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Bellboy
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I’m thinking (now) that Season One’s risk has done more harm than good. Character growth is a gradual process. I’m thinking now that there could have quite easily have been more Stargate-esque episodes (like the ones described above) without being bogged down with potentially tedious drama. (The recent Chloe “crisis” being a prime example. What was the point of that?)
I really want a new series but I don’t know what to think anymore. This was my dream show and already it’s gone.

Bellboy
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^I mean “new Season” :|

Kellx
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This show has gotten so amazing. I can’t wait! Its sad to see stargate die, especially when SGU so darn good. I will always hope for best for the future of the franchise

Darkthunder
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So, what’s the point in watching the remaining 7 episodes of the show, if the show has already been cancelled? No word from MGM/SyFy on if we’ll ever see a 3rd season. No word on if we’ll see any SGU movies made. What incentive do we have, to watch the rest of the show? Not an SGU hater (anymore), since the previous 3 episodes have all been very good, and Season 2 as a whole has been leaps and bounds above Season 1. Just curious, why we should continue watching SGU. To end the show (when it’s DEFINITELY improving in… Read more »

Rob24
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Let get people excited then cancel the show.

Go To Hell syfy

Mythos
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To those still somehow hoping for a season 3…several key cast members have already moved on to other jobs. The downside to having A-list talent on a tv show is that they can find other jobs pretty easily. There’s really no chance of a third season of SGU. There’s barely any chance of a movie if they don’t start it shortly. It is likely just dead. Re-tooling would be difficult without really changing the show and while I can think of at least one way they could pull it off, I doubt they’d do it or that they’ll even get… Read more »

Knowles2
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I wonder who came up with the name Novus for there civilisation, Eli, sound like it from science fiction series. An is there any special meaning behind the world. I also wondering how big there population is. From the story is seems that the civilisation might be pretty advance as well, certainly advance enough to be sending out interplanetary expeditories. An it seem that we will also be getting a large contingent of new characters as well, all related to or crew. An if they are that advance then I bet they have also attracted the attention of our new… Read more »

Charmedstargate
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Hints of the stories still ahead make us weep that this show was cancelled??? Are you kidding? The only thing that makes me weep is that SGA was cancelled for this nonsense. Now we have a Rodney McKay appearance to get more Atlantis fans tuning in. Well what makes me actually weep is not seeing him in weekly episodes of Atlantis.

Puddlejumper_1
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To all fans. Can someone please tell me the logic in not watching sgu will somehow help the show? Pretty much in every comment page on the news tab has someone saying their not watching sgu because they say it won’t do any good if they did watch it. Listen not watching the show only reinforces and makes syfy’s decision to cancel the show right. Syfy said they canceled it becasue of low viewers, well if the viewership was high then then it will make them look like dumb*****.And if another network was looking into renewing the show, they would… Read more »

The Tenth Doctor
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I’ve not watched SGU since midway through season 1. I will catch up in a marathon at some stage, but whilst I strongly detest the haters and the schemes of SGUsucks users, I’m also disappointed because Stargate Universe – which is a legitimate Stargate series whatever anyone says, not least the woefully egotistical Telepathic Pebble – could have been a lot better than it is. It isn’t terrible, but not amazing. A missed opportunity.

Sixampfuze
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@charmed
Season 5 of sga had low ratings and they were around 1.2 per episode except the final few. The same for sg1. Sgu didn’t kill the franchise. Sgu expanded on the franchise. Maybe sga’s pathetic enemies and over used sg1 stories are what started to turn the franchise. Also it’s bad characters except Lorne shep and Rodney .

Grimcicle
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@charmedstargate

For the past year and a half, just about any article on this site that speaks positively about SGU inevitably becomes littered with comments by melodramatic ****s. I’m sick of seeing bitter little children like you go on tirades about how an artistically and dramatically superior show “ruined” the franchise for you. I get it, okay? You’re afraid of change, and lack any real understanding or appreciation of the arts. It’s cool. But it’s people like you that make the science fiction fanbase look bad.

