40 Responses

  1. Mentat
    May 13, 2010 at 5:59 pm |

    I hate to repeat it, but we were told this was supposed to just keep getting better. SGA fanbase + new audience = ? With only a couple of episodes left in the season how are they going to be able to grow those numbers?

  2. FOX102895
    May 13, 2010 at 6:18 pm |

    “Life” harmed SGU,
    -29% in “Justice” :(

  3. FormulaJRay
    May 13, 2010 at 6:42 pm |

    Glad to see they are going to be trying another night. Friday just didn’t seem like a good night. I don’t think Warehouse 13 is better than SGU or Caprica…so hopefully the change of nights will help. Tuesdays may be a good night, but I also wonder if the ratings of Warehouse 13 and Eureka aren’t as high as they are because they are on Tuesdays during the summer. I’d be curious to see how well Warehouse 13 and Eureka fared during another part of the year, and how well SGU and Caprica would do over the summer.

  4. junebug
    May 13, 2010 at 6:48 pm |

    While I don’t mind Warehouse 13… it has the feel of a comedic drama than anything. The only thing it’s missing is a laugh track.

    SGU, while not exactly like SG1 and SGA (which incidentally is a *good* thing), is more gritty and about emotions and acting more than witty one-liners. But the public is fickle and collectively dumb, so tv shows have to cater to that. Hence every single dumb reality tv show on american channels.

  5. psw
    May 13, 2010 at 7:06 pm |

    “The lower ratings for the second half of the season aren’t entirely unexpected, as any new series typically garners higher numbers for its premiere and tapers off from there to settle into its weekly average.”

    WHAT??? SGU’s second half got less viewers than Stargate Atlantis in its 5. season! It isn’t “typically” that a new series lose so many viewers so fast. SGA’s season 5 average is 1.6 million viewers live + same day. The second half of season 5 got even 1.7 million viewers live + SD. The live + SD average for the second half of season 1 of SGU is so far ONLY 1.467 million viewers.

    It is VERY bad that a NEW series gets in its first season already worst ratings than a five year old series, which it replaced!

    And even Merlin got more viewers for the last episode and Merlin aired later in the evening than SGU. Merlin is also a cheaply imported series from the UK, which were shown there months ago, so that many fans have probably already downloaded the episodes, before they were shown on Syfy.

    And that SGU’s ratings are better than those from Caprica, don’t mean very much. Caprica’s ratings are horrible.

  6. jeanette178
    May 13, 2010 at 7:25 pm |

    Soo can someone explain to me if this is good or bad? lol. Im no good at this stuff. This tells how many people are watching destiny every week? How do they count that, do our tellies transmit back to them? Anyway it looks pretty good if its millions watching lol

  7. AscendedTauri
    May 13, 2010 at 7:29 pm |

    It’s truly unfortunate, since the 2nd half of the season has been incredibly strong. Loving the direction of the show!

  8. ProclarushTaonasAt
    May 13, 2010 at 7:44 pm |

    Truly unfortunate. I think that many where turned off with the first half of the season and did not return. The second half has been really good.

  9. mattcci
    May 13, 2010 at 8:10 pm |


    It is hard to imagine these ratings being spun as a good thing. SGU was promoted as a show that could bring in new viewers to the Stargate franchise. Now, it appears that SGU is going to have the lowest season average rating of any Stargate show ever on Sci-fi (or SyFy). This is definitely bad news for Universe and the Stargate franchise. While it may seem like a lot, a bare million viewers is not a good thing. Even on cable.

    Moreover, next season it is being bumped from the traditional home of science fiction, Friday night, so it can go head to head with American Idol, NCIS, and Dancing with the Stars on Tuesdays. Yikes.

  10. ProclarushTaonasAt
    May 13, 2010 at 8:58 pm |

    Darren, it seems you were right about the bump the show receives with the Live + 7 day numbers. I just read this on Joe M’s blog:

    “Hmmm. Looking over these live+7 numbers. Human, the last episode charted, received a whopping 47% bump from time-shifted viewers, the biggest to date. That’s almost half our audience! I guess that’s what you get for having a techy fanbase.”

  11. Vladius
    May 13, 2010 at 9:22 pm |

    As much as I like SGU, they really need to get over this pretentious, moralizing, boring “drama” stuff. That drives the ratings down, as well as draining the life out of the show.

