39 Responses

  1. Jim Hutto
    July 7, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    A spinning Stargate…… I can see some jokes about the whole thing spinning. But it is cool looking none-the-less. But why the hell do they have to make it spin? What if you are dialing and your ship takes a jolt? Is there a danger of getting ran over by the thing if it gets knocked loose? But seriously. Looks good… Gate looks cool, and the ship looks cool if not aged a bit.

  2. Sylvia
    July 7, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    Cool gate, but the story and characters just not doing it for me. Darn it, just looks too depressing. Unfortunately these trailers make me less inclined to watch with each one they release. I want to see more Stargate, but not like this.

  3. talyn2k1
    July 7, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    The gate looks very cool!
    Rush’s dialog is interesting, and I like the comment that the ship is falling apart. Considering its been out there for millions of years, it would be a bit too much if it was still pristine and new-looking (ala Atlantis)

  4. Ryster
    July 7, 2009 at 3:03 pm |

    As others have said, I’m unsure if I like the whole idea of the spinning stargate or not. Seems “odd” to me.

  5. dekion
    July 7, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    I am constantly amazed by the resistance to change in fandom (all fandom, not just Stargate, but the example here is obvious). I believe the idea here is “evolve or die.” I have heard nothing but complaints from stargate fans (with few moderating voices) for years.
    “Now its crap, Michael Shanks left”
    “Now its crap, They are on Sci Fi Channel”
    “Jonas sucks”
    “Now its crap, Mickael Shanks is back.”
    “Bring Back Jonas”
    “Now its crap, they are using all their creative juices on Atlantis.”
    “The Ori are not as cool of a villain as the Goa’uld.”
    “Bring Back RDA, lose Ben Browder.”
    “It’s turning into Farscape” (although all of the above are ridiculous, that one pretty much takes the cake. As much as I love Stargate, it isn’t half as creative or ground breaking as Farscape {although it is A LOT more consistent})
    “This show hasn’t been as good since Season 5” (that one is the gist of the podcast comments).
    “It’s too much like Battlestar Galactica” (same comment concerning Farscape, but more so)

    What it boils down to is Stargate (the franchise) has gotten a bit stale over the years (much like Star Trek until the Abrams revival). For a show to survive (like Star Trek on TV no longer does) it must change, evolve, become deeper, more intellectual, less pop-corny. Stargate really started down that road in season 9 (Vala burning alive, for example), and Stargate Universe is likely the next step in that necessary evolution. I am not saying it will be good (it could be the worst SciFi in decades), but we are bickering and commenting negatively on minutia, nothing more.

  6. Craig MacD.
    Craig MacD.
    July 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    I like what we’ve seen of the show so far. Looking forward to the premiere. I thought that the female character with Scott (Brian J. Smith) was Elyse Levesque (sp?) aka Chloe Armstrong (or has the name changed again?) but I could be wrong.

  7. Coronach
    July 7, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    Yeah, I can say with 99% certainty that the girl in that scene with Scott is definitely Elyse (Chloe).

  8. Barryke
    July 7, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    But it is round, is _has_ to spin!

  9. Barryke
    July 7, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    More gate action! (for the eagle-eyed)

    A guy seen “shooting” through the gate, and just before that what seems like the “first” man arriving on the ship.

    Seen in the
    SyFy 2009 : Umbrella Spot video promo at 0m25 (inverse counter)

  10. stargate134
    July 7, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    ”Spinning is so mush cooler than not spinning”

    I’m Excited :D

  11. joshed
    July 7, 2009 at 5:42 pm |

    I cannot wait for this show.

  12. Alan
    July 7, 2009 at 5:43 pm |

    Woah!!! How awesome!!! And seeing the way the Stargate dials-up is so incredibly cool!!!

