58 Responses

  1. Tom
    November 8, 2009 at 10:23 pm |

    Even though this episode was more stargate related, I have not seen a universe episode yet that reaches SG1 or SGA quality. I do not hate this show or wish it to fail but I do have some problems with it and if they are not corrected my continued veiwing will not be garranteed. If anyone would like to share there opinion with me wheather or not you agree with me my e-mail is [removed by moderator]

  2. timzen
    November 8, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    I completely agree – “Earth” has been the best episode of SGU so far. If they keep up with stuff like this SGU could beat out SG1 in my book pretty soon.

  3. brian577
    November 8, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    Minor typo, Colonel O’Neill, is GENERAL O’Neill

  4. Scott Watson
    November 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    @Tom not sure its wise to post your e-mail as a comment, could get a lot of spam.

    Anyway I like this review. It wasn’t just pro SGU and actually brought up both the good and the weaker aspects of the episode. As a fan I’m fine with that as long as it doesn’t come across as completely insulting which this doesn’t in the slightest.

    I liked this episode but I will admit that the Chloe scenes on Earth were a little too long and I was like “Okay can we get back to the Destiny now”. But the scenes on the Destiny itself were fab.

    Just to note for others some have came up with the idea that the “shaky cam” is to show the the possibility that the crew are being observed by aliens and that the cam is there perspective (Like when a character looks directly at the camera it like hides round a corner etc). This would go some way to explain the shuttle leaving at the end of Air Part 3, what if the aliens are still there?

    I’m tired of arguing btw can we please just act like mature people and have a civil discussion.

  5. stitchprovost
    November 9, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    Overall, I liked this episode as much as the premiere, which was a lot, and is tied for my favorite so far. Could have done without Chloe’s whining (again), but I get why it was done. This was the first episode that actually felt like Stargate though, and it was a welcome change. And this episode settled it for me: I’m a Dr. Rush fan. He’s a devious little sh*t, but he knows what’s going on, and he had the crews back, whether they liked it or not.

    Oh, as a side note, we’ve all heard the Stargate BSG comparisions…well I had a friend over who had never seen anything Stargare, and, five minutes into the show, she says the following: “Oh, it’s like Battlestar Galactica, right?” Hahahahahaha There’s amusement to be found in the truth;)

  6. AbstractAlien
    November 9, 2009 at 1:47 am |

    Generally, it was better than I thought but not quite my taste. I much prefered the previous episode “water” as it had more elements I could indentify with such as the non-humanoid alien entity, but this one was pretty decent. The next ep sounds even better though!

  7. zack
    November 9, 2009 at 2:58 am |

    Interesting review as you made me re-think several aspects of what went on in “Earth”, which is yet another episode that I liked again – though so far, my favorite has been the one just before: Water.
    As for Gen O’neil’s support of the Homeland group, I didn’t see that as in itself being incompatible with his previous character. It’s not as though he has to be against everything they try to put through, and if he really believed the plan would work, I can understand why he might support it. I do agree though that it might have been interesting if Carter had set up the plan … but then, since it didn’t work, she’d be in the position of failing there. So…

  8. altairantares
    November 9, 2009 at 3:01 am |

    I agree with the review.

    As for those whose support is wavering- apparently the next three are supposed to be pretty good, at least according to JM quite different than the past couple episodes.

  9. Xenomorph
    November 9, 2009 at 4:31 am |

    I like Julian Landau-Brown’s reviews, but was curious, who is she?

  10. US06154
    November 9, 2009 at 5:06 am |

    @Xenomorph: LOL, I know they sound similar, but have different meanings:

    Julian: Male. ie., Julian Bashir (ST:DS9), Julian Calendar: from Julius Ceasar

    Julianne: Female. ie., Julianne Hough (CW singer, DWTS Pro)

    Julienne: Cutting Vegetables into long thin strips

    Julian is probably From Philadelphia, PA, Graduated from Johnston State in 2005. Also may have attended the Art Institute of Philadelphia. Married to Karyn Ruark who graduated from Bryn Mawr in 2006. (she likes indian food). LMAO, but then, I could be totally mistaken.

