
It was 2009, and the Stargate franchise was at an inflection point.
The feature film was about to mark its fifteenth anniversary, the television franchise had been in continuous production for 12 years, and a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game was in development. SG-1 had transitioned to DVD movies, and Stargate Atlantis had just aired its final episodes on Syfy Channel.
Enter: Stargate Universe.
The third Stargate TV series was prepping its launch that fall, with a brand new setting and a new cast. Creators Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper intended to make SGU a different kind of series — more of a character drama than an action-adventure series. With a cast of characters marooned on a derelict alien ship called Destiny, SGU would tell its stories in a serialized fashion more than episodic. And it would not be afraid to have among its main cast anti-heroes who didn’t always make the best decisions.
Stargate Universe was also a pivot from a show set at a stationary base — both SG-1‘s Stargate Command and Atlantis‘s Ancient city — to ship-based storytelling. In a recent conversation with “Dial the Gate,” writer and executive producer Joseph Mallozzi talked about the changes and the new possibilities that the show offered — from a ship-based show, to a stellar ensemble cast, a ship with a continuously ticking clock, and more.
“The prospect of doing a third Stargate series but doing something very different intrigued me,” Mallozzi told host David Read. “Conceptually, I loved the idea of a ship show. It’s kind of classic sci-fi, with a Stargate angle. So that really appealed to me.”
There was also a practical production reason to avoid too much gate travel in galaxies millions of light years away from Earth. Watch the clip for the conversation:
While SG-1 and Atlantis focused on smaller casts of around five central characters, Universe was also more a true ensemble. Eight main cast members led by Robert Carlyle and Louis Ferreira (along with frequent guest star Lou Diamond Phillips) were given a chance to shine, while writers also enjoyed writing for a host of support personnel — like scientists Brody, Volker, and Park.
Mallozzi also talks about the decision to make the Ancient communication stones a regular part of the show, which also opened up stories that didn’t use the Stargate itself. The stones ended up being a controversial element in the series, both because it kept the reluctant crew of civilians and soldiers tethered to Earth and because the writers rarely explored the moral implications of their use.
But the stones proved to be a significant advantage to writing and producing the show on a budget. Using the stones “opened up the show and allowed them to not only communicate with Earth, but ultimately would also get us off the ship,” Mallozzi said. “And getting off the ship is easier said than done! Even though the Universe budget was healthier than Atlantis or SG-1, you would eat up a lot of that budget just by virtue of [the large cast and visual effects].”

Sending the crew to SGU‘s more alien landscapes was expensive – so Stargate travel did not feature as prominently in the third series. From “Water”
While the writers were often criticized for so many planets looking very much like the forests of British Columbia, Mallozzi said that there was a desire on SGU to vary the looks of the planets visited by the Destiny crew. “The problem was that if you were going to go off-world a lot of time it would bust your budget, just because you didn’t want to do forests all the time. You would have to create these amazing sets or mattes.”
“On the other hand, they felt that just being on the ship all the time would feel claustrophobic. And so that’s why they introduced the stones.”
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What did you think of SGU’s different way of telling stories? Was it time for Stargate to evolve into something new, or did you miss the episodic adventures of its predecessors? Sound off in the comments!
The stones were (imho) what killed SGU. They took time away from the central story and left a “chain of command” in place that the show would have worked better if it dropped. As long as Young was still taking orders, there was less a sense of responsibility for the actions taken. I loved that the show was ship-based however, although the ticking clock was kinda pointless – you as a viewer always knew there would be enough time on the clock to tell whatever story they wanted to tell. Yes, it added some tension in that they were rushed… Read more »
Agreed.
They did kill off the clock eventually. I suspect that they needed to create a sense of peril rather than just strandedness. The bits of the third season that became comic books continued to have a decent story, and led to further questions. A third season wouldn’t cost Amazon much, for the fan base that would subscribe, and a story that hit its stride.
Hey. Rodney showed that blocking a gate works
Loved this show! I could kinda see why Stargate fans didn’t like it. The drama was dialed up to 11 and it felt less like Stargate sometimes, but man was I hooked!
I loved Stargate SGU as well; completely hooked me when I went back to watch it years after the shows had ended. I think it holds up better if you separate it from the other shows. When it came out Stargate fans expected it to be another SG-1 or Atlantis and when it wasn’t like those shows I think that probably turned people off. But it set out to be something different and I think it succeeded at that. In a way it was its strength and its downfall.
The idea of SGU wasn’t terrible. It just wasn’t well executed. I would have changed the entire reason for them being on the ship in the first place to something more meaningful. Getting trapped on the ship made for some boring stories and made the entire tone of the show very different from the typical Stargate experience. I would have explained their presence on the ship the same way SG1 rationalized going through the Stargate in the first place. To acquire advanced technology to fight an enemy that is beyond humanity. This series running alongside another SG series that introduces… Read more »
The communication stones were confusing. Because you had actors playing other characters, and you had to remember who was inhabiting whose body. And just to further confuse matters, when they used the stones, this affected the chain of command aboard the ship and you had to also keep track of that – this complication didn’t, I feel, ever add to the drama, it just added to the confusion. And though it might have meant some scenes not aboard the ship, they were intrinsically hampered by the fact that the characters weren’t physically there anyway. So there was an inherent limit… Read more »
As a long time SG1 fan who had enjoyed Atlantis quite a bit, I bounced right off SGU. I saw it as little more than an attempt to emulate Battlestar Gallacticas success and so not original at all. Reading this, I think LDP is probably what I missed out on the most.