    I’m really looking forward to this!!! Roll on October!!! :D

  13. solarhelios
    July 7, 2009 at 5:47 pm |

    For me the Woman on the Pic with Scott (Brian J. Smith) looks very similar to Leela Savasta (Captain Alice Vega – Atlantis Season 5).

    I would love to see her back on Stargate!

  14. kzap333
    July 8, 2009 at 3:06 am |

    Hang on the gate spinning shouldn’t work, should it, the whole point was the arrows matched the chevrons but if everything spins that’s just stupid.
    I think they just changed it because they thought they should, with Atlantise it sort of made sense this time it seems more likse
    “We changed the gate for SGA how can we change it again”
    and it looks silly.

    I’m more interested than before but it still looks BSG-ish.

    If I find out they just made the trailers to look like BSG and the series really isn’t I will be even more annoyed for them making it out to be something it’s not.
    No one has told us yet why they wanted to change it?

  15. kzap333
    July 8, 2009 at 3:12 am |

    Why wouldn’t fans be resistant to change, you wouldn’t be a very good fan if you were happy for your favorite show in the world to become something else.
    You have to remember most fans idealize the show, to me anyway it is perfect, nothing could posible make it better, therfor any change must make it worse.

    I didn’t care about any other changed because the STYLE of the show was kept the same, it always felt the same to watch and now that’s what they’re changing.
    Also what you may not relaise is many of the people who didn’t like the other changes have leaft and it’s new people complaining now.

    The Internet is a big place, there is ALWAYS going to be people who don’t like a change get used to it!
    There is one thing worse than complaining and that’s complaining about the people complaining.

  16. Gate Geek - It’s a New Wave Universe | Jedi Knight Academy
    July 8, 2009 at 7:59 am |

    […] the premiere of Warehouse13 on SciFi SyFY.  But those lovely, sneaky folks at GateWorld already have it.  (It looks great! Um.  Sorry.)  Plus, the first official episode picture.  It’s akin to […]

  17. US06154
    July 8, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    lolz, the whole gate spinning, as someone said, doesn’t make sense (imagine a locker combination lock, for that’s exactly what it is)you dial the inner (or outer) ring, against a constant or static marker. The best visual affects were when none of the rings turned, seen on perhaps 2 (or more episodes), when that Nox girl just brought up her arms in an arc, the gate’s chevrons correspondingly litup. When the alien entity left with the harceses(?), the gate just dialed itself the same way. On Atlantis it happened a couple of times too. This whole gate spinning looks like a water wheel attached to an old flour mill. :) okay, I exagerate a bit :)

  18. US06154
    July 8, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    of course, not to forget, the logistics of having a free standing wheel, thats probably a few tons, having to spin just teathered in some way by 1/10th of the wheel’s surface area. :)

  19. Horcrux
    July 8, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    I like it, the gate spining, remember this gate has to be unique in order to work in different galaxies. My guess is that the gate rotates in one direction and the inner track rotates in the oposite way alignin with the star symbols.

    I agree that the show must change, you cant put the same premise with other actors, the show will simply die. This time they dont have a fully supllied base to return to, or posible back up if someone gets left behind because the ship jumps to a new location. Its a new direction Stargate hasnt explored and will bring a interesting mix to the show.

  20. Stargate SG-1 - Pagina 101 - 9lives
    July 8, 2009 at 1:50 pm |

    […] is trouwens eergisteren denk ik een nieuwe teaser van SGU online gezet( GateWorld New SGU teaser: ‘Survive’ ), je ziet de eerste keer de gate in actie, en die manier van filmen is echt Tot nu toe ziet het er […]

  21. RickyC
    July 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm |

    Hmm I dont think the gates spinning enough. I want it to spin more.

