58 Responses

  1. Benny-Gun
    Benny-Gun
    (2 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    Wonder how they will figure this one out.

  2. Sinderg
    Sinderg
    (1 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    wonder if its in his contract to say
    “these are the wrong people” every ep :p

  3. kenny
    kenny
    (54 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    Ahhh yes. SGU-A Space Soap Opera. Here we start again with the BSG crap. Have to check here first to see if the kids should watch tonight’s Ep. I am counting. Two eps so far using sex to sell the show. Really, who could think of sex when your life is about to end unless you take swift and decisive action. Oh yes. The writers and SciFy could. Wish this was a family show again. Everyone sure argues and back-stabs a lot in this show. I am wondering how much management will be using this ploy for ratings instead of action.

  4. Mentat
    Mentat
    (141 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    This ship will fly into a star so you kids better get busy and start necking. LOL Just as predicted.

  5. andrewdavis218
    andrewdavis218
    (1 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    If SGU does not get its act together I am going to stop whatching. sex is not needed and usually used to cover a weak plot. I own all the sg1 seasons and atlantis seasons but so far I will not be buying SGU.

  6. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    I wondered how long it would take for this to yet again be another article for SGU venting.

    How long are you guys going to keep it up?

  7. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    Love the show so far. The visuals are stunning, the characters are real. And there’s none of the usual techno babble – only real science! Of course it is a bit sad that the spirit of adventure and exploration is gone so far, but where it lacks with that it gives back in other areas, namely that the show is not as naive as other SG ones. It’s a different show, and the talk of a “broader audience” scared me at first, but I’m loving it so far, watching each episode a couple of times, and looking for every bit of info on the next ones! I hope when they have resolved all of their issues with the ship and themselves, the show will pick up speed again (as the first two parts where really dynamic).

  8. trowells
    trowells
    (1 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    I actually really like this show. It is very different from Stargate and Atlantis but u know what that’s fine bc change is good. Keep in mind that they are trying to get their footing and get started so things are weird but its going to just keep getting better. And a character driven show makes for great tv viewing. So it kind of takes a page from BSGs book but it will come into its own. You naysayers just need to give it time. I seem to remember ppl complaining about Atlantis too when it first started. Put everyone in their place too. so just give it time.

  9. arnoldrimmer
    arnoldrimmer
    (67 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    The visuals are stunning??? putting one to sleep

    that movment was Cool as Quentin tarentino did a ER Episode but that is 10 years old…

  10. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    I’ve seen almost every sci-fi series there is (except LOST – hate it) as far back as Star Trek TOS, and I do think they are stunning. The ship looks real and really old. Makes me think a bit about Farscape. This whole whinery is the same as with the new Star Trek movie, “fans” get annoyed that someone messed with “their” “canon”, forgetting it belongs to the writers who have their “licencia poetica”, and a right to evolve. I was sceptic at first, but I sunk right into it.

  11. SGUfanatic
    SGUfanatic
    (13 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    I have read a lot of complaints about the romantic aspects of the show as well as with where the show is going. As has been stated before, the people on the Destiny were not supposed to be there, the original intent was for those trained to go after the 9th Chevron was established, that didnt happen for reasons we all have witnessed. These are people learning to cope with situations they were not prepared for. Romances, alliances, survival are all part of the human element. Give them time and if you do not like it, then please do not watch. As a franchise expands there will be differences but the creators of SGU stated they wanted a different feel and I for one like it. The first season of any new show takes time to build and the characters to form. Those that complain against Chloe hopefully will remember that SHE should not have been there either, give the girl a chance and you may be surprised. My son is the same age as Scott and in the military, has leadership role and had the same anxieties that Scott does, I can relate where they all are. Thanks for putting up with my comments everyone. I love this show.

  12. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    To be honest can please just talk about the episode this article is about instead of everyone’s opinion of SGU in general. Every SGU related articles comments before this one have been the same and didn’t really touch upon the episode the article was originally about.

  13. Mentat
    Mentat
    (141 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    The LOST question. I was wondering when that would come up. The technique in Lost is to break into previous character situations. Have we seen this before? Lets get the stones out. Let’s just flip back and forth. And throw in some “understandable” horny-dog sex scenes the fans will surely love.

