning upside down and fall under the pressure. An alcoholic because he can’t deal with all of it. You would never see that in Atlantis or SG-1. The show is about learning too. You have a group of people stranded, just waiting to die but there is still hope.

    You don’t have a show that is so much concerned about wraith or aliens so much, or about saving the ship from aliens. It is more about what we don’t know, what we can’t see. To me that is my favorite part of the show. The fact that it is tackling issues other shows won’t dare to confront. They are confronting GOD or god. Now that we know it’s mission, we are excited. But I could still watch it without that. I want to know why Tamara had visions of her baby and the people that died on the planet. I assumed they were dead and so her baby too. But then they showed her the galaxy that she later saw from the ship. So we are talking about Wraith here, or planets we can go to. We are exploring the realm outside of possibility, outside of what we know. Or why is Rush seeing his ex wife when he was on the bridge? Was it the ship? Or was it the same type of thing happening to Tamara? Or Chloe turning into an alien. Maybe Destiny did it to her, or maybe the aliens did. But I don’t think she will be bad. I think her turning alien, is not in the aliens control. Either way, we really don’t know how that is happening or what will happen. Also, it’s challenging relationships, and those down on earth.

    There is just so many things to go on about, but my point was, with the exception of Chloe, you wouldn’t see any of that stuff on Atlantis or SG-1. It is a great show. I know you won’t see Universe find some warrior with dredlocks, to go take on a group of aliens in ridiculous “no-win” scenarios where he walks away, without a scratch or out of breath. You might not see the crew go down to a planet, where the city looks like it’s been painted and plastic looking, with fake trees and fake dirt. Where even the walls have been painted dirty instead of just being dirty. Or where you come to a city where everyone dresses like they are in Robin Hood, people dressed in ridiculous costumes to look like a medieval town. Or where A guy in the city drinks some kind of potion where all the people in the town worship him. Oh, and probably won’t see the crew down in a situation where they shoot all the bad guys, but none of them get shot.

    Universe has had half of the crew killed already, shuttle crashes, cheating, killing, sabotage, stabbing in the back, spies,etc. It’s not your happy Atlantis. I think we need more real shows like this. But you guys don’t. Terminator Salvation got complaints that it was to dark and gritty. I think that was the realist terminator yet.. We are too used to candy coating everything and making everything a reality show, that you people have forgot what makes real tv shows. With the exception of Chloe, and a couple other minor things, the show has a “real” feel to it. The ship is even dirty and worn, and things don’t work, as opposed to the beautiful Atlantis. Atlantis had that feel of Star Trek the next generation. All the outdoor sets looked like they were filmed indoors. Alot of the characters off Atlantis, all seemed to be comic book kind of characters. Either jolly townspeople or fantasy-ish type characters. Alot of the shows look just wasn’t realistic at all. It really seemed like a modern Star Trek. That didn’t make it bad. In fact i liked the show alot. I didn’t watch as much SG-1 but Atlantis was one of the better shows.

    Despite all the fake looking things or some of the things that were just dumb. But the writing and acting and stories were good.Now i can admit the first season was a little hard to follow. Especially since i didn’t see the episode where they introduced the rocks. So i was lost the first couple episodes. The first season to me, seemed like it bounced back and forth over where the show was going. It seemed like it didn’t have direction, everyone was trying to get destiny. Everyone was a liar, hiding what they wanted. Now it’s on it’s feet and running. And it has good potential.

    I was disappointed seeing one of the producers mention that they had hoped to make it to a third final season. I was hoping this show was going to be long term. So besides the die hard “fans” that won’t give Universe a chance, I want to know where the networks get their ratings from. NO ONE watches live tv anymore AT ALL!! In fact it is so bad now that people will watch a recorded show while they are recording a show. They don’t watch the one that is on tv right now, they prefer to watch something they recorded. I have one friend that hasn’t even watched the first season of V that she recorded. But she won’t be able to watch the second season because she hasn’t watched the first yet. And the same with other people. Stargate Universe might be on right now, but she can’t watch it. She has to watch the last episode first or it won’t make sense. So she might watch Spongebob right now instead of Universe. But what does that do? It kills the ratings for Universe. And when seasons keep getting broken up at different times, then changed days, it all goes to hell.

