So the blues are returning.
An attack on Stargate command, I hoping that reveals the project to earth citizens finally.
Twins destiny sounds good.

All those eps sound amazing and I cannot wait to see them!
The details are just further proof of what stories could still be told if SGU were allowed to continue beyond Season 2. In seasons ahead who only knows who or what they’d encounter in the space and planets they go to!
I sincerely hope Mr. Brad Wright is successful in his talks with MGM, SyFy or whoever it is that has the power to allow SGU to continue. The people of Destiny deserve to have their story told, their mission completed, and then finally allowed to return to Earth at last…*assuming* that a successful mission and Earth is actually their ultimate fate.

@Jim Hutto, maybe you missed JM’s blog this week. Read his quote. “Answer: SGU’s fate on the network has already been decided. They canceled the show.” and “We talked about doing a story that would offer details on the seeding process but, alas, we were canceled not renewed given the opportunity to pursue other interests like not working.”

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/

SGU and Stargate is DEAD!

Also, if you looked on the forum one of the forum members called up the workers and some of the crew are leaving and taking down the sets so there is no productions nothing is happening Stargate is DEAD and will be until a miracle happens.

I think it`s the actors and producers that is the main reason for all stargate is canceled now. Because the world is not just USA and Canada. Here in Europe, there are at least one chanal i EVERY country that airs Stargate series. Here in Norway, it`s four. And two of them airs SG-1, SGA and SGU now days.
It seems like they don`t know there is a world outside america too.

There’s apparently a lot of people out there who don’t understand how this whole process works. Syfy didn’t ‘cancel’ SGU, it simply didn’t renew it. MGM is free to take it elsewhere but there are no takers and from what I’ve heard, no one even mildly interested. It doesn’t get the ratings necessary to justify the cost of the show anywhere. They have to have a way to make money off of the show and since they can’t actually force people to watch it and people aren’t willing to do so of their own free will, there’s just nowhere for it to go. So SGU, as it currently exists as far as a television series, is ‘dead’.

As for the sets being taken down, this does not necessarily mean that they’re being destroyed. Sets are routinely put in storage for a period of time. They’re expensive to build and are often re-used on different shows/movies. And space isn’t unlimited. Particularly now with shows having staggered seasons that a given space is used for more than one show. So sets are often taken down between seasons. I don’t know for certain whether this is done for SGU’s sets, but it is done in the industry. So it’s not like an episode of House Crashers where they’re just going in with sledge hammers and going to town on the stuff. The major sets will be held onto for at least a little while. Sometimes decades, even if not used. They find pieces of old sets around studios all the time. Now if they start auctioning off major set pieces, then that’s another story. When that’s done, it basically means that story is over. And I’m talking only about major set pieces. If you see Eli’s sweater on an auction, that doesn’t mean anything…I assure you, they have more than one.

Now, as for a season 3, this would be almost impossible at this point. Too much time has passed. If there were another potential home for SGU, it would have been found by now. So if there has been ANY interest, what they were willing to pay obviously wasn’t enough to make it worthwhile. And some of the actors on the show would not sit around and wait. So SGU as a television show is basically dead. That’s not to say there couldn’t be a tv movie, direct-to-dvd release or mini-series. I haven’t heard of anything that would entirely preclude this idea. But they would likely be at least a year or more off. And with much of the creative force behind Stargate taking off and the unlikelihood of many of the actors being available for a return, it wouldn’t likely bare much resemblance to the SGU that some people seemed to like.

As for international audiences, don’t take this the wrong way, but there aren’t enough of you to matter. If a show as a hit in India or China, yeah, that would be something. Most other countries just don’t have enough people. And most other countries don’t have as many people glued to their television sets. Us Americans are lazy couch potatoes in general. That makes us good tv fodder. In most other countries, the average person does things like go out for walks. Here, the average person only goes out for a walk if they’re going to get chips to eat while they’re watching tv. Obviously not all americans are this way, but our ‘average’ is pretty much in that range. It would have to be a huge hit in, say, Norway, for a station there to be willing to fund it. And while some there may watch it, it’s not enough. How do I know? Because if it were a big enough hit there, they’d have made the call to MGM and worked out a deal. It’s basic business. If there’s a market for something, it sells. If there’s not, it doesn’t. So whether or not the SGU fans like to admit it, they’re very much in the minority. Some like that idea because they can use it to put themselves on a pedestal. But there won’t be any SGU season 3 up on that pedestal either. :P

So, for the SGU fans, redirect your desires. Season 3 won’t happen but there’s still time to make SOMETHING happen if enough of you really want it.