The first time you use an acronym please say what it is. Not everyone resides in the same group of abbreviation users. Rather every specialty has its own insider jargon to make insider communication more efficient. From my time in the Navy LDP is a particular class of ships known as transport docks but I am not sure if that is what you meant. Even so I truly loved the USS Denver, LDP 9.
LDP is Lou Diamond Philips.
I have been streaming all of the Star gate series. At first I wasn’t sure I liked SGU… But was really disappointed when it ended when almost everyone was put into suspended animation for the long journey to the Mikyway galaxy? Was really hoping that there would have been another season to know if they survived or the ship made it? Kind of was left hanging ? As for those stones I really didnt like that Idea. As it took away from more interesting stories that could of been written about the other people on the ship. Or the ship… Read more »
They were going in between galaxies not to the Milky Way. Our galaxy is many many galaxies away, even too far away for hyperdrive let alone FTL.?
Interesting different people’s take on these series. I was an SG1 fan, although some seasons were weak, some better, but I always felt that Atlantis was less interesting, being more typical of tv sci Fi, with stock stereotypical character types and predictable plots.
SGU, on the other hand, had complex characters, exceptional acting, and many twists. I loved it!
My only qualm was the perception (at least) of how much the style had been lifted from BSG. Even with that, I had to say it was very well done.
My issue with SGU wasn’t that they were based on a ship, but that they changed the tone of the show. The 2 previous shows (SG-1 and SGA) had a light and more hopeful tone to it. I believe that since both current (at the time) shows were canceled, they felt that they needed to be more like Battlestar Galactica (which was the highest rated sci-fi show at the time). And switched to the darker (both literally and figuratively) more foreboding storyline. I enjoyed SG-1, SGA, and BSG all very much and thought both tones were fine. But SGU never… Read more »
This show made no sense in that the show rambled and the plot could not be followed
SGU was one of my favorite shows. They could have done so much with the show., with the ship, with the ancients, and with the cast.
I was very disappointed because SGU was cancelled so soon. Hope someone, someday will pick up the story about “Destiny”.
For me the biggest problem with SGU was that I did not like or care for any of the characters. It was such a stark contrast with the other series or even BSG that were based on great characters. And the stones made the characters even worse.
Agreed
Didn’t like sgu at all. It lacked everything that made sg1 and atlantis great.
And if it’s set on a ship without a stargate, it’s no about stargates .
We had enough sydy shows based on spaceships, that’s what made sg1 different.
They could have easily made the sets different by applying some filters. At least make them a different color to earth. The same could have been done with any earth location.
It wasn’t set on a ship without a stargate though. There was a stargate and it was prominent and vital to the story.
Destiny has it’s own gate room and a stargate featured in just about every episode in one way or another. I’m not sure why being set on the ship was all that jarring. It was the show’s ‘home base’ just like Cheyenne Mountain and Atlantis were in previous shows – except that it was mobile, somewhat mysterious and the crew was physically cut off.
I enjoyed the premise of Stargate Universe, just didn’t care for the execution as much. I watched it all, but I would have much preferred they stuck with the episodic adventures compared to the CW type drama that we got.
I get some of the use of the communication stones, as a way to get cameos of past Stargate characters.
They should have had a Teal’c cameo.
Stargate Universe was my favorite series. I loved the more serious tone, drama and meticulously placed humor (eli and Riley peeking on Vanessa with the kino, Vanessa talking about how cute dr. Caine is while the intercom is on, volkers erectile dysfunction side effect). The humor was there just more life-like and smart! Getting to know a large ensemble, was great! Not just the same 5 ppl in various situations, SGU explored so much of what it would really be like if an average person were under those circumstances. I for one, have the series on DVD, watch over and… Read more »
I heard a rumour of SGU being brought back. Anyone know if this is more than wishful thinking
Just wishful thinking, I’m sorry to say!
Ugh, I REALLY miss SGU, was such a beautiful sci-fi show. I love all SG, but disappointed it was ended, would have been better with a a movie to sum it up like Firefly, but I’m sure that’d be very difficult. How I sum it up is to assume they all died basically.
I loved SGU, and cried when they axed it. Stargate was an escape from this planet for me. The possibilities were endless. I beg you please don’t leave us hanging, or at least give it a proper ending.
Yeah, no one is buying this rationale. Everyone who tried watching it when it came out is pretty aware that it was trying to ape the success of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica by copying the tone and the atmosphere of a bunch of people who didn’t get along very well being stuck together in a limited space that forced them to constantly bump heads. Add that to the Mary Sue character who earned his place on the ship by being really really good at video games and you get a show that was a slap in the face to Stargate… Read more »
Original Showtime and onward SG-1 fan here who does not feel like the show was not a slap in the face.
And I loved every damn show that had anything to do with Stargate in it they were still on regular TV I’d be watching them now I hate to see if you get rid of all the original cast so won’t be right if you do away with Atlantis it won’t be right either hope you guys realize that
SGU was good. Few few bad storyline choices IMHO. But all writers got to make their characters stupid to force drama in.
The show ######. A small crew haphazardly thrown together aboard an ancient failing ship over which they have virtually no control, and the people split into three different factions at odds with each other all the time. Backbiting, back stabs, and bull crap in a blender with the on button already on.
The only disappointment for myself with SGU was that it ended. Great show with alot of talented actors who were just finding their feet on the show
I was skeptical of SGU at first but gave it a chance and it became my favorite overall series of the franchise – i regularly do a full rewatch a couple of times a year. It’s a shame that other fans became so bitter and disgruntled about it. I found BSG insufferable, I just don’t see the overwhelming similarity to it that some people ascribe to SGU.