    I look at like this. When Sons of Anarchy season premieres, that tells me that other shows are premiering. So even if i wasn’t watching SYFY (died when it changed from SCI-FI) I would know that my shows are all coming back on. But then it all got screwed up. I didn’t even know Caprica was back on. In fact I thought the first season ended last year. When it came back on I thought it was the second season. That is because it started at a different time. In fact, Stargate Universe came on, starting it’s second season, so it didn’t make sense that Caprica was starting from the middle of the first season. It makes sense that all the shows would be on a similar shcedule. I think Fringe was brought back a week or two before it’s posted date. I didn’t even know Universe had changed days. I thought it was still on on Fridays.

    I don’t have tv right now, but i still do my part. I buy Universe episodes from Itunes, every friday, Until i found out the show wasn’t on friday anymore. Then I found out I could watch it for free. So not only do people not watch live tv anymore, they can watch it online free. So people that are poor can’t support the show they love. It’s too bad write in campaigns are so overused that it’s pointless to do them. SyFY is killing Sci Fi. The shows they put on now are pretty lame. I tried watching Haven, and just couldn’t, that was worse than Caprica or Universe. I can understand Caprica, just because i think it is in a different place than tv is right now. It is very dark and story driven that average watchers can’t watch it. I tried watching Warehouse 13 but it wasn’t that good either. SyFy wants funny, middle of the road SYFY. kind of like they don’t want to go balls out sci fi, yet they can’t go to cartoons. The name change says exactly what they are doing. They took science fiction and made it sound like spongebob. I can see old people in denture commercials saying syfy. I can see Battlestar Galactica SCI FI. So SYFY is attempting to tread safe waters now. They need to keep shows where the reality show people can still watch occasionally. Reality shows were the death of tv.

  • I know SG:U has its detractors and people have a right to an opinion. However some of these people never even watched the show. I am a firm believer in seeing something before I form an opinion. I have always stated season one started poorly however, it has found its feet now and is going nicely.

    I know many wanted the SG 1 and SGA style but let’s be honest even that way has limited life before every episode becomes the same and we know pretty much what is gonna happen before the opening titles.

    SG:U has taken a more grown up look at what Stargate could be and tried to achieve it. Wether it has or not is up to individual opinion.

    However one thing I do feel strongly about is that this series at least deserves to be concluded properly. Be that in a short film format or another series.

    Also as someone else mentioned Sky is a massive network it may well be worth approaching them to ask for support. They show it exclusively here in the UK so called SyFy doesn’t even get a look in here. All it shows here is legend of the seeker and Angel repeats.

    SG:U deserves it’s chance to finish I personally would liek to see that in the form of another season but a proper ending is a must.

  • We the Stargate fans need to band together, and try to support the Stargate community as a whole. I love all 3 series including SGU and was terribly disappointed to hear it was canceled. If you are a Stargate fan go buy the DVD’s and leave 5 Star reviews for everything Stargate on Amazon. Hopefully we could get a SGU wrap up season 3, some new SG1 and SGA movies… and a new series. Please, go 5 star review them now. =)

  • To the people who say that people who liked SG1 and SGA aren’t fans of Stargate because they don’t like SGU, you’re delusional. The older fans aren’t blind sheep that just follow anything that they decide to stick a Stargate label on. That’s the type of mentality that lead to the garbage drivel that made up 90% of SGU so far. If you would follow something just because you liked something with a similar name before, then you are the reason that SGU failed because there’s simply not enough of you. The producers fancied themselves gods and have now learned that they’re not. It’s that simple. A little humility will hopefully do them good. They now know that they can’t just do whatever they want. They have to answer to the fans. If they’re smart, they’ll respond to what the fans want and give it to them. If their egos are still too inflated, then they will dig in their heels and focus everything on trying to continue SGU at all costs and drive the whole franchise into the ground. If not, they’ll do a short run to try to find an avenue for SGU (it wouldn’t make sense to just toss it aside since they do have the sets, the cast, etc) and then move towards damage control with the fanbase and bringing Stargate back around to it’s former glory.