  22. dekion
    July 8, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    First let me say that complaining is fine, as long as it isn’t petty and meaningless. I think we all should share our opinions in a constructive, meaningful dialogue where some level of understanding and cooperation can be reached, and if we are really lucky, change can occur. That being said, we are talking about a TV show. No matter how hard we try we cannot make a TV show “important,” it is entertainment, and that is all. Is it great, sure. Is it interesting, yes. Is it important . . . not even close. World hunger is important. Religious tolerance is importance (including to those without a religion). Universal understanding and acceptance is important. Now, admittedly, there are rare occasions when TV (and movies, and most usually literature) deal with these important issues, and in those rare instances they become important. That being said, we are discussing how the stargate spins. How it spins? On that note, I think it looks cool, and in the end it will have no bearing on the quality of the show at all. Is Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe “important,” not in the grand scheme of things.
    Secondly, there is no dialogue in any meaningful sense. People (myself included) are spouting sound bytes (pun intended) at faceless online entities (that’s us) with no human interaction at all. Since there is no interaction, there is no progress, and thus it becomes meaningless. People can not like change all they want. I can recall being upset when Sinclair left on B5, but the show was much better without him (as the HUGO’s will attest), and I was annoyed when Mulder disappeared from the X-Files, but at that point the show was about 2 years past its prime anyway. The difference is I was a fan (meaning fanatic), so I watched anyway. I trusted in the creators like JMS, Joss Whedon, David Chase, etc. I trused that their career (and the training they had to get them that career) would deliver a satisfying experience more often than not. In the end, Stargate is about the same thing, mankind being thrust among the stars WAY TOO SOON, and our uncanny ability (some would say unbelievable ability, but I digress) to meet those challenges we should not be able to meet. Isn’t that exactly what Stargate Universe is about, a challenge we cannot possibly overcome, but we will, we always do (well, at least 99% of shows do). In the end, the show hasn’t changed in any meaningful sense. It has become more “Star-Trek-y” with ships, beaming, and the like. Names of changed, and the characters/aliens they belonged to, but in the end the core is the same. Is Universe darker . . . looks like, but since it was likely SciFi would not have made an SG-1/Atlantis clone (they just funded 10 years of it, they were probably tired of it), they wanted something edgier, but still in the same wonderful universe that Glassner and Wright so artfully recreated 12 years ago.
    I am sorry it upsets you that I disagree and think that all of this complaining is childish, that is your prerogative. I simply think when we find a way to solve Darfur, world hunger, religious/racial/ethnic/sexual intolerance, poverty, etc., then this MIGHT reach the status of important (or at least if it dealt with it every once in a while), but until then it is simply wonderful escapist entertainment, and I will enjoy it as such.

  23. Atlantis Rocks
    Atlantis Rocks
    July 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm |

    Well I now don’t care any more if people shout me down, I have my POV and the pro SGU’s can shout an curse and say you cant judge a book by its cover blah d blah et..they can say your a complainer etc..(this rant is not directed to anyone in particular just in general an my personal overall feelings in the god awful mess)BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS some off us didn’t want a change, some of us where quite happy with the shows as they were, some of us cant stand the new bloody trend for depressing, dramas laced up to be realism sic fi,If you like that sort of thing that’s fine an dandy an you are entitled to that opinion. BUT FOR CHRIST SAKE gave those of that don’t a bloody break that dont, there is nothing wrong with wanting to keep the old show, there’s nothing wrong with wanting a new show. They are just different an have different things that appeal to different people, nobody’s wrong an nobody’s right.IMO SGU an this is just IMO the trailer’s “suck” they are boring, horrible and have a terrible cast line up an its just not for me “Stargate”, this is my POV and I don’t expect people to agree. SGU doesn’t do it for me at all but SGA did so whats so wrong with that!,its as plain an simple as that,personaly I am at the point where Stargate in as a whole go disappear into the nearest black hole, this, is nearly a year down the line and nothings changed still the status quo, no SGA movie nothing!. This is now an absurd situation which could have been avoided with both shows being done. I for one, am no longer bothered what they do, a SGA movie that will most likely never happened or a show that’s so unappealing that I’d rather watch paint dry.