  12. Mandrake
    May 13, 2010 at 10:45 pm |

    The Stargate franchise was rolling along beautifully and then it made a left turn and drove right off a cliff when SGA was cancelled and SGU was pushed off onto Stargate fans as new an improved. First, Stargate didn’t need much improvement and secondly, SGU turned out to be a complete disaster. Of course its ratings are down…. Where SG-1 and SGA had humor and human qualities which made you care about the characters, SGU has none of that. Back to the drawing board and either bring SGA back or give us a new Stargate that preserves the essence of the first two. The SG powers that be violated the cardinal rule of “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.”

  13. Chevron Atlantis
    Chevron Atlantis
    May 13, 2010 at 11:05 pm |

    Ouch! lol nothing to laugh about though. This is quite sad to see and not a good sign for this franchise to say the least. I hope the ratings do go up in season 2 after season 1 ends. Life really really killed this series almost 500,000 viewers stopped watching it. I haven’t had the pleasure/shame of watching the rest of the series because they cancelled the series here in Australia after 3 or 4 episodes can’t exactly remember. Anyway I look forward to watching it on DvD when the whole set comes out. It seems there is a massive outcry about this series I do wish the ratings go up for this series and less of the drama soap opera stuff. All the best to SGU.

  14. zack
    May 13, 2010 at 11:34 pm |

    The last two shows in the series were, in my opinion, the best so far.I’m surprised that the overall viewers declined for the live version telecast for the second of those last two. I would have thought anyone having seen the first of those would come back for the second. Perhaps the delayed ratings will show improvement overall for the second of the last two.

  15. Greenfire32
    May 14, 2010 at 12:22 am |

    I’m fairly positive the THREE MONTH HIATUS might have a tiny bit to do with less viewership.

    Half the “new audience” didn’t like SGU, the other half didn’t remember it. Us “veterans?” We’re mostly a mix of both.

  16. DarkElfa
    May 14, 2010 at 12:54 am |

    News like this is hater fuel. These numbers have been, are and always will be flawed.

  17. mattcci
    May 14, 2010 at 1:01 am |

    @ DarkElfa

    You think tvbythenumbers.com is run by disgruntled Atlantis who are surreptitiously deflating Universe’s numbers to encourage anti-Universe sentiment? Oh my. That’s a theory that would make the birthers proud.

  18. universacred
    May 14, 2010 at 2:59 am |

    Still no sign of BSG writer’s excellence. Maybe ripping off the violin music and “darker grittier” shooting style it’s not enough?

    More adventure and action with great writing and bit of humor = strong ratings. And please use drameh when it’s needed, only.
    BTW: Episode with Rush and his adorable female friend in Wray’s body was just D’AWWWWWW. I hope to see her again, It’s a shame they didn’t get laid this time. It’s her only chance in lifetime, you know? Rush is just a douchebag. Have mercy for that girl!

    I love the fact she talked about ascension with Rush, man. I can understand her, really. She’s like female version of genius Stephen Hawking. People like them deserved better life and health condition than many of us.

  19. Chris1
    May 14, 2010 at 3:07 am |

    The long hiatus likely has something to do with it. I really hate the holiday vacation time cop-out nonsense. If a show is good people will watch it regardless of the day.

    If for example 24 aired on say Christmas or Thanksgiving, my entire family would be getting together to watch it and it’d be much more exciting than the millionth rendition of It’s a Wonderful Life or some cruddy Lions game.

    *stops rambling*

  20. lkrnpk
    May 14, 2010 at 3:38 am |

    I wouldn’t worry about the ratings at the moment. First of all, the DVR ratings are very good and even if they don’t mean anything to Syfy, they know the numbers and will do something to make people watch it live (for example, sending the shows to Tuesday night). Will it help the show? Who knows…

    Secodly, we still got the second season. Syfy isn’t FOX, CBS or NBC that will just axe the show if it doesn’t do as good as expected. We will at least have two seasons but I think the third season will also go our way since… let’s be honest, Syfy can’t offer anything OF original programming that would be called sci-fi except
    SGU… If they don’t become Wrestling Channel, I can’t see with what they will replace SGU. They might cut a bit off it budget though…