    No. Between the barf cine-photography and the 90210 groveling this had the potential to be a good show. Some characters are good with Carlyle putting on his Hitler face very so often. But the producers are just not respecting the franchise and milking their cash cow to the end. Sure they’re pulling in numbers, that’s what quantity over quality is by definition designed to do. DS9 ran for years in JTS mode.

    This is cheap Wall Street sci-fi. Sure ain’t BB5. Nothing to see here, please move on.

  14. Outbreaker
    Outbreaker
    (38 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    Looks like a other lame episode.
    SGU is good if you can’t sleep.

  15. cryospark
    cryospark
    (1 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 7:14 pm |

    anyone else figure the ship that travels such a long time has its own way of recharging its power using the solar energy of the sun.
    seems like its a pretty smart ship, probably purposely headed that way

  16. DarkElfa
    DarkElfa
    (69 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    I love the show as well. For those who don’t, be gone, no sense wasting your time and resources complaining about things that won’t be changed just for some disgruntled viewers, you’re just bringing down the moral of the rest of those who enjoy it.

    Tanith, don’t waste your time, their minds were made up long ago, now they’re just venting every chance they get in hopes of ruining everyone else’s fun.

  17. SGUfanatic
    SGUfanatic
    (13 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 8:42 pm |

    Grrr tonight is one of those times I really wish I lived on the East coast.LOL I still have to wait a little over 3 hours to watch Light. “sigh”

  18. clarkfk
    clarkfk
    (5 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 10:04 pm |

    You know the best part about SGU, aside from the predictable script? The beautiful fact that I can watch the first 5 minutes of the episode, go find something else to do for the next 50 minutes, and then come back and watch the last 5 – and not miss anything important.

  19. wnelson
    wnelson
    (11 comments)
    October 23, 2009 at 11:59 pm |

    Okay, here comes the nasty part first. Tanith, you may love the show, but believe me when I say trying to tell nay-sayers to shut up is a losing battle. You have to roll with the punches on that one. People won’t look at SGU as a standalone series, there is baggage, it’s the way it is.

    Right now the episode. Quite frankly as soon as the story in ‘Darkness’ hit that it was doing some sort of ‘slingshot’ manouvre I thought that’s how power is recharged. By the end I knew it was the sun that would do that. Very poor script writing. The problem is that these simple and childish ‘plot developments’ have only occured so that the writers can do character development. This is the very core of the problem.

    Character development either has to be masked and natural in a series OR open and honest that the plot points are incidental. The problem is that the later of the two make a show a soap opera.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. SGU is a victim of a large budget. The writers obviously see that they can get some great vis effects (which BTW I don’t like….give me good high quality model shots over CG any day) and therefore can rely on what people do see as opposed to what they don’t.

    As a stage-writer I find it highly disappointing that the TV and Film industry have not taken a leaf from the stage world. Lower budgets and TV-jaded audiences have FORCED us to be far more creative. It is sad to see that such a strong production team are trying to find excuses to tell the story of the characters.

    Finally, RE the sex scenes. I find it staggering that the re-cut version of ‘Children of the gods’ had the nudity removed and yet, SGU made the same kind of mistake in it’s initial season. Luckily, I’ll be watching back in the UK soon and due to the show airing at 8pm rather than the usual 9pm, those scenes have been removed!

  20. Rush Fan
    Rush Fan
    (1 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 12:00 am |

    I for one really loved to nights episode. I thought the sex scene which might I add we did not see that much of was very realistic considering the they have bond in the last few days and they did not think that they were going to make it. While I agree that how they got out of trouble was predictable the way that it went about was not.

  21. Skwalla
    Skwalla
    (1 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 12:34 am |

    I think Dr. David Rush is a Lucian Alliance…
    it got reviled to soon

  22. Blitzo
    Blitzo
    (8 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 1:31 am |

    There is nothing wrong with having a few sex scenes seriously…
    SG-1 and SGA were all adventure oriented shows and were actually quite predictable once you started getting into the second season onwards. Don’t get me wrong, I loved this predictableness, but you shouldn’t be looking for ways to bash SGU because it’s different.