    Its a joke, a very bad joke but a joke non the less and its the fans or at least some of them that loss out what ever way you look at it.

    Also I’m sorry but real life problems are for the real world an I for one am happy to go on marches and sigh petition etc.. an do my bit an have done on many occasions but my sic fi for me has always and always will be my escape from realism and from the hum drum of daily life ie Reality. Sci fi for me used to be about fun and entertainment, thanks to the axing of SGA and now this new wonderful show that’s well an truly now gone.

  24. GateHunter
    July 8, 2009 at 5:51 pm |

    “What it boils down to is Stargate (the franchise) has gotten a bit stale over the years”

    Its gotten stale because people working on it have run out of ideas and then not been fired as they should have been. And most of them are back for this new dark and dreary looking series.

    ” For a show to survive … it must change, evolve, become deeper, more intellectual, less pop-corny.”

    That’s what you think. I think its utter rubbish.
    Do it RIGHT and do it GOOD, and you can keep going.

    Things do not have to change. They often do, and almost always for the worse. A lot of us want the old style. The people who make this only for the money don’t. The want to get rid of the old guard and bring in the kids. Apparently they are trying this with a young cast and depressing style. And sure they’ll just do that (and hopefully get canceled after a few months), but its not going to be in quiet – those of us who detest that kind of depressing rubbish are going to say that over and over.

    “I think we all should share our opinions in a constructive, meaningful dialogue ”

    And I think I couldn’t care less about what your opinion is.

  25. dekion
    July 8, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    @ GateHunter
    How old are you?
    just wondering.
    If you don’t care what people’s opinions are why are you here?
    Obviously, you only care about yours (you said so in your post).
    You call it depressing . . . really.
    Did you think BSG was depressing . . . really.
    Most have hailed it as inspiring, since the characters, allegories for humanity and our many foibles, overcame the most horrible circumstances and came out stronger, better, and wiser. They prevailed against seemingly impossible odds, and yet people constantly said it was “depressing.”
    Blake 7 was depressing (they all died in the end), but BSG (and likely Universe) will end happily, at least to some degree.
    I understand you don’t want shows to change, but SG-1 changed several times (first starting in season 6, then again in season 9). Atlantis changed (in season 2, when the isolation of Atlantis ended, the show experienced a shift in tone that was clear and unmistakable. They were no longer alone). Change is constant, change is good. I agree that if you have the right people then you can keep up a good show, but the people to make it happen, nor do the fans (as much as we think we do), it is the money. Without ratings, there is no show. The Stargate ratings have been hurting for a long while, and it has never received critical acclaim (the only other reason to keep a show on the air), thus it was not going to last for long. Making the occasional change in tone (like that present in Universe), especially a change that has garnered both ratings and critical acclaim (in the case of Battlestar Galactica, Lost, Fringe, etc) is likely a good move.
    One more thing, in regards to the acting. There was a comment that the cast looks bad, but there are two actors on this cast who are well known to TV audiences (Ming Na from her long run on ER, and LDP. LDP alone has a higher Q rating than RDA did when SG-1 started (and now). For that matter, so did Ming Na.
    So in closing, I will watch stargate Universe and give it a chance, because I am a grown up and am willing to give people who are good at their job a chance to do their job. You don’t have to watch it (no one does), I am sure there is something on TV you like, go watch that.
    Your statement that if you do it right you can keep going totally ignores the realities of Hollywood (for instance), that actor contract get larger, network’s general cut budget every year, seldom do they increase it, at it is VERY rare for any show (especially a scifi show) to make it to 5 years. It is amazingly difficult. Atlantis had a heck of a run, and SG-1 had an amazing run. I hope Universe has a great run as well (5 years would be about right, but if it only has two, that makes it better than half the stuff on TV).
    Okay, that was actually the in closing part.