  • i hope that the producers won’t give up cause us fans would never give up…. any idea if there ‘save SGU’ petition going around? I hope so. I think Brad knows that us SG fans would try to surport the shows and movies in any way we can. good luck Brad… and happy new year to you all at gate world

  • I just don’t understand why they won’t look for other networks like CW or someone else to pick them up, I’m pretty sure there is a network out there that will accept the low budget price that they are working with for Syfy.

  • I agree they should look for another network, don’t mind about last SG1 film because the other 2 movies finished SG1′s story and SG1 ran for 10 seasons which is a lot longer than most things, however I would like it if they did they SGA film they promised because SGA left a lot of questions unanswered and didn’t really end the story and they definitely need to finish SGU, they made such a big deal about how they had to find some ultimate discovery in that so ending it after only 2 seasons would be really annoying. Hope they find away around the budget problems :)

  • @mythos

    Baah!

    @Hotsauz210

    Patty/Selma: “And he was played by the three greatest names in television history: Richard. Dean. Anderson.”

    RDA: “Did someone mention my names?”

    Sorry, couldn’t resist. That was a funny Simpson’s episode he was in. XD

    Watching the original Stargate feature film happens to be among the collection of my oldest memories, I’ve been a fan of the series for a good percentage of my life. So, yes… if they slap a Stargate logo on it I will watch it, read it or play it. :3

    I’ve enjoyed every bit of SGU, and am now looking forward to see how they continue the series further. (Okay, my one concession being I’m not all that enthusiastic about their choice of the handi-cam film technique, but I’m slightly off course there)

    Yes, I’ll be one of the first to admit that in all probability we won’t see Destiny’s mission fulfilled. Especially not when the franchise has been undermined by corporate execs who line there pockets while forcing us to “imagine greater” than “what iF?”.

    Maybe not SGU itself, but the franchise as a whole would benefit from a network change. SGU can survive such a move, though after being canceled once it’d be on some pretty shaky ground.

    All that being said, I do feel a bit of guilt and regret because I fall in line with those who rely on the internet or DVDs to be able to watch the show. Cable television is a luxury I’ve chosen to do with out. Though if I knew the show was doing so poorly, I would be on the phone with my local provider like lightning if there was some hope that in doing so I could contribute to save the show. After all, its not like they’re going out of their way to say “look guys, we think SGU is great but we can’t afford to air it because you’re not watching it exclusively on our network”.

    Heh, funny thought. They should start holding PBS style telethons:

    “We hope you enjoyed watching Stargate Universe. If you would like to continue to see the same quality programming on our network, please help support it with your donation by calling our telephone hotline at 1-800-555-1111. Operators are standing by!”

  • I hate the SyFy Channel so much. In the past several months they have canceled two of my most favorite programs: Caprica and Stargate Universe. What they have replaced these fine shows with does not belong on a Science Fiction network. Wrestling? Ghost Hunters? MORE FRAKKING WRESTLING?!? I’m done with SyFy forever.

  • SAVE IT! SAVE SGU PLEASE! I’M TIRED OF ALL THE OTHER NONSENSE ON T.V.! AT LEAST THIS IS SCI FI. PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WILL WATCH “THE HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY” BUT CAN’T WATCH SGU? BLAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  • PLease give up, rather than slowly changing stargate atlantis slowly to focas more on Good characters from that show who we really don’t know that much about. you shoved a bunch of lame characters on us and forced us to care I guess …. Don’t do it again I am happy the show is gone. I much rather learn more about ronin or tela back story than those freaks. Hell anybody on SGA except rodney he had to many shows about only him already.

  • i could not be more upset about the cancellation of this show. those crying for sgu to be a clone of sga and sg1 do not understand the importance of not being repetitive and mundane. as for the syfy channel, the channel itself is a disgrace to the sci fi genre. anyone who thinks “wresting” is science fiction cant be too brite anyway. with this move, the syfy channel has lost my support completely. please cont sgu even if in dvd form only.