    I personally think the show is brilliant thus far (though to get a proper gauge we should wait until the start of the second season), it combines the legacy which is the Stargate franchise with a whole new dimension of characters, themes, maturity and most importantly camera work.

  23. SGUfanatic
    SGUfanatic
    (13 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 1:44 am |

    I thought tonight’s episode was wonderful, even though we all pretty much figured out how the ship would recharge itself, I still felt it was well done. The sex scenes were there to show 2 people that have come to mean alot to each other saying goodbye just as was previously mentioned. The way that the others made peace with others and with themselves was masterful. Even my husband who hasnt really cared for the show so far said that this episode was really good. They did the space, shuttle, and ship scenes as believable as other shows out there. Keep up the great work all on SGU, now I have to wait another week again LOL

  24. washingtonmonumentinmypants
    washingtonmonumentinmypants
    (1 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 2:21 am |

    I vote for less action below the waist and more action in outer space. For drama to work you need more leadership. These guys are scripted as morons. It took an entire episode to close a door? Your second in command military guy has banged to woman on this ELITE team within a week? What? It doesn’t make sense. Also, everybody is complaining and being so self centered when team work is requisite? Was this script the result of computerized random plot generator? Do you think people who dig sci fi has the emotional intel of amoebas? I think sg1 a/o atalntis had more action in one episode than this universe will have in the eintire season. More action! Less AFSOC cry babies who process stress with sex.

  25. AbstractAlien
    AbstractAlien
    (53 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 5:05 am |

    Nice visuals, music and characters…but the plots/stories themselves leave alot to be desired, very predictable. If they can get decent more innovative stories this series will be great IMO. Still early days though..

  26. Piernik
    Piernik
    (45 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 7:23 am |

    FACT: SG:U is 10 times better than SG:A!

  27. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    (177 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    We’re all going to die! Let’s try to save each other with our groins!

    Realistic? Hardly.

  28. wganubis
    wganubis
    (118 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    3 Things.

    2. In my opinion the “we’re all going to die so lets send 15 people off!” was too soon in the show for my tastes. We haven’t connected to any of the characters (save maybe math boy) to really care who lived or who died.

    3. Destiny can fly into a sun to replenish its energy… so then why has the ship taken such a pounding? Surely if the shields are powerful enough so that those on the inside didn’t notice an increase of heat or the turbulence from the sun and so forth surely the shields would be powerful enough to laugh at anything thrown at them both natural and artificially created.

    Im still holding out hope for the show, but any changes to the characters needs to start to be seen before any mid season break otherwise the show is going to lose views due to disinterest and bad acting.

  29. NavyGater
    NavyGater
    (6 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    I mean come on if they have those damn stones lets get Samantha And Rodney out there stat!!! Oh and Piernik its way to early to say that SGU is better then Atlantis, I Have every season of SG1 and SGA all the movies and still so far will not be getting SGU on dvd…

  30. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    All you naysayers almost got to me… but fact is, it was an awesome (albeit a little predictable) episode!

  31. DarkElfa
    DarkElfa
    (69 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    No changes need to be made to this show at all, its great as it is. What needs to be changed is the legal trolling limit on these comment boards.

  32. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    (177 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    If the writers wanted to have a more intelligent and mature show they should have written intelligent and mature characters and stories. Instead they think more sex and love triangles will make the show more mature. They took the most boring aspects of battlestar and none of the good ones. lol.

  33. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    What is it with you people and sex? Sounds like half of the people here cannot relate to a story with something as basic as that… Come on, if so then you can at least relate to Eli being dumped in favour of the muscle guy! nudgnudgewinkwink.