  26. Sylvia
    July 8, 2009 at 7:42 pm |

    I am in complete agreement with Atlantis Rocks, if someone doesn’t like what they see in the trailers, spoilers, cast and crew interviews, they have as much a right to their opinion as those who do like these things.
    No one is better or worse for having their own perspective.
    I for one, think they should have channeled all this energy and time and money into making SGA better and in making terrific SG1 movies, not throwing out what many of us liked about the franchise.
    They way they are going about this just makes me very angry and sad that they had so little respect for SGA and it’s audience that they go out of their way to differentiate SGU from it.
    It feels like a personal insult (I realize it is not).

  27. Atlantis Rocks
    Atlantis Rocks
    July 9, 2009 at 6:38 am |

    Just like to add, please don’t put Blake’s 7 in the same group as BSG or SGU, it SO out classes both these, it may now be VERY dated yes very dated, but this was a “family show” and showed on BBC1 originally at 7.20pm in the evenings on a Monday, I have always been a Blake’s 7 fan an I watched it as a child, as yes they did get killed at the end but that was after half the original actors had left or been replace so to be fair it was not the same show an really was the only way it could end. Sorry for me its an insult to compare it with BSG (an BSG was shown only after the 9o/clock watershed), but than I think BSG is an insult to the original as IMHO that was the best, again I will say that some people want sci fi to be escapism, fun/action and ENTERTAINING all the dark/angst/realism come reality come docu crap is just that crap for some of us. People have different views an or life experiences which do influence what you enjoy, sorry for me BSG was a depressing an dreary story line an I didn’t watch it because I don’t like or need to watch that sort of thing. I think the point everyone’s missing, is we are all different and we all see or want different things from the same product, which in its self is fine, that’s why there is a place for both types of show, but TPTB continue to tell us that SGU is better NO its just a different direction. How can you tell a large group of people this is better an not infer that the old was bad, when so many of us didn’t see that.

    With regards to anything that’s “critical acclaimed” I couldn’t give a toss as this to me means nothing. I don’t care that critics thought BSG was great and the same applies to SGU if it happens also even with SG1/SGA who cares what a critic or the TV piers think, its what people choose to watch that matters, which is why I guess SGA won the Peoples Choice awards. For me because of the way this has been done, I really am now about sick of Stargate, an I am on a very short leash as to whether I will even bother to continue watching SGA or reading stuff as its gone on for to long, apathy reigns. So instead of keeping a fan, there losing one, so I hope they can make back the numbers with new fans, but I thought they wanted to increase the fan base, so the maths don’t work out, as it could just end up with the same amount as the previous shows with the new placing the old.

    Its just such a bloody mess that was an should have been avoided IMHO.

  28. US06154
    July 9, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    @ Atlantis Rocks.. Wooo hoo, another Blake 7 Fan. yeah, I grew up watching Blake 7, Original BSG (Lorne Green) and Doctor Who (Jon Pertwee). Infact, I had made a replica of the Orac with blinking xmas lights and everything for a school project. Ahh, good times, good times.. :'(