  11. Yxelione
    November 9, 2009 at 5:49 am |

    One of the worst SGU episodes yet (just I can’t decide if its worse than Light or not). Actually, might be the worst Stargate episode of all times. So far, SGU is like a rollercoaster (in a bad sense): average,average,good,bad,horrible,good,horrible. Shame.

  12. Scott Watson
    November 9, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    @altairantares JM might be right there, the trailer for next weeks episode looks interesting.

  13. cmuty
    November 9, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    I think it will be interesting how they handle the moral implications of the body switching. Telford seemed quite disturbed by what had happened, as evidenced by him playing with his wedding band in one scene after knowing how his body was being used.

    I do have a question for all those who want to see Carter and McKay solve all the problems of the Destiny. Isn’t it safe to assume that in the Stargate reality that they are currently facing their own dilemmas? Carter was the commander of the “General Hammond” I believe. We know that there is a legit threat from the Lucian Alliance from episode 1 SGU. McKay is probably not on extended shore leave.

    To think that the entire Stargate program constantly waits for two people to pull their collective asses out of the fire is not realistic. If the writers had wanted this to be the case, then they would have set those characters up in research and administrative positions which they have not done. Just as in the real world, it appears that in the Stargate world there is a division of duties and the fate of the universe does not hang on two individuals.

  14. Universe
    November 9, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    An excellent review, and well thought-out comments as well. This has made up my mind – I’m definitely going to add GateWorld to my list of regular sites :) Have been looking for a good stargate website.

    So, onto the episode. I agree with pretty much everything written above (review + comments), except this:

    One of the worst SGU episodes yet (just I can’t decide if its worse than Light or not). Actually, might be the worst Stargate episode of all times. So far, SGU is like a rollercoaster (in a bad sense): average,average,good,bad,horrible,good,horrible. Shame.

    If anything, Earth was one of the best episodes so far. I liked the pilot a lot more than I liked SGA’s pilot, and I also enjoyed Water and Earth.

    Sure, they’re not necessarily the best Stargate episodes ever shown, but that takes time and I’m sure Universe will eventually push out a great episode that everyone will raving about. It might take a few seasons… but I can wait as long as things don’t get too unbearable with constant relationship arcs all of the time.

    One of my favourite episodes was SG1, season 9, episode 20. The fight against the Ori had me on the edge of my seat :)

  15. zackwbrandon
    November 9, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    I agree with this review. This was the best (and closest to Stargate feeling) episode of the series to date. Yes, it was well below my expectations for the previous series’, but it was notbad at all.

    I even have to say I disagree with the 90210-esque nature of the Chloe scenes. Chloe even explained why that part was relevant: she lived most of her life in ‘drift’ mode and was trying to rise above when catastrophe struck and now she finds herself pulled back into old habits. The character development available to her far exceeds anyone else on the show. I happen to like her character because she is REAL: chance has put her in an exceptional situation and her success or failure depends on her ability to project her father instead of her mother.

    The scene with Eli and his mother was the most touching thing I’ve seen in Stargate since SGA’s “The Shrine” though it continued his character’s disservice by the writers. Once more Eli must contradict his earlier positions in order to remain ‘plain’ by audience standards. The Eli of “Water” would not have lied to his mother, and the Eli of “Air” would not have played the situation off so coolly.

    Greer and Rush are even growing on me, though given the uneven writing of this series so far I have low hopes that they won’t become despicable by next episode. In this episode we got the great payoff to Rush’s advice to T.J. in “Water” to ‘always consider the greater good.’ Here he accomplishes that while preserving his agenda – which is doubtless to stay on Destiny forever.

    Still waiting for them to come together like the old Stargate teams have – even if there are still trust issues and anger issues. But this is the first episode of this show I am going to rate above 7. I think 9.

  16. Slyke
    November 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    Great episode. My only gripe is the body switching stuff. To me the moral implications of what was happening is wrong, and I would probably not trust my wife if what happened in this episode happened to me. In fact I feel so strongly about this kind of stuff I’ll probably stop watching this show if this keeps up.

  17. Slyke
    November 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    I mean to say, the sexual intercourse. It’s just disgusting. What happened with Eli was funny. Tone it down on the sex.