  34. krdstargate
    krdstargate
    (15 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    wow…all of the people writing these positive reviews must be cast members. There was absolutely no plot in this episode, but then again I guess there really has not been a plot on any of the episodes to date. It seems that all the characters in this show are there just to look pretty. We have a lot of melodrama, but nothing happens.Every episode seems to be the same, a problem occurs, people act like idiots, and then in the last minute the ship, yes the ship saves the day. At least on SG-1 and SGA an actual person saved the day. And dont get me started on Chloe. I am sorry what happened to all the talk about developing relationships and emotions. Instead you have Chloe and Scott shacking it up in the first 2 minutes of the episode, the first 2 minutes!!!Before this Chloe and Scott shared one moment at the end of Air 3, and all of a sudden they are shacking up!!! Oh but wait, she still isnt done with Eli, then wait no she is back with Scott. Was there anyone who didnt see the Eli-Chloe-Scott love triangle coming. Oh yeah and Greer also gets naked. And I find it unusual that the military personnel in this show do not seem to act like military. In fact the military personnel are shown being more disrespectful than the civilians, and the civilians are shown being the calm headed people. Can the writers please get the people on this show to actually do something rather than sitting around moping all the time. I keep watching the show hoping it will become stargate someday. But I am beginning to think that that will not happen. I cant believe this was a two parter.

  35. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    Well I’m smack in the middle of Europe…
    Anyway, here’s a “quote”:
    Science fiction is an existential metaphore, that allows us to tell stories of the human condition. Isaac Asimov once said “individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinder critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, it’s essence has become crucial to our salvation. If we are to be saved at all.”
    If you read any of Asimov’s books, or the works of Arkadij and Boris Strugatsky, or 70’s an 80’s Nebula and Hugo prizes winners you’d know that good sci-fi IS in fact meant to describe us, humans, the connections betweens us, and ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances. SGU is doing just that, putting regular people, with regular (even sometimes naive) problems and issues. And so far it’s been really great about doing it. If you stop looking for flashy battles, shootouts and people playing soldiers, you’ll notice there’s plenty of story there – in the characters.

  36. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    Meant as:
    SGU is doing just that, putting regular people, with regular (even sometimes naive) problems and issues into an extreme environment (I for one might also be “not sorry at all” if I was on that ship).

  37. krdstargate
    krdstargate
    (15 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    “SGU is doing just that, putting regular people, with regular (even sometimes naive) problems and issues. And so far it’s been really great about doing it. If you stop looking for flashy battles, shootouts and people playing soldiers, you’ll notice there’s plenty of story there – in the characters.”

    The problem with what you have said is that flashy battles, aliens and good old military saving the day is what made stargate actually stargate. Stargate was all about exploration, incredible and unbelievable science, and aliens. There are lots of shows out there about human emotions, relationships, drama, discussion about our existence, like i dont know Grey’s anatomy. If they wanted to call this show lost in space or stranded on a spaceship fine, but no this is STARGATE.
    It is like someone complaining that seinfeld makes fun of serious issues like breakups, or death or unemployement and that they should try to be more serious and show the difficulties of real life. But Seinfeld is a comedy, that is why they give a humorous presentation of everyday life. If they started to be more realistic it would not be Seinfeld. In the same way, I understand that people will have emotions, desires, fear, anguish and personal issues. But that is not what stargate is about. Stargate was always about expanding your imagination, exploring new territory, and yes aliens and gun battles. You cant take the heart of Stargate out and expect it to still be Stargate.

  38. whirleeq
    whirleeq
    (1 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 6:28 pm |

    I’m really surprised that so many people dislike this series so much. Was the sex scene between Chloe and Scott gratuitous? Sure, maybe. The love triangle between Chloe, Scott and Eli predictable? Yeah, perhaps… the solar recharge original? Maybe not… but what grips me about this series isn’t so much the plot, but the characters. You feel Eli’s pain as he sees Chloe seeking warmth from Scott right over his shoulder. And Camille… oh Dr. Jing-Mei, you’ve always been so expressive. Her desperation cut through beautifully as she argued with Young about who should and shouldn’t be chosen for the shuttle. Lastly, Dr. Rush. I love him. Can’t help it — firstly, because he’s Robert Carlyle. Secondly, because he’s quietly nefarious and so far on the side of genius that he considers the human element beneath him. Every action he takes and every word that he speaks is laced with duplicity. I think as the series progresses, he will definitely become my favorite character.