    And also, the ratings at this point doesn’t mean much… I’ve seen the Ukrainian eps and think that ep.17 and 18 will add more viewers and for finale, maybe even 1.8 -1.9 million viewers might tune in, the cliffhanger is good and, if the first part of the 2nd season is good, we won’t have to worry. And even if the viewers are not there for the finale, we still have got the first part of season 2 when the show (and TPTB) can adjust things to attract viewers…

    Also, SGA and SG-1 were cancelled not because of bad numbers but because the shows were going nowhere… i.e. they didn’t see how they could possibly get more viewers to tune in. Maybe the viewers are not watching SGU at the moment but it’s a young show and there’s still a lot of potential, a whole lot more than in 10 years old or 5 years old show…

  21. syffyllys
    May 14, 2010 at 3:47 am |

    The fact is SGU isn’t so much of a continuation of SG1 and SGA as it is a side-step in a new direction entirely. The fan base has changed, and it would seem, has declined somewhat. That happens with such drastic changes in format, and it’s certainly no surprise. It will be interesting to see if the live+7 data also reflects this.

  22. psw
    May 14, 2010 at 7:45 am |

    @ Darren

    SGA started of course with MUCH MORE viewers than SGU. SGA’s worst Syfy HH rating was in its first season 1.7 and in its second season 1.5. SGU on the other hand already had once a 1.0 Syfy HH rating. SGU started with much less viewers than SGA, so it can’t afford the lost of many viewers.

    And it is not like SGU is only losing in the USA much viewers. Australia’s free TV channel TEN cancelled it after three weeks and in Germany and the UK the ratings are also getting more and more disappointing.

    I made an overview of the Syfy HH ratings of SGA and SGU and a graph out of the ratings of the USA, Germany and UK. There you can also see clearly, that there wasn’t such a big downward trend in SGA’s first season. Of course after the premiere with a rating of 3.2, there was a fall to a 2.5 rating in the next episode. Then SGA lost viewers until the season low of 1.7 in its 9. episode. But then in the second half, the ratings increased again! The 19. episode got even the same rating again as the 3. episode! The season average of the first half of the season was nearly the same as the average of the second half of the season.

  23. lkrnpk
    May 14, 2010 at 8:23 am |

    psw, I guess, is one of those who run that other forum against SGU…

    Anyway, viewership doesn’t show the quality of the show, let’s just say Atlantis was more “accessible” to casual viewer or, in general, to a typical TV viewer than SGU. Of course, it seems that the numbers were affected by the fact that most of the Atlantis fans left the show too… I haven’t seen many new fans SGU attracted but it has gained some… and not from the category of people who would shout and insult others if their show is cancelled.

    SGA won’t return, we all can only hope for movies so it doesn’t mean anything to SGA situation (or movie situation) if SGU is canned or not. Movies are financed in a different way and the problems why movies aren’t getting made are in no way connected with SGU.

    It doesn’t look that viewersip will drop further, at the moment if feels stable and I don’t really understand what’s the fuss about it…

    As concerns UK and Germany = the same deal, people expected something different from SGU, thought it would be more like Atlantis. It wasn’t.

    In my country BSG did a lot worse than Atlantis ratings wise. Does that mean Atlantis is a better show? I love Stargate franchize but realistically BSG was like Ancient tech compared to Lucian Alliance…

    Also I loved Atlantis seasons 1 and 2 and no wonder that I now get to know that the viewership dropped in them… since viewership always drops in shows that I watch. So it’s a good sign :D that means the show is smart and complex enough to be liked only by people who appreciate it. I really appreciated SGA season1 and, for the most part, season 2- at that time they at least were trying to make an interesting and complex action orientated tv show. That, like in SG1 seasons 9-10, gradually became more like comedy sci-fi with plots already seen not only on Trek shows, but also in Stargate itself and DONE WORSE…

  24. law7441
    May 14, 2010 at 8:28 am |

    hiatus got nothing to do with it happens alot on american shows some have be 4-5 months and when they come back they nearly always get good viewing, sgu don’t because it not that good, space been the best epiosde so far, others had monents but in the end, they try to change something that was not broken and now made it alot worse, mean fan lose out as they be no more money too fund other series later on

  25. psw
    May 14, 2010 at 9:08 am |


    “Hmmm. Looking over these live+7 numbers. Human, the last episode charted, received a whopping 47% bump from time-shifted viewers, the biggest to date. That’s almost half our audience! I guess that’s what you get for having a techy fanbase.”