  • OH MY!! I just read about the cancellation of SGU.To be honest I didn’t know what to think of the series at first I watched SGU,and gave it a chance,and now I like SGU and just bought the 1st season dvd box.And now that I like SGU syfy channel canceled SGU.Well its does not make the channel very popular doing things like this.I feel for the cast,because they did their best and gave all they had.Maby they can find another network for SGU so it can finish the story.I hope that another network will take SGU and give it that chance,because it deserves a chance.I dont understand syfy and it looks like they have something against Stargate.If they put SGU in the middle of NCIS or other popular series then that was a big misstake and SGU indeed will go down,because NCIS is extemeley popular,and if people still have to grow on SGU then syfy has giving SGU a rope to hang itself and die.I do not like that.
    But I do hope they can finish and make a good end, and to be honest. I hope Brad not only will try to safe SGU ,but also make that Sg-1 movie with Jack as promised and the SGA movie I am still looking forward to those 2.I wish the cast lots of success and hope they get another season to fisnish their story.

  • All I can say is that I really hope the producers find a way to finish the story.They deserve the chance,the story and the characters deserve it and in the end the fans who liked the show deserve it.
    No matter what,I still have the outmost respect for the Stargate producers and all they’d given us during the last 13 years.
    Everything that’s been said about the new ways and revenues of watching tv is true,we live in such age.
    Essentially what gives me hope is that I see there is considerable number of people out there who understand and like,even prefere cerebral,smart,character driven shows.
    Now all we can hope our nuemrs will rise and we’ll get what we want.Sci-fi shows that make you think,as opposed to ones with kicking the bad guys ass,where all is black and white and shallow..somewhat like a cliche western movie.
    BSG and Caprica where smart and realistic shows,truly exploring the human condition..SGU,I think was on a good path to get there.So,of course that the masses couldn’t just embrace that and the network made a business decision.
    Here’s hoping that is about to change and sci-fi genre’s always been the avangard,so that hope may not be just a full’s hope!

  • I really hope they are talking to DirecTV because DirecTV picked up the last few seasons of Friday Night Lights and the last season of Damages, which I can’t wait for. So why not pick up SGU that way maybe entice more customers to get satellite, albeit I already have DirecTV. Hell maybe they will go back to Showtime SciFi Fridays LOL, remember those anyone?

  • Saxgod syfy owns the rights to broadcast stargate universe mgm owns the stargate name. so directv would have to buy out mgm and syfy and i don’t think they will do that on how bad the ratings were.

  • Get us a third season of SGU I don’t care how you do it ill pay for movies on dvd and blu ray just get us a third season! Please don’t let this be the end of SGU!

  • It makes me sad that this is the last season, especially after finding out Destiny had an original mission. Things really started picking up in the second season and became my favorite over that of SG1 and SGA which both I’ve watched from start to finish.

    I’ll admit I didn’t watch any of the second season on cable, because I didn’t have it. I was always working and rarily was at home. So I didn’t have cable all together. I would either watch them on SYFY rewind, and youtube had the episode on there as well. Now being overseas I have no choice other than waiting for the DVD’s (Which I’ve already baught the first season on blueray)

    Thing is the live cable ratings is stupid and inaccurate. Majority of my friends who watch SGU, especially when it aired on friday nights, would be forced to go out with their girlfriends or wives. So we would either get together and watch it on DVR, or I would watch the parts on youtube when I had the time.

    SGU I think offers more into the whole being in space aspect that few other shows or movies have been able to capture.

    I will say the show and its viewers didn’t fail, it was your advertising campaign, time slots, and poor information going out to its fans.

    SGU spread like wildfire in my company when one person who knew I loved the SG series was reading up on it, and just randomly saw there was talk of a new series called SGU.

    Sadly if this series ends like this, I wouldn’t even suggest anyone new to watch it. It’d be pointless without a conclusion. If they want to make money off of the work they have already done, bottom line is they need to conclude it somehow . Otherwise its just going to be forgotten and leave a lot of viewers bitter and loose trust in MGM. SGU was the only thing I would watch anymore on SYFY. For all I care now that its cancelled, they can delete SYFY off my cable listing when I get it again. I honestly wont miss it…

    Agno`


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