    No, the series isn’t Stargate SG1 or even SGA. And perhaps the only thing that is ‘Stargate’ about it is the mechanism that put them into their current situation. But I don’t care if it breaks from the mold; I like the show regardless, and I can’t wait to see where the writers are going to take it.

  39. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 6:55 pm |

    “Stargate was always about expanding your imagination, exploring new territory, and yes aliens and gun battles. You cant take the heart of Stargate out and expect it to still be Stargate.”

    As I said before, you disturb the “canon” and fanboys start complaining. I think SGU is closer to the heart of the first movie. In all honesty, you can’t expect that the writers to try and do the same stuff over and over again for decades, until they milked that cow dry. It’s new, it’s different, it’s still entertaining and its sci-fi! I would never think that science fiction fans can be so… ghasp… conservative! Besides, I think the spirit of exploration will still be there, watch the ending of the pilot again, when they step through the gate to “tatooine”, it’s there allright. And it may only be a good thing that there won’t be any human-like english speaking aliens! I don’t want brain implants, universal translators, brain slugs whatever! Let them try to achieve contact in a more elaborate way! Besides, not being an english native speaker, I find the idea that the whole damned universe has to speak english a bit… annoying.

  40. krdstargate
    krdstargate
    (15 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    Let me just say that every one has a right to their a opinion. If you like the show then okay, you like the show. Me personally I dont like the show.

    However, the statement that scifi fans who dont like SGU are conservative, is simply ridiculous. I am not a conservative sci fi fan. I like different types of sci fi shows like firefly, star trek, eureka, stargate, sliders, etc. Most of these shows were completely different. But I enjoyed them immensely. However, I am conservative in that I would like the spinoff of a particular show to actually be based on the same concept, otherwise how is it a spinoff?? I have no problem with sci fi shows having drama, anguish, relationships, and sex (gratuitous or otherwise), etc. However how does a show that has nothing to do with the Stargate and exploration be called Stargate. Star trek had numerous spinoffs, but all of those spinoffs still dealt with issues of human nature, aliens, had klingons, romulans, etc. Each star trek was different, yet familiar, yes even DS9 and Enterprise. SGA was different from SG-1, but both were Stargate at heart. I go back to my original example. If after 9 seasons of Seinfeld, someone decided that they wanted to continue Seinfeld but take in a different direction, and I dont know introduce more drama, more pain, and make it more realistic, everyone would think they were crazy. Why? Its not because people dont think that breakups are difficult in real life or that someone dying is nothing to laugh about, but because making Seinfeld into a drama more realistic would make it no longer Seinfeld. Not because there is something wrong with drama. I am saying the same thing. There is nothing wrong with trying to be more realistic. I just dont understand how this show is Stargate.

  41. redfox000
    redfox000
    (32 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 7:34 pm |

    Is this stargate universe? Oh, my bad, I haven’t seen them go through the stargate more than once (outside of the first episode). Why not just call it universe, because obviously we are not going through the stargate much (you know, the whole we don’t have the power that they say every freaking episode).

  42. redfox000
    redfox000
    (32 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    I would like for the title of the series (the Stargate) to at least be a player in 4 out of 5 episodes. It is STARGATE afterall. If they wanted to make this type of show fine, but why market it as a STARGATE spinoff when it clearly is NOT.

  43. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 8:38 pm |

    I felt the same way when Rayman 3 and those godawful Raving Rabbits came out! Difference here is that this show is actually good, and those games where horrible and dumbded down (yes, from time to time I play childish games, sue me!)… Now, I think you people forget something. The Stargate franchise doesn’t belong to you… Those people, the show’s writers took us on a 15 years long adventure with SG1 and SGA… I think that would count as something, especially when you can clearly see they’re tired with the SG routine, and wanted to create something new, while still giving you a good Stargate-related show… They just as well could’ve gone and write some teen-angst highschool drama, vampire related series or some other piece of bull. And I can relate to that, as I make games myself, and I can tell you that spending so much time on a single idea without letting it evolve as you as a creator evolve is a nightmare! Why shouldn’t they call it “stargate”? It’s their world, and if they say it’s Stargate, then it’s Stargate!