    Mallozzi is of course spinning the numbers. It is spinning because of various reasons:

    1. Live + 7 days ratings are unimportant for Syfy. People who record series usually don’t watch the commercials.

    2. It is much easier to get a high percentage increase with the + 7 numbers, when the live numbers are small. When a series gets for example 1 million viewers live and has a 50 % increase, it has 1.5 million viewers live + 7. When a series gets 2 million viewers live and has a 25 % increase, it has 2.5 million viewers live + 7. So in both cases the series gained 500 thousand viewers, but if you look just at the percentage increases, you could easily get the wrong impression, that the first series attracted more DVR viewers.

    3. Mallozzi didn’t mention, that the live + 7 ratings are also decreasing. Live + 7 ratings in million viewers per episode:

    1/2: 2.779
    3: 2.99
    4: 2.6
    5: 2.673
    6: 2.64
    7: 2.3
    8: 2.529
    9: 2.44
    10: 1.96
    11: 2.1
    12: 2.1

    When the live + SD numbers decrease, the live + 7 numbers usually decrease, too. The newer episodes probably didn’t get more than 2.1 million viewers live + 7. There is a chance than some of them are even below that number.

    4. Live + 7 ratings didn’t help SGA. Season 5 had on average 2.1 million viewers live + 7 and the series was still cancelled. Live + 7 ratings are REALLY unimportant and only useful for spinning.

  26. Kosh
    May 14, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    I’ve never been good at understanding these rating numbers as they have never really been in as big a spotlight before, at least that I’ve noticed.

    So I like reading the comments on news bits like this, both the positive and negative sides to it because it really helps me get a better overall picture of things and also seems to bring out lots of interesting information as you all make your counter-points :)

    Anyway… I have nothing valuable to contribute so carry on :D

  27. psw
    May 14, 2010 at 9:53 am |

    @ lkrnpk

    “psw, I guess, is one of those who run that other forum against SGU…”

    Just because I am also active on another site, doesn’t mean that my facts and conclusions are wrong! Go, read the ratings thread in the Gateworld forum. You will notice that a lot of objective SGU fans agree with me, that the ratings of the second half of SGU’s first season aren’t good.

    As I already stated in my comment from May 14 @ 7:45 am, I made some overviews which compare the Syfy HH ratings of SGA and SGU, and the ratings of SGU in the USA, Germany and UK. I think it is easier to understand what I meant in my older comment, when you see them with your own eyes. Sadly enough I can’t link to them. But Darren mentioned the site, where I posted the overviews, in his podcast about the “Space” episode here:


  28. utex
    May 14, 2010 at 9:57 am |

    A couple of observations:

    1. The show started with less viewers than SGA in its first season and ratings are down. Even slightly down means you are loosing viewers. A series with that kind of trend will have a hard time turning it around.

    2. I watch the show just to see it get better. I am not a hater, but I just don’t like the tone and melodrama (this is not drama). I am “old school” scifi fan. Adventure, “drama”, aliens,coming together to solve stuff. Instead what I get is rivals, competing factions, over the top melodrama and very little action.

    I am a fan of both SG1 and SGA and the series had its flaws but at the end of the day it was entertaining, this series for me just drones on and on. I really want to see the show change directions and ditch spending 80% of the show on interpersonal relationships.

    As far as someone saying audiences are dumb, I don’t believe disparaging people who don’t agree with you is the way to go. A lot of people don’t like SGU because its not their “reality” of what ScFi is all about. I have not been happy with SyFy’s direction over the last 2 years. No more decent SciFi movies, instead we get movies about giant piranhas. No more interesting series, instead they are going for the 18-35 demographic because advertisers pay more for them. NBC Universal running the show has been the downfall ever since they canned Michael Shanks.

    A note, I do find Warehouse 13 and Sanctuary refreshing because the shows are fun to watch. I think that those who disparage Warehouse 13 as being goofy are too intellectualy snobish. I watch TV to be entertained not to have to watch something that’s overly complicated.

    IMO, and its sacralige, they should just pack up SGU and the SG brand and ride off in the sunset.

  29. zackwbrandon
    May 14, 2010 at 12:02 pm |

    It’s been a while since I’ve posted here: been too disappointed in the odd pro-SGU at any cost regime; though I understand defending it the franchise has taken up a lot of our collective time over the years – it isn’t fun to hear something you feel connected to debased.