  29. dekion
    July 9, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    @Atlantis Rocks
    I have to admit, I am not up on all of the abbreviation lingo used on line (it took me a minute to realize that TPTB was The Powers That Be). That being said, that was an excellent post, and you raised some great points concerning Blake 7, and the different desires of different viewers to see different things. I will have to admit that I disagree with you (respectfully) in regards to BSG old vs. new. I felt the old show was awesome, when I was 8, but now it feels too childish to me. Perhaps it is because of my life experiences, my interests, etc., just as you suggested. I still enjoy watching the old show on occasion (usually the pilot, or The Hand of God, or maybe even The Living Legends).
    I think the point I am trying to make regarding the critical acclaim is that if it means something to us or not, it means something to the studios, and the people who create the show. We can love a show all we like (I loved Crusade when TNT wasn’t interfering with it, as well as Earth: Final Conflict when Tribune wasn’t mucking up the works) but our love alone will not keep a show on the air (Man, I am sure we all wish it did). It takes one of two things. Primarily, ratings. Without a good Nielson number all shows are cancelled.(don’t get me started on how I think the entire Nielson rating system is a load of crap, my post will be even longer). If you don’t have Nielson numbers the only thing that can save you is a lot of critical buzz (such as that received by Battlestar, Dollhouse, The Soprano’s {or any cable show, it appears}, etc.) The reason critical acclaim is so meaningful to networks is that it raises the visibility of their network, which means people are more likely to watch it, and when they do watch it it generates ratings. In the end, that is all that matters. At least, as far as the networks are concerned. I agree that Stargate up to this point (not entirely, but most of the time) has been escapist entertainment, and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I can name quite a few escapist shows I have enjoyed through the years (Star Trek TNG, for one). So if it is escapist entertainment, why such a fuss over something as superficial as the stargate spinning? I have seen many comments on this site (I would say more than half) that attack the creators of the Stargate franchise ruthlessly, and yet it can be assumed those same complainers are watching every week. I understand that if you don’t like the direction the show is going (say, killing off a character like Carson Beckett, or changing villains like the end of the Goa’uld and the rising of the Ori) that it is important to discuss it. The stargate spinning isn’t a change in direction, but some people use this opportunity to raise cain.
    By your login it is clear that you liked Atlantis (that, or you have a sarcastic wit). I loved Atlantis as well (SG-1 too, but the Wraith were an interesting villain to me). Atlantis didn’t get cancelled because the creators were done with it, it was cancelled because SciFi (SyFy, whatever) cancelled it, and the creators, cast, and crew had no control over it (they never do). Does that make the network stupid . . . well . . . yeah, but the cancellation of Atlantis is only the latest in a long line of stupid network cancellations (Crusade, Space: Above and Beyond, Classic Star Trek, Dark Angel, Angel, Farscape, Jericho, etc. We could fill a book with the names of shows networks cancelled before their time, including the original BSG). The problem is, networks view everything in terms of money, and happy fans don’t make money, only ratings do, and if you don’t have a Nielson box (like well over 99% of us) then your viewing doesn’t count.
    The system truly sucks.
    But, again, I welcome your opinion, and I appreciate that you didn’t become insulting, like a different poster did. We all have differences of opinion, we all view things differently, and we have to keep that in mind. That being said, I can’t ignore a show in a beloved franchise like stargate site-unseen. I have to watch it, at least 6 episodes or so, to form an informed opinion. I can’t honestly say I acted responsibly to the franchise of to my own interests if I don’t.
    Either way, great post.

  30. dekion
    July 9, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    @ Sylvia
    I would agree that channeling their creative energy into making SGA better would have been a great idea, but SciFi cancelled Atlantis (beyond the control of the shows creators), so that stopped being an option. We either get 5 years of Atlantis (which is a VERY good run) and a movie, and a new series (Universe), or we get 5 years of Atlantis and that’s it. I will take the bonus movie and series any day. The movie will hopefully be good (the SG-1 movies were), and the series has every chance of being good (they made two series before, SG-1 and Atlantis, and if they weren’t both good we wouldn’t be here). I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