  44. krdstargate
    krdstargate
    (15 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 8:46 pm |

    So I guess Joss Whedon can call Dollhouse Firefly tomorrow and everyone should simply accept it as Firefly.
    “The Stargate franchise doesn’t belong to you… ”

    The viewers and fans are what made Stargate last on air for 15 seasons.

    Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It’s just not my Stargate. I am okay with drama, and relationships in sci fi shows like Eureka. However, in my Stargate I would like them to actually shoot some aliens every now and then.

  45. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    Have said this before: If you don’t like SGU then why are you still watching?

    Seriously guys listen to the Gateworld podcasts I couldn’t put what they say about SGU any better myself.

  46. krdstargate
    krdstargate
    (15 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    And I have said before: Because it is called Stargate, and I keep hoping that it will get better.

  47. AbstractAlien
    AbstractAlien
    (53 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 11:14 pm |

    @Jan Vetulani,

    you kidding ? sci-fi fans are some of *the* most conservative and narrow-minded people out there, most have limited views of what they want and lack real imagination and creativity. I bet if someone did the most weird, creative and out there show – people would moan about it cos it lacks charactersation, realism and drama… its funny cos its true.

  48. mattcci
    mattcci
    (31 comments)
    October 24, 2009 at 11:15 pm |

    Let me start off by saying, as others have, that I am long term Stargate fan. I’ve watched every episode, and have all 15 seasons on DVD. I had high hopes that Universe would be a continuation of the Stargate that I love. I did not buy into negative hype, and came into the show expecting to like it.
    That said, I have been sorely disappointed. This show is boring and makes little sense. The plots holes are so large that it takes real effort to try and ignore them all and the characters are, well, just ridiculous.
    First of all, what happened to portraying the military in a positive manner? The soldiers on this show are whiny and insubordinate to a fault. Can you imagine how General Hammond, Landry, or even Weir would deal with these soldiers? I very much second the point made previously, about the second in command jumping some college girl a couple days into a major crisis. Come on. (I’m not against sex, nor am I conservative. But if it is a crazy busy day at the office, and I saw someone having a go with his secretary on his desk rather than working, I would question his judgment.) Why were soldiers this unstable and this unprepared even involved in the Stargate program? Are we truly supposed to believe that a medic so qualified she got to work off-world for the SGC would whine constantly during a crisis that she should be in school? I think your average elementary school nurse would have more appreciation for the gravity of Destiny’s situation than that girl does.
    Secondly, I understand the point the writers are trying to beat us over the head with, “these people aren’t prepared” for this type of mission. But come on…a random selection of people walking down the street could work together more effectively than the “crew” of the Destiny. Sitting around playing cards and praying rather than trying to figure out what was wrong with the ship? It is amazing people this ready to accept death even bother to get out of bed in the morning.
    I know other people have talked about it, but the communication stones are just bad for this story. Come on. If they really thought the ship was doomed every single stone would be being used so all of earth’s most Ancient knowledgeable experts were aboard Destiny trying to save the crew. Why isn’t a stone being used by a Doctor to treat the power guy limping around on a cane? If you are going to give the crew these communications stones, then they have to be used in a manner that is at least approaching logical.
    Stargate has always been a little campy. Willing suspension of disbelief is necessary. (I mean, all the aliens speak English.) But, the Stargate universe has always operated logically based upon its own established facts. So far, this show is just improbable and stupid. The SGC used to be composed of the best and brightest, even if they had personality quirks. This show could better be titled “The Shortbus goes to Space.”
    I could go on, but I guess my biggest point is just my disappointment. I’ve enjoyed Stargate since Showtime years and years ago. I’ll give Universe awhile, probably all season. But, I don’t want to watch a TV show that is just going to leave me disappointed, confused, and sad every week.

  49. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    So anyone feel like talking about ‘Light’?

  50. bluecat
    bluecat
    (6 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    This has got to be the most badly written episode I’ve ever seen on television of any kind of show.