    I was amused this morning to read the spin (on both sides) regarding SGU. Full disclosure: I quit watching after the needlessly trite surgery on Rush including an attack, a mutiny, a doctor from Earth via the stones, who is then interrupted, and then Rush woke up, plus TJ finally realized she did know how to do the surgery so all of that worrying was pointless anyway. The only thing that could have made that more laughable would have been for a grizzly bear to run on set and start eating crew members – not funny laughable, Joker seeing the world as a disturbing joke laughable. At any rate, I’m one of the ones who stopped watching a while ago – and I took my friends and family with me.

    But I digress, I recall that the earliest spin put on SGU was done by Brad Wright regarding a certain Chicago based critic whose analysis of V included a swipe at SGU. V was just renewed by a major network after having stabilized creatively and critically complete with a ratings boost to boot.

    What does that have to do with this? V was expected to be cancelled despite its uphill ratings fight because the initial viewing was kinda boring. But instead of sticking to their guns and insulting the critics, the makers of V knuckled down and recreated their own show without firing a single actor: the result was a rebirth of good story-telling and science fiction as a device used to convey real world themes.

    With an eroding audience, and abandonment by the critics, advertisers will not be far behind. Like SGU or leave it: the time for pride is passed. Folks depend on this franchise for jobs and economic security. SGU needs to change or it will likely die in its second season and take people with it.

  30. VTRich
    May 14, 2010 at 1:04 pm |

    I personally love this show!!!! Even if I dont consider it the best if all the stargate shows, I still root for this one to succeed! If they cancel this one, they are lessproeme to want to create another one.

  31. VTRich
    May 14, 2010 at 1:07 pm |

    Ugh I mean less-prone … Stupid iPhone auto correction

  32. lkrnpk
    May 14, 2010 at 1:50 pm |

    Come on, V is failing both as a show and ratings wise. Maybe SGU is failing too but I don’t see how V is getting better… i watched the first episodes, then another one and abandoned it… Life made me almost leave SGU too but after that ep. it has improved a lot…

    You know how often I rewatch SGA seasons 3-5? I haven’t rewatched them at all. I’d like to watch Vegas and The Shrine from season 5 for some time and that’s it- certainly no “plague nr.5, Atlantis shutdown again”, “‘McKeller out of the blue and no chemistry”, “‘Tribunal ep. done worse than in any sci-fi show, escept maybe Voyager”, “all-girl one liner ep”, “escorting princess to some forest” or other episodes…

    I’ve watched SGU episode “Light”‘a few times, “‘Time” maybe some 10 times, ep.17 and 18 that hasn’t aired yet in US also a few times, I totally love the ending of 18 and start of 19, I love the ending (and the whole ep) of “Divided”‘, the same for “Lost”… I love then ending of ep.20…

    There’s just not much material in SGA seasons 3-5 OR sg1 SEASON 9-10 for me to rewatch. i loved Atlantis season 1, season 2 was pretty good… after that it just became too campy- I’m not against camp, I love SG1 “Bad Guys” since it’s an original idea and Stargate use but if cheese is combined with 100 times seen plots with mediocre acting then I just watch it because it’s a Stargate show and not enjoy it really…

  33. kellx
    May 14, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    I Watch SGU every friday and start it about 30 minutes late with my DVR so i don’t have to watch commercials. i don’t care when the show is on, I will watch it. But friday night at 9 is the WORST time slot. I mean seriously, for everyone that has a life and no DVR, there aren’t a lot of options. i don’t know why they don’t factor DVR ratings in. Clearly the people that record the show are interested enough to take the time to record it. So what, these people don’t matter to syfy? That is just stupid. i am a die hard SG fan and my ratings don’t matter to you because i watch the show at my convenience? I like to watch new episodes when i have the time to sit down and enjoy it and i would bet that many of you SG fans do the same. Having a good show in that time slot is setting yourself up for failure. I think that moving the show to tuesday in the fall will ultimately prove beneficial for the ratings. I just hope they keep stargate on the air with fresh episodes for the foreseeable future. I love SGU and i think that the show has A LOT of potential to be an amazing show especially if given the opportunity to run its course

  34. Mentat
    May 16, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    Re: competition. I gave a good try at watching Caprica which had some very interesting parts but was spoiled for me by the 16 year old protagonist we just saw far too much of (sound familiar?) So I gave it up. I tried V a few times but also never really got into it, perhaps because I didn’t fancy the original premise either. SGU in Canada is spoiled by far too many annoying commercials and besides I largely disqualify myself due to the incessant unnecessary shakey-cam zooming.