Sixampfuze
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It’s one thing not to like the new series but it’s another to hate it because “it killed my Atlantis”. Atlantis killed itself and the ratings proved that because people started to leave the show. Atlantis was getting 1.1’s in season 5 which was it’s best season episode per episode in my opinion.
I’m sad all 3 sg series are gone. I’m really sad we have no scifi.I’m really really sad we don’t even have a scifi channel in the USA

The Tenth Doctor
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Atlantis’ ratings were higher than SGU’s current (and mostly ever), and would have likely resulted in a Season 6.

Not taking sides in this rather amusing discussion, just pointing facts.

Imitation Tofu
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The producers killed Atlantis so they could make Universe. How did that turn out? Franchise low ratings and a bunch of guys that will never write or produce Stargate again.

Maybe they should have a game plan the next time they want to work on such a self-proclaimed “grown-up” project.

Knowles2
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The Ten Doctor, may it just me but I find the arguments pathetic.
What kill SGU is contribution of factors, with no single one playing out. I actually suspect in years to come many people will grow to relies that SGU might be the least successful in terms of viewing figures but in writing, CGI, characters and acting it was superior to the previous franchise incarnations.
Much of the hate does not extend from the show it self but in how SGA was cancelled and the sudden in my opinion in quality of the show, which some people just cannot handle.

Noldor
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If the producers could understand that there is a world outside america too, SGU would never have been canceled.

Captain-Bazz
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There will always be someone bashing on SGU. It’s sad that they can’t step back for the last few episodes at least, just to lat the fans discuss it without the bitching.
When it comes down to it, Haters Gonna Hate.

Noldor
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@captain-bazz
I don`t see the point either. Because all series must come to an end, so in that case.. why watch anything at all.

The Tenth Doctor
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@knowles2 I agree completely. Some of the things SGU does are the best in the franchise. Story and pacing isn’t one of them.

Ib1117
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These episodes sound fantastic, and I can’t help but wondering how great a third season would be. At least SGU will go out in style.

Browncoat1984
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Stargate Universe was not killed by the producers and their desire to do something different, just like Star Trek Enterprise (which is an inferior show to SGU, SGU is much better than Enterprise was) and Star Trek as a whole was not killed by Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. Just like with Star Trek, there was no ONE factor that killed the series. I at least hope if nothing else we get novels that continue the series…that would be better than nothing and a number of the post DS9/TNG/Voy/Ent novels have actually been good and moved the series in interesting… Read more »

StargateDominator
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Stargate…
It’s a great big world…
With a great big swirl
that you step inside
to another world.
We’re talkin Stargate,
It’s a crazy trip,
You can go quite far
and you don’t need a car
or even a ship.
There’s Colonel O’Neill and Carter and Daniel and Teal’c.
Look out for that Goa’uld.

The destiny
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Argh! Common descent! We were talking about it on the forums! So awesome!!

Can. Not. Wait.

If I lived in the US, I’d be glued to my television waiting for SGU to start..

Kayzersoze
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SGU is by far the best of the 3 series. And I loved (and still love) the other 2. But let’s face it, they were pretty much identical to each other, and pretty standard formulaic, episodic stuff that suited television in the late nineties, early ooze (00’s) – which was pretty much just a slightly new twist of the same shows as the 80’s. You could take an SG1 or SGA episode back in time to show mid 80’s Sci-Fi fans and the only thing they would comment on is the effects. The rest of the show would just seem… Read more »

ELQ
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Kayzersoze, EXACTLY. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So many people don’t get these simple facts. TV changed to become more deep, not just formulaic episodes like in most cop shows. And I think it’s that change that has put off so many SG-1/A fans, to the point that they drove others to kill off SGU.

BTW, does anyone know if SGU will finish its storyline, or will it end in a cliffhanger?

