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Raine
Raine
12 years ago

It won’t be on in Canada on Space until May 28th

Pioneering
12 years ago

The series is certainly building momentum. I’m looking forward to these final Season 1 episodes.

xxxevilgrinxxx
xxxevilgrinxxx
12 years ago

Dratted long weekend! It’s going to make me insane to not watch it; I’ve been watcing the trailer with a lot of interest.

wganubis
wganubis
12 years ago

Okay, I really dont get the preview. It sounds like Rush is talking about Stone use, but for him to have had that perspective, he would have had to have been controlling Talford.

I also dont get why Talford would give the alliance info. Its not like they could give him something in exchange for his services that wouldnt raise redflags on earth.

kellx
kellx
12 years ago

i am really looking forward to these last episodes. The show is clearly building momentum i will just be totally bummed when it is over.
I am really curious to see if talford is really a lucian alliance agent. It totally makes sense in the scope of the series but it almost seems too obvious. hopefully we will gain some insight to the lucian alliance’s presence and interest into Icarus and destiny. Based on what i have read about season 2, it seems like the Lucian alliance will play a big role in the series. ie Robbert knepper

methos
methos
12 years ago

This is my first time posting on gateworld.net. I have been a faithful fan of this site since it first started way back in the day. It’s nice to finally be able to post without someone else being a total hater. I was skeptical of SGU when it first came out, and I hate to admit it, I didn’t see an episode until I bought the first half of the season… Now I am hooked. It is a fresh take on Stargate, but it hasn’t gone to far off center. Stargate for me, has always been about the characters, the… Read more »

talyn00
talyn00
12 years ago

All I got to say is Jack and Daniel will be on so it has to be good

wganubis
wganubis
12 years ago

I really have to applaud this episode that I really don’t know where to begin. I love the fact that they actually talked about the power vacuum left behind by the ghoul’d and that Talford feels that it was wrong of humanity to just leave it at that. I was disappointed that Jackson only had a few minutes on the screen but O’Neill made up for it. I wonder why the alliance wants Destiny. Do they hope to use it as a means of starting over in another galaxy? Surely they aren’t kidding themselves into believing they can profit from… Read more »

zack
zack
12 years ago

This episode took me by surprise. I actually didn’t expect it to take the path it did. I’m impressed that it did. And, because of that, the ending – which was left open, is really left open. Again, as with almost all the episodes of the second half of Season 1 for sGU, another really excellent episode. Initially, I even had a down thought that the conflict between Telford and Young was going to be there one more time, but that wasn’t it at all. Cool. Good one.

talyn00
talyn00
12 years ago

Anyone notice this the first episode the goa’uld were refered to by name. Great episode. Pissed I have to wait two weeks for the next one.

altera
altera
12 years ago

WTF, great Episode. The Whole Plot was very good. The open end is it worth enough to wait 2 weeks. Of course it is to much time for me, but only 2 weeks and then it goes on. Jack O´neills Humor was also so funny. Another good Episode with high tension

Wesley32
Wesley32
12 years ago

I absolutly liked it. When you saw Jackson and O´Neill talking over the radio when he was spying on that roof it really felt like watching SG-1. Really can’t wait to see the next 2 episodes.

kellx
kellx
12 years ago

GREAT episode. kept me on the edge of my seat until the very end when i became disappointed that i have wait to weeks for the end! SGU showed its full potential last night. Way to open up the series to a new direction. Not that any episode was bad, but this gave the series so much more depth. I was very skeptical about how they were going to use the lucian alliance in the series because honestly in the last 2 seasons of SG1 they didn’t really seem that scary or intense of a bad guy. Kind of like… Read more »

Scott Watson
12 years ago

What a complete turn around from ‘Pain’. I really didn’t like the last episode but this one more than enough made up for it. You really would need to nitpick to come up with faults in my opinion.

We also have the old Jack back! his humour was fab in this episode.

Stormin
Stormin
12 years ago

FINALLY!!! A decent episode! This one was actually good. It was great to see Jack and Daniel. Although I find is silly that Daniel is playing the Spy Game. I’ve never liked Telford (actually, I really don’t like any of these people much at all). I was glad to see he is a traitor and a loser. Wray continues to be super biotch and I look forward to Greer pulling out his M9 and putting a bullet in her head.