    My theory is that good sci-fi as we knew it is just dead — a victim of market demographics determined by the financiers and studios. Even if SGU pulled in 5 million viewers it wouldn’t mean automatically it was a better show. It would just be accepted by a greater number of eyeballs. Babylon 5 is held in very high regard and it fought constant ratings and cancellation battles. If SGU dropped below the one million threshold there would still be a sizable fanbase of support, although probably not large enough for the distributors liking.

    So the numbers here are the main thing that propel the manufacture of the show, but I don’t think they are ever an indicator of quality. This show is sold live even even in the Ukraine I recently found out and such worldwide distribution and market fragmentation must be a very hard nut to crack successfully today. If I knew how to triple the SGU numbers I’d be working in Vancouver, rather than being an armchair critic like most of the rest of us.

    In the end with the several new sci-fi based shows this season I don’t watch any of them. Good old scifi as we knew it can be picked up for less than a dollar an episode on DVD without commercials. [End of Sunday morning sermon, it’s a nice day out now.]

  35. DrHPMW
    May 17, 2010 at 3:58 am |

    Perhaps SGU would have greater international ratings had it remained on “free tv”, that is the standard and ubiquitous free-to-air televelsion for Australia. But after only showing a total of 3 episodes, Season 1 and subsequent seasons were canned here, only to be watched by those who could afford payTV (Foxtel/Austar).

    This is me berating stupid Australian television, we have about 11 free channels, and not one could pick up the license to show SGU. If any of you American SG fans out there ever get the chance to come to Australia, we have none of your benefits, and out TV prefers to host crumby reality shows about untalented Aussie singers, and botched cooking contests. There is no defintitve reason why should come here!

  36. Mitchell82
    May 17, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    I rarely post here anymore because of the anti SGU crowd. I have to say that while I love SGU the ratings are not good. IMO the show is great but the so-called die hard SG fans can’t get over the fact that this show is different. I am an avid SG fan and have been from the beginning and SGU is just as good as SG-1 and SGA. Unfortunately not everyone agrees and I seriously doubt SGU will last beyond season 2. Which is a shame IMO because it would mean the end of Stargate for a while. SGU IMO keeps getting better and better but too many just don’t like the new direction.

  37. Kelara
    May 19, 2010 at 3:13 am |

    kellx: ” i am a die hard SG fan and my ratings don’t matter to you because i watch the show at my convenience?”

    No, you don’t matter to the network because you don’t watch the commercials (as you expressly stated and most DVR- viewers don’t).

    For TV networks, the only thing that matters is how many viewers watch the commercials as they are paid for by the advertising companies and bring in money. More viewers means more expensive commercial slots due to higher chances of people storming off and buying avertised products :o).
    The network gains nothing at all financially from you sitting down, watching and enjoying their show. They gain from high selling rates on the commercial slots. That’s in how far you (and everyone else watching) matters.

  38. goobie
    May 20, 2010 at 10:09 pm |

    Last July at Comic Con I was excited about the cast and their comments at the panel discussion. Since then, nothing but disappointment. No real exploring of other worlds or cultures; inexpensive or non-existent special effects by keeping all of action on the same sound stage of the ship; soap opera and most action back on earth (again, much cheaper to shoot); basically the same story over and over again. Depressing action, characters and dialog. The last season of Atlantis was great, and the best of any Stargate seasons except the first years of SG1. What a disappointment. I am anxious to see what reception the panel gets this year in San Diego.

  39. Mandrake
    July 26, 2010 at 2:43 am |

    All the explanations of why SGU is not doing as well as expected are overlooking the obvious. The majority of SG-1 and SGA fans don’t like SGU, and without that fan base of course the ratings are low and will remain so. SGU is mediocre at best and will never reach the numbers the first two shows posted. Give us a new show in the tradition of the first two shows and the fan base will come back. Stick with SGU and the fan base will stay away. It’s really that simple.

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