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GateWorld Podcast: Should the Stargate Program Be Public?

Wednesday - August 5, 2009
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For years the writers of Stargate have drawn upon the S.G.C.’s super-secret nature for story-telling. What would happen if word got out on Earth that the U.S. military was visiting alien planets and making enemies? How would people respond? How would other governments respond? Should the news be announced deliberately? And how would it impact the stories that the franchise tells in the future?

The question has led to some interesting stories on Stargate SG-1 in particular, and it’s this week’s topic for the podcast! GateWorld Forum’s Tame Farrar steps up to co-host the show, for an important and challenging discussion topic.


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Discussion: Should the Stargate Program Be Public?

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  • Podcast #54: You guys are missing the ball. You are scared of change. You talk about not trusting the government. That alone is enough reason for the program to be public. After all, the program is completely under the control of government now. And the potential benefits (which you seem to fear) are huge. Freed of the shackles of keeping everything secret, they could unleash the resources of the entire planet to build whatever they want. Let free enterprise (or at least more then small cirle of people you can trust to keep the secret) at the technology and the ability to travel to other stars will lead to incredible discoveries. The Stargate would be available for addressing problems like overpopulation, world hunger, etc. Put the stargate on international territory (Kind of like Washington DC is not really part of any state) and get it out of the hands of the military. It would then become a center of commerce, travel, and culture. This would definitely be a whole new world. Which means its fertile ground for writing. They could create a new series centered around the concept. Force the writers to think about the impact this would have. Make the military nothing more then a background element – it’s there to handle emergencies, but not in any way the center of the show. At least some episodes (maybe all of them?) would deal with different groups and how they think the stargate should be used or not used. Ranging from crackpot type groups like Flat Earth Society to more plausible groups that raise legimate concerns that make you question how things are being done. There would also be a terrorist element as well – there will be people that resort to violence to address their fear of the unknown and resistance to the massive changes that would be taking place. Personal request: no big bad guys. I’m tired of enemies like the Guald and the Ori. They are a menace for a couple of episodes and then just end up looking ridiculous and ineffective because our heroes have to be able to make progress in the fight against them. Perhaps such a series should be based on of the first colonies (sort of Alpha site opened up to the public) and it’s efforts to become self sustainable and meet the goals of their sponsors (which may be conflicting with each other). That way you don’t necessarily have to deal with media and public reaction in every episode. Or maybe a series (or season) based on the PR campaign that does a slow reveal. Instead of just calling a press conference and revealing it all at once, you create a program of carefully controlled “leaks” and release of infomation. You could maybe have some new upcoming threat that allows humanity to be united in their preperation for it’s coming? Probably a few missteps along the way as they misjudge public reaction, but work toward goal of public program that benefits all of humanity (Earth born and otherwise). After all, the military of Earth is now the dominant force in the galaxy. Isn’t it a bit silly that the people of Earth are the only ones that are ignorant of that fact?

    Oh and another thing – the factory where the ships are being built is a small part of the puzzle when building a fleet. You have to have a whole network of suppliers, gathering of raw materials, shipping parts, etc. Plus all the people involved.

  • Absolutely not! Never! I like the idea that the Stargate could be real. Its current, with realistic ppl, with the USAF. I love all that. But if they made it public, it would no longer feel real. It would ruin A LOT of the appeal for me.

  • That would really ruin Stargate. As it is right now, the Stargate COULD be real. If it went public, it could not.

  • i wouldn’t mind it going public. i didn’t feel this way years ago (right up to season 10 actually), but i feel it could work now. why? because it would be different, and give the writers a wealth of new ideas to write off of.

  • Yes it should be made public, it simply getting unrealistic that many personal and scientists and politicans could know about and keep it all a secrete.
    Do the writers have the gut to go public, probably not.
    But I just want to see Atlantis decloak in front of a huge crowd.

  • I think it should be revealed! And the perfect way to do it would be right out of The Day The Earth Stood Still… An Al’Kesh appears and lands in the square in Washington, D.C. and while surrounded by the military, Tok’ra and Jaffa representatives appear to speak to the Tauri…

  • Never really understand the stargate could be real mindset. That thought never crossed my mind and when I hear that other people think that I just shake my head in amazement/ bewilderment. They would get along great with my 12 year old.

    I too, would love to see Atlantic decloaking scene.

  • I can’t belive you people. What we have here is a Sci Fi universe that, for once, makes sense… sort of. It could all be for real. And no (decil76), it’s not about actually believeing it’s for real, but more like having the illusion that it could. Make the Stargate go public, and all is shattered.

    The arguement that it should go public because it would be impossible to keep it a secret makes sense. But people forget one thing. Do you want every episode to revolve around the media circus surrounding the Stargate Program? Because that’s what you’ll get by the means of your so called “realism”.

    You people who think the Stargate should be public have totally misunderstood the whole point of Stargate. Go watch something else.

  • I know I am super late to this but i had to comment cause it is something i had thought a lot about.

    A lot of talk has been directed towards if it should go public because of practical real world situations. I however think that the argument should really be made towards does it fit into the story, would it have advanced the stories that were told and the quality of the show.

    Before Season 9 I would have said that going public would have been unnecessary and would only have added more government sub plots. While the people’s reactions would have been interesting it wouldn’t have added anything to the Goa’uld plot.

    My position completely changes after season 9 however because the ori as the main antagonist completely justifies going in that direction. The ori are “gods” they are a religion (or cult) and based on the standards of the USA and almost every major country in the world we would not be able to keep them from spreading there religion because it strikes at the core of our most basic, most important principles the freedom of religion and speech.

    The story would have to concentrate on how the hell can we defeat this evil that is quickly spreading and gaining power throughout the world. Especially when everything in our moral standings for almost 300 years has told us that we must let what is happening happen. It would bring the fight straight home and wouldn’t be about explosions and spaceships. It would be an invasion of a whole different kind.

    People are always looking for a new/different approach to sci-fi. I personally think that a passive, religious invasion that would cause the end of free will on our planet would be a great new approach.

    Sorry its so long but what I’m saying is that when you can go in a direction that brings so much more material (and great, possibly revolutionary material at that) why not go that way? why not change things up a little? Why not take a risk? Cause if the results make the show that much better wouldn’t it all be worth it?

  • Personally I think it works better as a secret. The best part of the early seasons was it seems like it could be occuring in our universe. As seasons went on, and we ened up with bases in other galaxies, spaceships, colonies, bases, etc.. I got more unrealistic to me that they’d keep such a giant project under wraps. If its a new project and they explored some planets thats one thing.. setting up permanent base in another galaxy.. programs getting to big to keep under wraps. I found that aspect made it less believable. damned if you do, damned if don’t.

  • What is your favorite episode from Stargate SG-1 Season Eight, and why?

    Threads. Unfortunately, I did not have cable TV when Season Eight aired, and the Season 8 DVD set that I purchased did not have the extended version of the episode. So, I have yet to see the extended version of the episode.

    Jim

  • Why is Threads my favorite episode?

    In addition to the emotional quadrangle of Sam, Jack, Pete Shanahan, and Kerry Johnson, we see the virtual elimination of both Anubis (Earth’s most capable enemy until the Ori) and Oma Desala. We also get to see Daniel Jackson cheat death again.


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