  18. majatt
    November 9, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    The body switching was a pointless and distracting. This is like the sci-fi version of the bold and the beautiful.

    I don’t get how SGC and the IOA would allow people to wander around in other people’s bodies like that.

  19. shaking my head
    shaking my head
    November 9, 2009 at 6:15 pm |

    “Colonel Young confirmed that he was having an affair with T.J. after the dream he had about her, and then talking about it with his wife. And then, there’s the question of where Wray fits into the T.J./Young situation. There’s also the Chloe/Scott/Eli love triangle that left Eli pretty upset.”

    I’m sorry, but is this Stargate or All My Children? These are “story arcs that were mentioned this week” that the reviewer is looking forward to? Why not just switch to Dr Sexy and his gang of weepy, but sexy, nurses over on Grey’s Anatomy or try an eppy of Gossip Girl? Unbelievable that THIS is being proffered as a viable, improved addition to the formerly venerable Stargate line.

  20. Mentat
    November 9, 2009 at 6:51 pm |

    Earth : The Final Episode. The Mo Ryan article in the Chicago Tribune sums it all up for me and I expect a great number of other former fans. Sorry Julian, this fan won’t keep coming back for more. Might have a look at V in its place though.

  21. Nikst
    November 9, 2009 at 8:00 pm |

    To everyone who is lacking faith in SGU, read this from Mallozzis blog (not any criticism):
    “DasNdanger also writes: “Therefore you are assured of my continued viewership through the first half of the season. And yup, though I can see straight through you and your devilish, tricksy ways, I am still gonna jump right into your little trap…just ’cause you set it!”
    Answer: Nope, no. No trickery here. Just saying – if the next three episodes up to the hiatus don’t do it for you, I’ll be surprised – and sad you won’t be watching any longer. Especially since the first episode back after the break is mine, Space, and it’s filled with all sorts of action and aliens and ship to ship battles.”

    So if you want more action and battles just tune in to the next few episodes. “Time” sounds good and we will at least get some action in Space if not sooner

  22. Scott Watson
    November 9, 2009 at 9:21 pm |

    Thats good advice to all who are losing faith in SGU: Give it 3 more episodes.

    ‘Time’ looks interesting from what you see in the trailer for it.

  23. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    November 9, 2009 at 9:30 pm |

    The producers sure spend a lot of time fighting with critics and pleading for fans to keep on watching.

  24. Nikst
    November 9, 2009 at 9:36 pm |

    @Imitation Tofu: Damn it, do you have to be negative all the time? Try being positive once, who knows, it might make you feel better?

  25. Scott Watson
    November 9, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    Well that one was in response to a comment made by someone on his own blog and the “rant” was against those who did personal attacks on the cast themselves.

    I haven’t once seen any producer “plead” for fans to keep on watching.

  26. krdstargate
    November 9, 2009 at 11:25 pm |

    Wow it seems that SGU’s ratings are not so hot after all.


    By now, kerfuffle between Brad Wright and Chicago Tribune TV critic Maureen Ryan has been well circulated. Brad Wright could be right that “there are enough viewers and reviewers who think SGU is neither boring, poorly plotted, or sexist to keep us on the air long after “V” is just a letter in the alphabet again.”

    But he could be wrong, too.

    The drop off in SGU ratings is perhaps not quite as alarming as White Collar dropping from 5.075 million down to below four million, but there have been consecutive weekly drops for Stargate Universe and Friday it was down to 1.626 million viewers (live+SD). A week earlier it averaged 1.974 million so that’s still almost an 18% drop week over week…

    Gee I wonder why…may be because the show is not really stargate, and instead just sex in space.

  27. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    November 9, 2009 at 11:47 pm |

    I feel great Nikst but thanks for your concern. My point stands. When Atlantis started these producers didn’t get into stupid fights with online critics and they didn’t have to beg fans to keep watching either.