The reason this one was good? Old Stargate SG-1 connections and characters! Hmmm…isn’t that surprising.

xandder
xandder
12 years ago

Even though this episode and the next 3 have been ruined by my own inpatient’ness and stargate wikia having the entire season episode synopsises available to read, I was still blown away, the LA were amazing, and Kiva is just an amazing character, really cant wait to see more of her in the next 3 episodes. The amount of development they had in this episode is more then they ever had in the entire last 2 seasons of SG-1, and now they seem perfectly capable of being able to pull something like the Icarus attack off, granted when I first… Read more »

comp734
comp734
12 years ago

agreed – great episode! jackson and o’neill and carter (presumably from orbit on the hammond) made the episode a classic.

but i don’t think gateworld will give **** b/c there was no major story arc, maybe *** 1/2. hopefully there will be a lot of action in the finale…

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

It’s pretty interesting to see SG 1 conventions, like a cargo ship, through the lense of SGU. It makes me appreciate the evolution of the story much more.

comp734
comp734
12 years ago

You have to admit the part with greer was funny – telford and young start to fight, greer does not like rush or telford and gets to punch both, sort of, in the face at the same time! talk about two for the price of one

FormulaJRay
12 years ago

Glad to see so many positive comments for this episode…it really was a great episode. I remembering seeing comments a while back about the Lucian alliance being a weak enemy…but SGU may be an opportunity for them to become a stronger enemy. Now we’ve also got a glimpse of how they may get on the ship…if not by the stones, maybe by a stargate.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

My only complaint is the use of the same actor who played the bounty hunter who became the leader of the Alliance in “Bounty Hunters” as a different character.

Why not have him reprise the same part?

I understand that they wanted Kiva to be the heavy of the episode, but that could have been accomplished without changing the other actor’s character. She could have deposed him and turned him into her lackey.

Evilslayer
Evilslayer
12 years ago

@ Michael Sacal

If you’re talking about the episode “Bounty”, that guy didn’t become the leader of the Alliance. He’s just a bounty hunter doing his job.

By the way, was his name ever revealed in this episode? I have a feeling he might be Simeon.

wganubis
wganubis
12 years ago

The franchise reusing actors isnt new. SG-1 has plenty of examples of this and SGA used an actor from the original movie for that guy who had the love drug thing going for him.

Personally I like to believe its the idea that everyone in the world has a twin. Multiply that by a pair of galaxies and you can at least accept that for this

kenny
kenny
12 years ago

Jack, Daniel, references to the old show is what made this ep. Getting bored with the Destiny, the dark tone and all the personal problems all the time. If these sg1 actors were in it more often, the show would be great. Oh. And no more sex too.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

The name is revealed in the summaries found at Stargate Wikia, and they are not the same.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

If those actors were on SGU more often then it would become SG1, and that’s not what this is.

SG 1 ended, it ran its run.

arnoldrimmer
arnoldrimmer
12 years ago

SG1 and SGA were forced to end….

altera
altera
12 years ago

that is the way how the business works. For the sake of sg1 another show was canceled.

xandder
xandder
12 years ago

Please for the love of all that is good in the world, get over it! The shows ended//cancelled what ever you want to call it. At the end of the day, the creators decided to end SGA because they were bored with it, and to be it showed, the characters were boring, and annoying cough Mckay cough, and highly unrealistic, but again, thats to do with the creators, the fans wanted a watered down version of Sg-1 and thats what they got! Atleast with this show it is something completely new and refreshing to the franchise, and this last half… Read more »

jeanette178
jeanette178
12 years ago

Ok NOW im confused lol. So i get why Young would want to kill Telford because he’s sleeping with his wife but if he does that doesnt Rush die too? I thought Rush and Young were friends now after they made up after the takeover thing, well some friend he is now lol. Also who are these loose alliance, are they terrorists? After what happened last week i was sure they were going to update us this week on the rivalry for Scott between James and Chloe, or at least some big hints finally about who TJ really likes (im… Read more »

altera
altera
12 years ago

@ xandder

I appreciate your Post. The other Shows are gone and that´s the bottom line. SGU is a really good part of the Franchise! Another good proof was Subversion.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

The fact of the matter is that SG 1 stopped being about the show it used to be long before it ended. At one point, like around season eight or nine, it became Star Trek without the Enterprise. For my taste the show began to rely far too much on spaceships like Prometheus and far less on the Stargate. I understand why it was done, it was because they ran out of shooting locations up in Canada and had to rely on standing sets in order to produce a show or else end it far earlier than it did. In… Read more »

FormulaJRay
12 years ago

I think I recall Zelenka saying they using the wormhole drive was a significant drain on the ZPMs. Getting it to earth was probably the only time they could use it. I guess if they don’t do an SGA movie, we won’t find out what happened to Atlantis after it got to earth…did it stay? I think they should have reused the Atlantis set for scenes on earth instead of the Pentagon’s ‘Office of Homeworld Security’. Presumably, incoming wormhole’s to earth would default to the newer Atlantis stargate, theoretically making Atlantis the new Stargate Command on earth.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

With the shutting down of Cheyene Mountain in real life, it would make sense for the SGC to move its operations to Atlantis so that the show could reflect this real-life event. Plus, it would make sense from a strategic POV as there is no safer place for the SGC to operate from than a cloaked city. I get the feeling from some of the sets used in SG U for use as Destiny that they may be altered sets from SG 1. I’m thinking mainly of the corridors, which have a similar circular shape to the ones used in… Read more »

Nikst
Nikst
12 years ago

Sacal: Your kidding right? The sole mission of the SGC is to find technology that can defend earth against other species and to defend it, its Earths first and last line of defense. And you want to move that to ANOTHER GALAXY??? Make sense in a strategic point of view? You’ve got to be joking!

bluecat
bluecat
12 years ago

At last, at long last its paid off. I’ve been watching the show since it started, it promised so much and never delivered. I’ve shouted at the TV so many times with just nothing happening in each episode. Something that would be a throw away subplot fille rin the back ground in any other show has been for the most the main plot of this show, and this is why it has suffered. If you want drama, get drama writers in, don’t get action adventure writers attempting drama. But any i digress. THis episode is what i’ve been waiting for… Read more »

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

Er, you did see the last episode of Atlantis, right? You do know where the city was last seen, right?