PhillySpartan
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The one thing that has always bothered me was fan belief here that Stargate Atlantis was canceled by the SciFi Channel. SciFi’s original plans were for new seasons of Atlantis and Universe. It was the producers that said no to another season of Atlantis and in turn killed the show. And what is up with the false information in regards to Atlantis ratings? The numbers don’t lie. Atlantis’ ratings were never bested by Universe. That’s not a work of science fiction writing. This is actual fact folks. I love the Stargate property, but it officially died with this past Decembers… Read more »

Charmedstargate
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@Grimcicle and sixampfuze Positive articles don’t bring in ratings. You can call me all the childish names that you like but the ratings for SGU speak for themselves. You can bring up SGA’s low rating as much as you like but at least they were steady and they never dropped below a million. SGU has done that 3 times already this season. Two big mistakes TPTB had done to doom it all was to cancel SGA for SGU and to jumble Battlestar Galactica, Voyager and 90210 into one to produce SGU. I believe if those 2 things had not come… Read more »

Puddlejumper_1
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Dang I just rewatched some sg-1 episodes on hulu and the Sam and Jack relationship thing came up a lot. Frack, those two just need to get married, and I’m not talking about in an alternate reality or in some imagination episode I’m talking the real deal. If out of some miracle Stargate Revolution happens I hope they put that in it. My god the tease, season 7 and 8 is just tease!

Shermacidal
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@charmedstargate
Just because a show has character drama doesnt mean its anything like 90210. If u and your freinds dont wanna watch SGU thats fine, real stargate fans have been watching and most love it.

AscendedTauri
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I can’t believe there are fans out there that still would rather see episodes like Emancipation, The First Commandment, Nightwalkers, Family Ties, The Tower, Irresistable, Irresponsible, Missing, Harmony, Brain Storm, or Identity over ANY EPISODE of SGU!?

I’m sorry, but there is ZERO possibility that SGU was ever that bad in anyone’s book. Thanks to the ones that do, we’re left with vampire sex, Gossip Girl, and reality shows about flat-footed has-been celebrities ruling our airwaves…. and yet SGU is what’s BAD on television? Take a look around people!

Sylvia
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If you like the show, watch the remaining eps and enjoy them. If you don’t, don’t.

BTW, the ratings in Season 5 of Atlantis were going up, not down. I don’t know why bitter SGU fans (wow, how the worm has turned) have to make disparaging comments about SGA in an attempt to make their show seem better somehow?

Grimcicle
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Heh, an entire sentence was edited out of my comment.

By the way, a show being character driven and dramatic doesn’t warrant a comparison to 90210. Don’t be so narrow-minded.

Xandder
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LOL @ Sylvia “If you like the show, watch the remaining eps and enjoy them. If you don’t, don’t.” Does that apply to you not coming into every single SGU thread and making the same comments over and over, you dont like the show, so why feel the need to keep reading up on it? Also the ratings aren’t indictive of how good a show is, sure Atlantis had better ratings but that show was gash, it was nothing but a serverly watered down version of SG-1… FACT! The characters were the exact same characters at the end of the… Read more »

Knowles2
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xandder | March 25 @ 4:47 am

Bit a unfair I mean Ronan is staring Conan in a major hollywood film. Sheppered is doing a cheap sit coms.
So yeah only one of the stars of the show have done successful and he sought of born for the role really.

Virtually all of SGU stars are walking into brand
jobs straight away. An quality of acting is just a whole new level, but may be that the directing and lighting but it certainly better.

The Tenth Doctor
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Oh yes, and they censor here, that is something I forgot to mention.

UKSteve
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The SGU Team have only themselves to blame. The show started off SO slow. Now its getting to a point that SG fans love its just too late. RIP SGU

Crocket
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@xandder im sorry but Sga was not a watered down version of sg1 and it had plenty of character growth so i don’t know what you were watching now im no bitter fan could say im a tad annoyed fan that they never finished it but we dont get everything we want in life so meh but dont ever compare Sg1 to Sga the may have been the same show in two forms but the both had there differences which made they both really good shows now as for Sgu yea its ok At best its had some good eps… Read more »

Xandder
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@Crocket Didn’t finish what exactly? they bought the wraith down to their knees in 5 years, something the ancients couldn’t do in 100 years! What else was there for them to do? they were the dominant race in the galaxy by the series end, just like earth at the end of SG1. They were both wrapped up pretty nicely if you ask me, the people moaning about the stories that need wrapping up in a movie or something are talking nonsense, there’s nothing to wrap up. It’s easy to compare the two because they’re pretty much identical shows, except that… Read more »

Sylvia
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@xandder, just enjoy your show. I’ll enjoy mine.