  28. ictus75
    November 10, 2009 at 4:00 am |

    I don’t think the party scene detracted from the episode as much as it did some character development and backed up the assertion that “these are not the right people” to be on board destiny. There are a number of “young adults” who lack maturity and might find themselves in a “grow up or die” scenario. Chlöe is one. Yeah, she was a bit too much angst, but it showed that she needs to grow up in a hurry and get over the trivial matters that are back home on Earth. Eli too. He needs to get over his genius slacker self image and prove himself capable of being up there with McKay/Carter/Rusch.

    It was also great to see Col. Young step up and really take command of “his people” and defend them against what he felt was a dangerous proposition by the IOA. I get the feeling that even though his hands were tied, Jack admired Young for that. Now Telford is a real problem and it will be interesting to see how anything with him develops.

  29. janet99
    November 10, 2009 at 6:49 am |

    My problem with the episode – as with most the episodes so far – is they’re simply not a genre of entertainment I enjoy. I’m sure my parents would love it (they like all those rubbish drama shows) but I prefer Sci-Fi which – apart from being set on a spaceship – was practically non-existent.

    The endless “meaningful conversations” absolutely nothing important are awfully boring.

  30. zackwbrandon
    November 10, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    This series is hitched to, arguably, the greatest science fiction conceit ever imagined: the Stargate. The Stargate presents the opportunity to delve into new worlds weekly and to explore an infinite number of possible human stories. The problem with the heavy-handed yet transparent writing in this show is that the gate is an (as yet) under-used accessory and the human stories are repetitive echoes of better science fiction.

    The danger though is not that Universe is not unwatchable. I actually enjoy it a little. But I do miss the old style of Stargate. I think these individual episode discussion have beaten that horse dead and then some.

    The truth is this was a really good episode of television. I only wish I hadn’t seen it last year on Lost and Battlestar Galactica. The highlight of the episode, for me, consisted of the revelation that the ship has weapons that work and are reminiscent of Goa’uld weapon tech – a subtle reminder that it came from scavenging ancient technology in the first place. However, that was a mere fraction of the episode.

    The majority of the episode consisted of learning that everyone everywhere is an unlikeable person. I watch “Gossip Girl” and “90210” and I recognize these ‘personal relationship’ stories all too well. In fact, I am convinced that the writers lazily telegraphed several of their lines from the Naomi-Annie drama of “90210.”

    The issue I had with this episode is the same as the issue I have with this show: the science and the science-fiction is only a window dressing for a completely redundant human drama. I think I agree with ‘janet99’ that “the endless ‘meaningful conversations’ … are awfully boring.” Besides, I could return to watching “Real World” for all the hookups, fights, immoral tomfoolery, and ‘meaningful conversations’ that accomplish absolutely nothing that I could want. Or I could gouge my own eyes out. Not sure which one wins if I ever watch “Real World” again… but I digress.

    It all boils down to the information that both Joe Mallozzi and Brad Wright have both now dismissed all non-supportive criticism as invalid. They are ignoring the fact that their ship has holes in it that could be fixed if the concept of the show and the writers became reacquainted with some of the fan expectations – built over fifteen years of Stargate. It doesn’t even have to be a radical change from what they are presenting now. But ignoring vocal minorities has become a costly habit of those in power of late. While ratings for SGU might be strong to start, without some hardcore fans those ratings will diminish on a network like SciFi (still refuse to recognize the new name). Though their absence might not sink the ship, the revolt of a few hardcore fans could sour advertisers and others from giving this show the chance that it deserves. Preventing such a revolt should be priority one for the showrunners and I think meeting some of their reasonable demands will reduce the measure of the unreasonable ones somewhat. As one dismayed with the direction the franchise has taken I think some of the more reasonable harangues have the potential to improve the series dramatically – without anymore ‘meaningful conversations’.

  31. Nikst
    November 10, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    @zackwbrandon: I do agree that they could use the gate a little bit more. But the again there have only been 7 episodes so far and out of those they have used the gate in 3 episodes. But there is one problem. Sure using the gate is fun but I don’t know if I really want them to do that that often. For example, on Atlantis I wanted them to explore Atlantis and all its secrets, the show was called Stargate ATLANTIS, for crying out loud. In stead 80% of the show was “of world”! That annoyed me quite a bit! And now we have the Destiny. And I want to know its secrets and its purpose and so forth. So I’m not sure I want them to overuse the gate. Sure a little bit more maybe, but the next episode will have gate usage so I’m happy so far =)

  32. majatt
    November 10, 2009 at 11:38 am |


    They are doing neither, exploring the ship or the gate worlds. I was with them until this episode and I will watch a few more but the ‘cliff hanger’ being Telford and Young’s wife was some 90210 stuff.