    At the end of the last episode where they’re flying towards the sun, i imediately thought “ah the ships going to recharge itself”. Not a big deal, why didn’t the crew on board think that, we’re already got stuff in space that uses solar energy so it’s not a huge leap to think that a race that can build the Destiny would have a more advanced method of recharging *sigh*

    As for the line “i feel we’ve bonded these last few days” well sorry luv but you haven’t. You’ve barely spent any time at all talking to each other. That was terrible writing, at least develop some kind of relationship before just creating one from thin air.

    But the worst part was the forced mistrust of Dr Rush at the very end. I’m sorry but that was cringe worthy.

    I had so many high hopes for this series, but so far it has not delivered anything that deserves to hold the name of ‘Stargate’. As i’ve said before i’m pretty sure that if it hadn’t been attached to the stargate franchise it would not have made it past the pilot. A show must carry itself not try to balance on the shoulders of whatever got it there in the first place. And as a stand alone TV series it most certainly does not.

    Note to writers: The whole ‘letters to home’ idea of recording individuals last words. It was alright for one episode but to have it in every single bloody one, and also the pointless obligitory flashback.

  51. wnelson
    wnelson
    (11 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Okay, I’ve said before about how too much money has been thrown at this show, but having re-watched the episodes to date, I’m finding the show even worse.

    People have been moaning on about not buying DVDs, well upon watching again I can tell you I agree. Using a PVR I’ve spun through at least half of the episodes because I got bored.

    Even if we assume that this is all just a series finding it’s feet, I have serious doubts about if this show is even meant to suceed. This brings me back to a conclusion I made after watching the first episode. This SGU is meant to kill the franchise stone dead. It is a vehicle through which the creators can say ‘look we threw loads of money and publicity at it and it didn’t work, so we won’t be doing any more stargate’.

    There is just no other possibilty. I would have watched the show regardless of content, as long as there was promise. We know that the writers are intellegent. We know that the casting team is good, heck we know that the whole crew is good at what they do. So why is SGU failing to deliver something I want to watch?

  52. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    (36 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    Go and look at the ratings, which so far are higher then Atlantis and still climbing. I usually don’t trust stats of that kind thinking the general public is no smarter then a chimp with with a gun, however, this is a sci-fi liking crowd we’re talking about… I think the answer to your question is pretty simple… it’s not the show, it’s you.

  53. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    @wnelson The creators can see into the future now?

    By your logic they threw money at the series but after looking into the future they see that it doesn’t work so there gonna just end Stargate.

    People do know that they shoot most (If not all) of the season before its even aired right?

  54. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    (177 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    No, the ratings started below a 2.0 and are staying below a 2.0. Atlantis had better ratings for two seasons before getting into the range Universe is now.

  55. Tanith
    (60 comments)
    October 25, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    @Imitation Tofu

    Atlantis in the beginning had the advantage of having SG-1 still on the air (back to back) and thus fans tuning in to watch both, There was no cries over a cancellation to result in people not watching Atlantis and I don’t believe that Atlantis was in a Friday Night time slot (Which to be frank is one of the worst time slots to be in).

  56. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    (177 comments)
    October 26, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    Nope, Atlantis was always on Friday nights.

    The producers could have aired Atlantis and Universe together like they did with SG-1 and Atlantis. They chose not to. The understandable fallout from that decision is on them.

  57. arnoldrimmer
    arnoldrimmer
    (67 comments)
    October 26, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    Were the smeg was the Scifi part??
    The worst “Sea Quest” Episode was better than that Story.

    Sorry thats just lost but not on an Island just on a Spaceship.

    Ever read a Good Bradbury, Arthur .C. Clark, Sagan Book? Thats Scifi SGU is just Mainstream PPL interaction-trash.

    This will be the first Scifi Series I will not buy since TNG,Voyager,DS9,Babylon 5

  58. sledgehammer
    sledgehammer
    (20 comments)
    October 27, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    @Jan Vetulani what the hell are you talking about ratings for? As “Imitation Tofu” rightly pointed out the rating for SGA were much higher, correct me if I’m wrong but the pilot SGA was around 3.2?

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