Erg. “Exploratively” not “evaporatively,” and “tons to lose,” not “tons to love.” Although I suppose both typos also work.

I can confirm via a source who works at Bridge Studios that as of the 14th of this month the sets are still standing (unless they have been taken down in the past 3 days, which I find unlikely).

The Space network were also interested in picking up the show (why wouldn’t they be, it’s a hit on their network) but as most people suspected they simply could not afford to do so.

This is as specific as the last press release from SPACE got:

“Premiering in Oct. 2009 on SPACE to a record-breaking audience of 624,000 viewers, SGU went on to become a ratings juggernaut as the most-watched series on the channel.”

[...] Quelle: GateWorld.net [...]

And people shouldn’t put their hopes on Sky1 from the UK. SGU’s ratings are abysmal in season 2 on that channel. The season 1 premiere got nearly 900,000 viewers overnight. In season 2 the ratings have fallen below 200,000 viewers. SGU is a flop in the UK, like it is in the USA.

@ Tanith. I also have a source at bridge Studios and I can also confirm that the SGU sets are still standing, but I also have a source at MGM in Century City which says that MGM has “taken SGU off the books”. The Teamsters Dispatch clerk told me the show is done and will be “wrapping up”. You shouldnt mislead readers. The production list at Teamsters 155 (Vancouver) here: http://teamsters155.org/WebDocuments/rptProdACtiveList.pdf lists an 8-month period of time where the sets will be struck and pieces will be auctioned off. There is no new production compant which has been formed for any movie or mini-series.

People who know how these things work dont need to wait for Joe Mallozzi or Brad Wright to tell them. They can just go to the supply/vendor sources and the Labor Union to know what is going into production and what is not.

Joe Mallozzi had the nerve to say that the Atlantis movie was “put on hold indefinitely”, when it was NEVER IN PRODUCTION, and never greenlighted by MGM. So, if it was never started, how could it be put on hold? BTW, the Atlantis sets were not mothballed, they were DESTROYED (contact at Bridge).

The posturing here is almost humorous. SGU is not ‘off the books’. It’s still airing and the sets aren’t yet destroyed and unless the people at MGM are monumentally stupid, they would do what other studios do and bill any work that’s done taking down the sets to the show. Why would the studio want to take the hit on those costs? At the same time, that’s not an indication that there’s anything else going on. Make no mistake about it. The show is dead right now. Sure, Wright is trying to find some way for things to go on – why would he not be? Will he succeed? Probably not.

Also, parts of the sets on a show are always destroyed after it goes off the air. Parts of the sets are often destroyed after each season. But parts of the sets of all shows, no matter what anyone’s contact says, is always stored. Sets aren’t an all-or-nothing deal. Take Atlantis for example. Obviously the gate room stairs wouldn’t have been stored. And the walls of the gate room, which had changed over the seasons, also would not have been stored. You can’t actually store an entire set. But things like the control panels and display screens are another matter. They would have had a lot of them and some of them would be in storage. Copies of the uniforms would also be in storage. No single contact at a studio could answer all of such questions. If anyone has real contacts, they should be able to tell you this. Way too much is going on for any one person to know everything that’s going on. And even if a studio has no interest whatsoever in storing something, it’s often bought up by prop companies (or sometimes even owned by prop companies) that hold onto it to be used for other things.

So yes, it’s a fantasy at this point to think that there will be a third season of SGU. It’s not impossible…Bill Gates could announce he’s a closet SGU fan and wants to fund a third season…but he probably would have made the call by now. But some form of movie or mini-series isn’t outside the realm of possibility. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather it didn’t happen. I’ve made it pretty clear over time that I wasn’t happy with SGU or the direction they went with in it. But I’m a realist. If there was money in it, they’d do it. Even if a fire came through and wiped out all of the sets and everything in storage. If there was money in it, they’d still make it happen. But there isn’t money in it. No one was watching. Ratings fell more and more everywhere. It just wasn’t good.