    Furthermore sleeping with someone in another person’s body along with SGC/IOA allowing people to wander around in other people’s bodies does not seem like something that will go away. There have been as many sex scenes as Gate uses!

    What I am trying to say is that this seems to be the direction they want to take and I will keep my fingers crossed they change but if the don’t soon I for one won’t be watching anymore.

  33. Nikst
    November 10, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    @majatt: Well the next episode seems to have a classic Stargate story so it should be more to your liking. And Mallozzi said that episode “Space” will have action and space battles so you should at least watch until then.

  34. US06154
    November 10, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    @Nikst.. If the “gate” is not used or used sparingly like expensive truffles.. wouldn’t the show become Star Trek? I was under the impression StarGate implied Gate Travel, not to be aimlessly wondering in a galaxy, far, far away.. “These are the voyages of Starship Destiny, it’s mission, to swap bodies, and other bodily fluids?” :D

  35. janet99
    November 10, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    There has been precious little exploration of the ship, discussion of its purpose or general interest in anything sci-fi related full stop. Plenty of “expression of feelings”, very little sci-fi.

  36. zackwbrandon
    November 10, 2009 at 2:06 pm |


    “These are the voyages of Starship Destiny, it’s mission, to swap bodies, and other bodily fluids?”

    If only we could get Dr. Rush to say that at the beginning of every episode. Then instead of a woman singing they could have a bunch of moaning to cheesy 60s music – LOL!

    But seriously, the episode was an improvement and I actually like the show. Just not a fan of oversexing the franchise.

  37. majatt
    November 10, 2009 at 3:25 pm |


    That is encouraging but again my thing is the focus. Stargate has never meant romantic drama within Sci-fi and that is not what I want to see. If they continue so strongly in that vein I will eventually stop.

    Its like you show up at a Pizza place and they are serving various foods using Pizza ingredients…but no Pizza.

  38. Nikst
    November 10, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    @US06154: A bunch of gate travel was what SG1 was about. Atlantis should focus on Atlantis, at least 50% of the show. SGU should have an equal 50, 50 of gate and ship episodes. Granted they haven’t done much of either but then again it wouldn’t be realistic that the crews get to the ship and immediately accept their situation and start exploring and going to other planets. Especially since the ship is in charge of where they go and when they drop out of ftl. With the next episode hopefully they will have started to settle in and they will start exploring the ship or planets. We will just have to wait and see. And US06154, you might want to actually watch the next episode instead of just reading the comments here and accepting what other nay sayers say, the next three-four episodes should be more along the lines of the Stargate you are used to. All though they probably still will have some of the elements that you don’t like as well. We can’t get all in life now can we? =P

    @majatt: Don’t mean to be petty but this show isn’t exactly “romantic”. Humans need to be in physical contact, you have 6 billion people as proof of that =P. So that Chloe, who isn’t all that confident in herself and quite frankly is scared, grows closer to Scott, who in her eyes is a heroic guy who she feels safe with, just makes sense. So they put in some scenes now and again to show that their relationship is developing and continuing. So that it doesn’t become a thing that they just threw in there in one scene and then forgot about it. Sure I hope that they don’t have the “club-type” of scenes in too many episodes, a couple is enough. All though I did find the comments made by “drunk-Chloe” to be a little bit funny. Let’s just see how the show develops, it’s still hasn’t found its footing. Just like the characters, they are still new to the ship and the situation. When they get comfortable the show will as well.

  39. Joelist
    November 11, 2009 at 2:42 am |

    Couple of things.

    First, while the amount of and nature of the sex in SGU is getting annoying, lets stop acting like SG-1 had none. We had Sam and Pete and Daniel and Vala just off the top of my head. And lest we forget SGA with Rodney and Jennifer joining the mile high club? So I guess the question then becomes one of what it is that makes the SGU sexual content annoying.