Nikst
Nikst
12 years ago

@michael Sacal: Oh you meant that they should let Atlantis stay on Earth? Atlantis should go back to the Pegasus and if you want to have the show mirror real life then sorry. Its not possible, since Cheyene Mountain would NEVER be closed down if the SGC was using it. But since SGC doesnt exist in real life they closed it down in real life. And it would be irresponsible of the SGC to just screw the Pegasus galaxy over like that. Considering they are the ones who woke up the Wraith and all. That move would actually make Telford… Read more »

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

@Nikst It’s relative. As you said, the SGC’s mission is, and I quote, “The sole mission of the SGC is to find technology that can defend earth against other species and to defend it, its Earths first and last line of defense.” The reason why the Atlantis expedition traveled to the Pegasus galaxy in the first place was to find said weapons to defend Earth against any possible threats to its safety. The moment that Atlantis touched down off the coast of San Francisco the expedition accomplished its standing orders. Morally, they should go back to put a stop to… Read more »

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

Another thing to consider is that O’Neill might be reluctant to send a lone Daedalus-class vessel to the Wraith-infested Pegasus galaxy to find ZPMs. For logistical reasons he would need to send an entire armada of vessels that could stand up against the Wraith ships (which, in theory, should be easier to do with the Asgard upgrades from Unending).

Who would approve the cost of doing that? It’s like sending an armada to the Gulf.

Nikst
Nikst
12 years ago

@michael Sacal:Kinsey, the NDA, and other political characters presented through the course of both shows have ALWAYS failed to prevent the SGC to do what they find morally right. They do put up a fight about it and sometimes they are a real pain in the ass but in the end they always fail. At least in the things that matter. Examples, when they tried to throw out General Hammond, when they tried to shut down the Stargate program. When they put Wolsey in command of Atlantis to do things their way, failed again. When nda tried to steal technologies… Read more »

Nikst
Nikst
12 years ago

As you can see, me being tired I misspelled a few words =)

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

Heh. Technically, Kinsey succeeded in shutting down the SGC in the first season. It took SG 1 defying orders and crossing the Stargate to Apophis’ ship that ultimately restored the project. If a senator were to equally forbid the SGC from sending a Daedalus-class vessel to Pegasus to find enough ZPMs to power Atlantis’ wormhole drive, what could the SG A team do to defy said order? They don’t have the option of using the Stargate to travel to Pegasus, do they? Additionally, if they could find more ZPMs to power the wormhole drive, shouldn’t they use them to rescue… Read more »

altera
altera
12 years ago

The Wormhole drive?? Why they need ZPM´s for This. They can use the normal Intergalactic Drive for this, like the Ancients did it years ago

Nikst
Nikst
12 years ago

Sacal: Like altera said, they dont need to use the wormhole drive and even if they had 10 ZPMs they wouldnt use it, its to dangerous. And actually, YES they can use the Stargate. Remember the intergalactic bridge? Remember that they used it once to connect to another gate in the Pegasus when the Replicators took over Atlantis? They could use it again, to go on a ZPM recovery mission/missions. And Kinsey, momentarily succeeding doesnt count, like I said, he failed in the end.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

The wormhole drive would be faster. Any Daedalus-class ship could go find the Icarus expedition with their Intergalactic drives, but it would take them years to catch up with them and years to get back. They wouldn’t have enough supplies to do it. Plus, this is Stargate, not Star Trek. The point of the show is to see them use the gate to travel across vast distances, not use spaceships to do it. I don’t know about you guys, but the addition of ships – while cool – did annoy me a bit as they overshadowed the gate. As for… Read more »

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

Midway went the way of Hathor (I meant to put that in, but forgot).

altera
altera
12 years ago

If they find ZPM´s they won´t use it for the Wormhole drive. And the Ships would travel for more or less 80 Years. So, Supplies are not the problem.

Michael Sacal
Michael Sacal
12 years ago

In the time it may take them to find enough ZPMs to power the WD, they might understand it enough to cut down on the risk of using it.

I’m certain that in SG A land scientists like McKay and Zelenka are still studying the tech found n Atlantis, and now that the city is on Earth they have access to resources and personel they couldn’t employ before to help them in their endevours.

altera
altera
12 years ago

But they don´t understand the Tech. Knowledge alone is one thing but really understanding is another thing. they won´t find a way to rebuild the Wormhole drive or make it more effective.