  31. Atlantis Rocks
    Atlantis Rocks
    July 9, 2009 at 11:24 am |


    Thanks its nice to have a dialog that doesn’t get insulting, unfortunately all to often at the mo on both sides it does, it has begun to feel like you almost have to justify why you like this show or that or even why you have an opinion, I think that’s what gets to me more than anything. Also I have no or little knowledge of Nielson rating system, just what I have seen on forums, as I’m in the UK but it does seem an unfair system. An sadly you are right about a lot of shows that just stopped, what I find VERY frustrating is that non US ratings an popularly aren’t taken into account, I mean what if something is hugely popular in another country, why are they so blinked an focused on US ratings, yes they are important but aren’t all the ratings, surely this gives a clear full overall picture of something. As other network still buy these show an they still have advertisers to please ect.. so they don’t want unpopular shows. IMHO if global ratings, demographic etc. were taken into account it would shine a different light on things. I have been told that the ratings in the US were ok an getting better, an the show did recently win more awards, so I guess none of this just makes any sense to me, but that’s another issue I guess. But you do make a few valid points your self an I can see where your coming from. But I have to be honest I can judge SGU sight unseen as it were, because based on the premise, character info/ trailers etc.. I have enough info to say not for me, I have had the debate before about watching trailers to entice you into seeing something so I’m not gonna bore you with that “ ha ha” but for me the marketing come PR is a big failure and the whole axing of SGA factors in as well. Nice chatting to you.

    @US06154 Jon Pertwee best Doc EVER! though Tom Baker was good, sadly I can just I mean JUST remember David Toughton an Fraser Hines as the companion “yes I’m that old ” ha ha”

    If you like Torchwoods its on at the mo, the new mini series started on BBC1 Mon end this Fri an its AWESOME, if you get a chance watch, talk about Sheppard womping its Cpt Jack Whomping time, story is great really gripping ” haha” IMHO best Torchwood todate. Long Live Doc Who & Torchwood an Great Great sci fi for one an all.

    Live long & prosper

  32. dekion
    July 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    @Atlantis Rocks
    I agree regarding the ratings and how they don’t take into account anyplace but the US. Let me add to that two more issues with the ratings. The majority of people with Nielson boxes live in large metropolitan areas, such as Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, etc. Secondly, they are usually families (which would have a different viewing habit that a single person, or two room-mates. Lastly, it does not take into account viewers online (which would single handedly save several shows such as Dollhouse, Heroes, Terminator, etc.). The system is simply behind.
    When it comes to your non interest in watching, to each their own. I totally get where you are coming from. I have to admit, I am going on the assumption that Universe will end up similar to the previous shows in tone in the end, primarily because the writers and executive producers are the same, and writers generally write similar themes in their work. That being said, I want them to have the chance to make Universe interesting and fun (like the other shows), but I would like some hard hitting issues tackled (like SG-1 did with religious tolerance with the Ori). I have seen less parallels with BSG and SGU as I have with SGU and Star Trek, since there is an emphasis on no clear villain. That sounds like there will be little or no arc (while SG-1 and Atlantis had gradual arcs). I hope that isn’t the case.
    Either way, your comments on Dr. Who. I have to admit, I have never gotten into Dr. Who, but mostly because I have not had the opportunity. I hear the new one is pretty good, but I would like to see more of it before I can judge. Is it available online (such as hulu, a free and legal site)?

  33. Atlantis Rocks
    Atlantis Rocks
    July 9, 2009 at 1:20 pm |


    Thanks for the info, re ratings, as far as Dr Who, I’m old school gal ” ha ha” only really liked it when David Tenant took over and dont rate the new one at all an he hasnt even taken over yet, so I think my Dr Who revival days are during to a close ” ha ha”. Sorry I dont know what hulu is and I’m a techno fob, have NO idea how to download and all that sort of stuff sorry, never watched a TV show on line cant see why I would want to an as I said I dont know how to, I just use a computor for work in a office, forums are new to me as is using the internet more, sitting at a desk watching a show or in the comfy armchair sorry the armchair wins ” ha ha. But if you do get a chance some of the old Dr Whos they ARE CLASSICs an brill, like I said David Tennant is excellant, even though I dont like Russell T Davies in general he has done some good eps an Torchwood is good. Sorry couldnt be of help further intenet wise.

  34. dekion
    July 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    @Atlantis Rocks
    I will see what I can dig up concerning Dr. Who. I have a friend who is a big british TV fan (my british TB exposure is limited to The Prisoner, mostly){awesome show, by the way}. I’ll see if he can point me in the right direction.
    Hulu is a website that shows TV shows for free (www.hulu.com), and since I don’t have cable, I have little choice but to a) watch online, b) but the DVDs (which I usually want to see if I like it first). Thus, you see my dilemma. Thanks for the info.