    In my opinion, what is making it annoying as opposed to the content in the other SG series is the whole ‘90210’ factor. The sex in the other shows came about from properly developed relationships over more than one episode, and was in context with the other storylines.

    In contrast, SGU is giving us ‘hookups’. It is also in the process making the characters look pretty bad, male and female alike. This I think is contributing to the ratings slide – really the show lacks likeable characters. Eli is really the only truly likeable one. Rush acts too loony, Scott by already having multiple partners looks like a womanizer and is not very likeable to boot. Young is gruff, Chloe is extremely annoying and of the rest only the medic shows signs of being a character anyone would like.

    Second item, SGU is having issues because it is not doing what Sci Fi typically excels at when done well. That is using a fantastical element to explore real world elements. The Ancient stones are a perfect example of this. This episode has people using other peoples bodies to have sex by virtue of the stones. There is no real world element this can be commenting on for the simple reason that body swapping is impossible. And it is a pity, because real world issues of empathy and/or understanding the views of another could be explored with that plot device. Instead we get the plot equivalent of one of those cruddy skin flicks cable channels like to run in the middle of the night.

    This can be fixed, but the time to do so is not unlimited. If the ratings are already sliding (which they are), the problem becomes how to get the audience back after you alienate them. And that is never easy.

  40. pat
    November 11, 2009 at 8:27 am |

    I have always been a SG fan and really want SGU to be successful. However SGU is so BAD I have been driven to register here and voice my disappointment with SGU so far. I have to agree with Joelist’s post. This is exactly the biggest problem with SGU. It’s trying to be something I don’t think many real SGU fans really want.

    The characters in the show come off as so shallow and unbelievable. The writers of this episode in particular don’t seem to have any concept of true character development when in comes to relationships. The relationships (to be polite) aspects of the show seem to be written by three teenage boys who have never had any experience with women. They should stick to the type of writing that they are good at.

    As I said, I really wanted SGU to be successful but the EARTH episode, was the deal breaker. I think an apology from the writers and creators for betraying your fan base is in order.

    How about the next time Destiny goes for a energy boost the shield fails. Then you can concentrate on a concept for the next series. Put them out of there misery as soon as possible.

  41. Buddybear
    November 11, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    Well said pat the sooner the better. They are wasting money on a show that is going nowhere I wonder when MGM will step in and put an end to it.

  42. Scott Watson
    November 11, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    Just curious have you guys looked at the trailer for “Time”?

  43. Stormin
    November 11, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    I post a comment critical of the show and it is CENSORED???!!! Come on! Give me a freakin’ break.

  44. Stormin
    November 11, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    This episode was more of the same 90210 BS. These are terrible characters who are indeed “the wrong people”… the wrong people for an entertaining scifi show. Bring back Atlantis!

  45. TheTokraIsASpy
    November 11, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    Like a lot of people, I’m hoping for less sex and body swapping and more aliens and Gate travel, but I can handle a little delayed gratification. My patience paid off with SGA, which I hated in season 1, but grew to like until maybe the second half of season 4. If you can’t stand the show, here’s a novel concept for you: Stop watching!

    There’s been several Sci-Fi/SyFy originals I couldn’t stand (Sanctuary, Painkiller Jane, Warehouse 13, Ghost Hunters) but instead of constantly bitching about them and personally attacking the people involved as the SGU haters are doing, I chose to ignore them. It seemed stupid to waste my time wishing those shows failure.

  46. pat
    November 11, 2009 at 5:45 pm |

    The defenders of SGU go on about how much of a character driven show this is. Give me a break. The characters are shallow, predictable, and unbelievable. Scott is shown in first episode having sex with one of the cast. The seem to be very close. But somehow when they get to destiny they don’t even say anything to each other, like they hardly know each other. It would have at least made sense if he was having sex with Cloe in ep1. Scott and Cloe having sex when they thought they were doomed was ridiculous. Some grade eight boy’s fantasy brought to life. Funny how only the really good looking people on the ship decide to get one more in before they die. I’m surprised everybody on the ship didn’t decide to have sleep together. Get real! I’m no prude, but these relationships are not very well thought out or developed at all. It’s reeks of gratuitous sex so they can say this show is different from all the rest.