So sets standing or not, teamsters information or not and contact information or not, none of it matters. The show is dead right now. This is known as it’s been officially confirmed. Brad Wright is the only one who knows exactly what’s being done to try to continue it in some way and what, if any, chances there are of that happening. He is/was trying to make something happen. We don’t know what that is/was and we don’t know for certain that he still is. For all we know, he’s given up on SGU and is either trying to garner some interest for another Stargate show or he may even be trying to get the SGA or SG1 movies going again. Those who are ‘in the know’ on what he’s doing would not likely share that information unless asked to otherwise they’d no longer be ‘in the know’. And Wright doesn’t seem the type to want to share that info with the public. His stance on SGU makes it pretty clear that he has little concern for the fans of the stuff that pays his bills.

@psw – Thanks for the ratings. That seems to coincide with the talk of ‘average’ ratings that I saw on articles about it.

So in other words unless SGU gets a 2 hour movie or miniseries there is no way it will get a season 3. That sucks i will watch live in the hopes ratings gives us a miniseries or movie at least to have closure, i hate when they leave a series in a cliffhanger.

@ mythos LOL! You speak with such authority and you have NO real facts whatsoever. I actually do work in the MGM building in Century City, and I have a contact at Bridge. Where are you getting YOUR information? LMAO!

The Atlantis sets were DESTROYED. That is a fact. The Teamsters are the ONLY workforce there can be in those studios, and when it comes time to either do production, ot strike sets or even to store them, Teamsters will know. So, please stop trying to speak as if you know anything real, because obviously, you dont.

@mythos I dont really concern myself with generalities. Im talking specifics. The Atlantis gateroom, Weir’s office, and most of the interior corridors were DESTROYED, not mothballed and not stored. The other spurious information regarding your subjective judgements as being “stupid” of them, I wont speculate. But however it came about, those sets were destroyed. Other key pieces were auctioned off. The gates, however, remain.

And who mentioned anything about “going crazy on the sets”? I dont purport to know “how its done”. I can only state with certainty that the Atlantis sets were destroyed and not mothballed for later use.

Perfect ending for SGU:
Scene: [Robert Carlyle standing in the gate room, A familiar blue police box from the 50's slowing materializes in front of him, Rush takes key from pocket unlocks door pauses turns to camera and says:]

“Come on, you must have at least suspected.”

[Closes door of T.A.R.D.I.S. it disappears from gate room, reappears out in space beside Destiny, T.A.R.D.I.S. tows Destiny back to Earth]

[Roll End Credit: The End]

forget syfy and bring it to another network

@Jim – I said probably because I’m actually not entirely sure that they could. Based on population and the relatively higher interest in television here compared to most of the rest of the world, I don’t know that there is enough of an english-language market elsewhere for them to support SGU even combined. At the very least, I think the math would end up being surprising. Since language dubbing usually adds a time factor that tends to offset seasons, it’s likely that only english-language markets would count for the current season.

@mythos Well there are subtitles,they take less time,but yes I agree,for currennt,actually next season only english language countries would be in play,that’s why I named them specifically,but it’s quite obvious that ain’t gonna happen and to tell you the truth I don’t believe that even in the future,significantly close one that is..we can count on any Stargate show to continue as a series. Miniseries,or a movie..direct to whatever..dvd,blue-ray,maybe..just maybe.

@Jim – I would agree. No network is likely going to take a chance on another stargate show after SGU got such poor ratings. It would have been better if it had been cancelled for other reasons.

@mythos Yeah,true,that’s sort of a frustrating irony of it all!

@axcel1 I know,right? I understand what you’re saying because I feel much the same way.(I also liked SGU regardless of it’s many plot holes)And not only that they didn’t care,but and I wrote about that more than once,their direct conflict with those fans over the net didn’t help either.
And just to be clear,I never supported those rants,from that part of the fandom,but at the end of the day,they are the people who’d essentialy been “writing” stargate PTB’s pay checks for more than a decade,so to get up on a soap box and launch out retaliatory responses and get into verbal “wars” with the fans is so,not only inappropriate,but literally “not a smart”,if you know what I mean,move on the part of a show producers/writers.

What I mean is that its downfall was caused by more than one factor.

Stargate is dead in any form, the backlash from SGA and SGU fans will make any backers weary of trying to take on the project…I liked SGA, minus the blow up of every Arrora class ship they step on (can you say shleprock)..I like SGU minus the slow character development….but we are where we are…watch the final 10 eps and never watch the Syfy channle again is my easy answer….I guess a mind simulating program will gave to be reserved for books

yay! Just found out that SGU is returning on March 7th! Nothing quite like finding out that one’s favorite show returns on the day before one’s birthday! Best early b-day present ever! Many thanks for the happy news, GateWorld :)