Xandder
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@Sylvia
dont worry I will, would be more enjoyable though without having to see you in these threads all the time. Seriously, wouldn’t it be much more appropriate for you to stick to the Atlantis articles, seeing as you’ve admited time and time and time and time again that you dont like SGU at all, but yet, you’re in every single SGU related article. Do you not have anything else to occupy your time with?? :/

Sylvia
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@xander, for some reason you are fixated on me, when I make fewer comments than most of the regulars here at the news threads. I enjoy reading all the articles and listening to the podcasts. I’m a huge Stargate fan although I did not like SGU, I’m still very interested in the franchise. I’ll keep posting my observations when I see something I want to comment on. Please don’t take it personally, Stargate is, for the most part, a fun hobby. I also get that you liked SGU, I’m happy you found a show to enjoy. Many did not feel… Read more »

The Tenth Doctor
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“Just enjoy your show. I’ll enjoy mine.”

Best thing I’ve seen on here all day. Now be quiet, the lot of you.

Puddlejumper_1
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@xander why do you have to bash other shows to somehow make SGU seem better? There were a few things I hated about SGA in its first seasons, like how when it first started SGA just seemed to be a bunch of spoiled people who were taking all the sg-1 technologies for granted, and how when sheppard went ahead to save col. summner and ford said he found them from shepperd’s military boot trail when infact they were all actually wearing sketchers. But as time grew on the show got better, so for the same reason I gave SGU a… Read more »

In3d
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Hmm, I wonder if “Novus” could have been founded by the SGU crew lost through the recent “temporal” wormhole? The episode is called “COMMON DESCENT”. I don’t believe the crew was lost, only were dropped off somewhere else as well as in a different time. @knowles2, Novus could actually be important to the 2nd Destiny crew, but the first Destiny Crew who was lost through the wormhole wouldn’t have known a 2nd Destiny survived. I really hate temporal paradoxes! Still, might be a possibility ;-)

Methos1x
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time to end the SGU/SGA rating fight with raw facts. Live + SD Ratings SGU, season 1 average: 1.684 million viewers SGU, 1. half average: 1.949 million viewers SGU, 2. half average: 1.445 million viewers SGU, season 2 average: 1.043 million viewers (ep. 21 – 33) SGU, 1. half average: 1.078 million viewers SGU, 2. half average: 0,926 million viewers (ep. 31 – 33) In comparison to SGA’s live + SD numbers: SGA, 2. half of season 4 average: 1.7 million viewers SGA, season 5 average: 1.610 million viewers SGA, 2. half of season 5 average : 1.68 million viewers… Read more »

Imitation Tofu
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“TV changed to become more deep, not just formulaic episodes like in most cop shows. And I think it’s that change that has put off so many SG-1/A fans, to the point that they drove others to kill off SGU.” Yes, it was the change away from likable characters with real chemistry that put off so many SG-1/A fans. SGU failed because it was a character heavy show with poorly written characters and an arc heavy show that dragged its sloppy arc through the first season. That’s not deep, that’s a complete failure in vision. And are we back on… Read more »

Coremae
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Season 1 sucked from the beginning because they should have showed aspects of season two first, and return to points of season one with flash backs. Now for that to have worked, they’d have to have had, a full view of the so-called five year mission. But, JMS did it for Babylon 5

Katikatnik
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@sixampfuze: You’re mixing up your numbers. What you’re talking about are HH numbers, not viewership. Please, do double check your facts before you start presenting them as written in stone?

@methos1x: Thank you! SGA had its best season average since S2. But yeah, it was on its last breath *snorts*

I do not like these SGA vs. SGU fights, to each their own, and I try to avoid them but when someone’s posting utter nonsense, it does tend to raise my hackles.

Katikatnik
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@kayzersoze: I wouldn’t have minded something different – if done well. And IMHO, SGU just wasn’t done well. It tried to imitate BSG but with a heavy dose of Defying Gravity. Also, the time of BSG and gritty drama is long past. These days, people want ST: Reboot, Avatar, action, humor, fast-paced stuff again – these things come in cycles and SG TPTB came too late with their idea.