    And to top it off General O’Neil’s character was also ridiculous. So much for continuity. Maybe the writers should review the Gateworld Omnipedia or at least watch a few old episodes so they can remember what O’Neil is like. You might as well have used a completely different character in his place.

    Oh and let me guess, someone is going to find out she’s pregnant soon. So predictable!!!

    I understand what the writers are attempting to do, but you have missed the mark, by light years.


  47. Darren
    November 11, 2009 at 5:53 pm |

    @Stormin: Clearly you don’t have to look far to see that we don’t censor comments that are opposed to SGU.

    If your comment contains profanity, multiple links, or a few other choice caustic words, it will be caught by the filter and must be manually reviewed. If it violates the rules, please don’t expect it to be approved.

  48. timmyBon
    November 11, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    “Next week it will be interesting to see if SGU focuses on some of the story arcs that were mentioned this week and not fully developed. Colonel Young confirmed that he was having an affair with T.J. after the dream he had about her, and then talking about it with his wife. And then, there’s the question of where Wray fits into the T.J./Young situation. There’s also the Chloe/Scott/Eli love triangle that left Eli pretty upset.”

    What on “earth” is this? An ABC primetime drama review? Those aren’t “story arcs”. A story-arc is a new alien race threatening earth or the discovery that the gatebuilders have ascended, not one guy having an affair with someone.

    This episode displayed everything that is wrong with the series. There was apparently a plan to get them back home but no-one seemed to care, it was like a background detail in between endless talking and “who’s she sleeping with” (does anyone even know what the actual plan was?).

    I’m not some prude who doesn’t want to see sex on TV or something. If they want to put some sex in Stargate, fine, sounds good, but the show should still be Stargate; not a cheap teen-drama with an unused Stargate sitting in the background while everyone chats about who they wanna slap most!

  49. Discosis
    November 11, 2009 at 8:32 pm |

    I didn’t have a problem with the nightclub scene. Good episode. :)

  50. Buddybear
    November 11, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    So does anyone know how it did in the ratings from the last episode how much did it drop this time?

  51. Uncle Al
    Uncle Al
    November 11, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    Earth is still unwatched on my the DVR. If I get around to watching it I will be fast forwarding past all of the hooking up and relationship drama to get the the science fiction. How much time do I need to pencil in for what will be left? 5-10 minutes at the most?

  52. Stormin
    November 12, 2009 at 12:18 am |

    @Darren Sumner

    I reposted the comment tonight with the exception of my mentioning the word “crap”. Now if that is a violation of the rules then this place is really lame.

  53. kenny
    November 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    Hey Joe M and Sci-Fi. So this series is not going to be a BSG sex opera hey? We can do without further sex acts for the rest of the season I thank you. It really doesn’t help the story. And I must say you really push the TV14 ratings. If this weekly lovefest with different characters continues, I will not watch the rest of the season. This show would be pretty good with out that crap. But still not the qualify of SG1-SGA.

  54. Scott Watson
    November 12, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    @kenny post that on there blog, its unlikely that they will see it here.

  55. New Guy
    New Guy
    November 12, 2009 at 7:10 pm |

    The ‘sexing’ up of the Stargate franchise is frustrating. I’m giving the show a few more weeks before I tune out for good.

  56. Jadc
    November 14, 2009 at 12:31 am |

    Personally i think this episode was really good, The show has just started so dont expect to much from the show, dont get me wrong the show is truley amazing at the moment and i know it will be brilliant is the next few more episodes. I just watched “TIME” and now that feels like a proper stargate episode. I dont expect this show to be like Stargate sg1 or atlantis (I personally believe this show can be alot better than atlantis) I can already tell they the writers have something up there sleeve and waiting to unleash it…

    Cant wait for next episode.

  57. SilentDictator
    November 16, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    Granted the series has started off rather slower than it’s previous endevours but the concept of picking up where the ancients left off is a great spinoff. I think SGU is on to something good and it will surpass SGA but everyone knows nothing will ever replace SG1, but lets face it all good things must come to an end.

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