  35. AscendedTauri
    July 10, 2009 at 12:06 am |

    Listen.. this is going to be freaking EPIC. I have 10 Stargate fans already lined up and planning the premiere party in October. Bring. it. on!!

  36. dekion
    July 10, 2009 at 9:56 am |

    Premiere party, good idea. I remember having one for Babylon 5: In the Beginning years ago. It went well. I may try that as well.

  37. dulynoted
    July 11, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    Ok…yet another Stargate storyline is about to take place.
    Don’t get me wrong…I have absolutely loved Stargate since James Spader first step through the gate. (He was and still is my favorite Daniel.) I have SG-1 and Atlantis series on DVD. And of course I do not proclaim to know more than the writers or producers of the Stargate series, but I honestly do not see this newest series bringing anything to even the most die hard of Stargate fans. And anyone who knows me will tell you – I am a die hard Stargate fan! The story line just seems so desperate. It seems that the writers/producers are willing to try any story line and throw the name Stargate on it.

    I guess time will tell if it’s a success or not. But after I watched this preview of SGU
    I did not get any sense of enthusiasm nor feel that I needed or even wanted to watch more.
    I remeber watching the first Atlantis with apprehension and I do admit some narrow-mindedness thinking it was not going to be as good as SG-1. But after the first two shows I could not wait for the next one…and the next one after that and so on. It was a fantastic combination of characters, storyline and directing. And even after some favorites were “killed off” the series still held its own.

    Maybe I am suffering a type of loss for Atlantis and even SG-1. Now that they are only in re-run or on DVD and I can see them whenever I want, but there will be no new tv shows. And the movie …well, even when that is over I will still crave more of Atlantis.

    Time will tell I guess. But again I just did not get that thrill of anticipation one should have when awaiting a new show based on something I have always liked. Maybe it will not be hopeless after all…I mean there is always a possibility of a “time warp or some other way that the Atlantis characters can meet up with the new crew of SGU.
    Those whimsical Ancients are capable of doing anything you know. :)=

  38. dulynoted
    July 11, 2009 at 8:27 pm |

    Sylvia.. I think you said it the best. I think there are quite a few who are “angry” at how SA series ended. Personally I am still upset that it was cancelled at all and I think it could have gone on for two more seasons.

    And although there is a movie coming up it hopefully it will answer some questions many of us have.
    We know what happened to Daniel, Samantha and Tilc on SG-1 as they were integrated into Atlantis a few times. But I want to know if Sheppard ever gets back together with Laren. I cannot help but think that they are planning on getting these two together…maybe not in a romantic way but as a team.

    I hope the new show does well, but I really do not see it doing so. Will just have to see how right or wrong we are.

  39. Jazz
    July 16, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    Well I dont get warm with seeing the lights working on SGU Stagate yet.And it was just a second maby less then that to actualy see it good. Its way to dark,but the series will be darkertoo.I never liked it when things are to dark Jeeze my eyes LOL give me a light.I cant get this sqee feeling yet sorry no matter how many times I see it. It also hurts me that they whiping out SGA and SG-1 and do a lot more for this SGU.Ofcourse they will say were nuts by saying that,but its true. Look what they done on the end on boths series.Because they knew SGU would be their new babie and they have big plans for it and SGA had to go for it. SGA was good for another 2 seasons,but this SGU was in their heads already so.Orfcourse we will see some characters back from both series SG-1 and SGA.Well if they want ofcourse and can. Life goes on and they move on too they have too since they axed the show.Some with young children need to feed them and put them to school so yeah they have to move on. Well we have to wait and see how it goes in the fall with the first long episode of SGU but what comes afther this one is more importent how it will look like or go.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.