85 Responses

  1. Craig MacD.
    Craig MacD.
    October 6, 2010 at 7:38 pm |

    Very disappointing. I live in Canada so I have to wait until Friday to see the episode, but I think Syfy should move SGU back to Fridays (and Caprica) if it wants both shows to survive. They really can’t handle the Tuesday night competition.

  2. darkthunder
    October 6, 2010 at 7:47 pm |

    I have a feeling SGU season 2 will be it’s final season. Unless they completely revamp the way they write episodes and move it to another day/time (Fridays for example).

    Past couple of episodes have firmly estabilished my belief that SGU will henceforth be known as “Battlegate Voyager”. Those familar with the 3 aforementioned shows (BSG, Stargate, ST: Voyager), will understand why I view SGU like this.

  3. smart
    October 6, 2010 at 7:58 pm |

    Based on Canada’s succesful ratings, it seems that SGU would do better in its original Friday night time slots as opposed to this new arrangement. It seems cruicial that this change be reversed in order to ensure SGU’s continuance beyond its current season.

  4. Rob24
    October 6, 2010 at 8:04 pm |

    I’m shocked CAP and SGU had very good episodes I managed to catch them live and I wasn’t dissapointed, I wanna give a shout-out to peeps in canada keep tuning in we have an allied assault.

  5. zainea13
    October 6, 2010 at 8:10 pm |

    remember folks it’s only the few thousand people that have their viewing stats recorded. Also, no matter how good the episode that just aired is, it is a reflection of how well the previous episode did. The premier wasn’t fabulous, that is reflected in EP 2 ratings. Ep 2 was fabulous, so expect a jump in Ep 3 ratings

  6. barni1027
    October 6, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

    I’ve watched every episode of every show, and as much as I’ve loved the previous incarnations, SGU is such a step up. While the humor was great on the previous versions, everything was so cookie cutter, from the music to the effects to the way it was shot. The performances got me through a lot of cheeseball stories. I feel like, now, it’s become more of a grown up show. Yes, it has taken some things from Battlestar, but only the good. The sexuality isn’t as heavy, the morality tales aren’t as preachy. Politics is avoided (other than that of the personal variety). It has also kept much of the good from the original series, the sense of exploration of the vast unwelcoming universe.

    It is unfortunate that they moved it from Friday night, I just hope the DVR viewership stays high.

  7. barni1027
    October 6, 2010 at 8:16 pm |

    By they way, I for one am grateful for the desert scene. I was getting tire of every planet in they universe looking like Vancouver.

  8. Sylvia
    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 pm |

    Perhaps they will have time to wrap up the story by the end of Season 2. Most shows don’t get that.

  9. US06154
    October 6, 2010 at 8:32 pm |

    LOL!, way to shift the focus over with the “But enough about me, Have you heard how badly Caprica is Doing?” All this talk about Re-vamping, re-thinking, re-designing SGU.. How about Re-turning back to Atlantis, where They had obviously better ratings, and kept the Fandom together? Willing to bet good money that if the same effort is put forth, The fans will come back in droves, possibly even approaching the now Purely Mythical 1.6Mil + 1.6mil viewers.

  10. Overmind One
    Overmind One
    October 6, 2010 at 8:48 pm |

    Well, for the first time ever, I actually posted a decent review for an episode of SGU at “that other site”. I was fair and I actually liked it! But I also knew that the ratings would only uptick a bit, or follow the established pattern of the downward trend from season 1.0 and 1.5

    Its obvious that TPTB have made some changes which improved this episode enough to keep me engaged in the story. It was dark, gritty and the special effects were great. But the trampling of the canon, the BSG-like “manifestations” of Rush’s wife and Franklin, the mystical babblings of TJ and others…its too BSG. Baltar/Caprica 6 with a twist. And of course, there is the baggage of season 1 that this show is carrying, which is not a good thing.

    But MANY of us fans saw this coming and can see whats coming. I just hope that TPTB are learning something about pissing off the fandom that elevated them to positions of power over the past 15 years. Forget about the cancellation of Atlantis, lets just concentrate on the “loooooong haul” rant, the “V will be another letter in the alphabet” rant, and the lies tossed about regarding “those angry Atlantis fans”. Its not just Atlantis fans, its SG-1 fans who became Atlantis fans. Is anyone getting it? SG-1 and SGA are Stargate shows. SGU is named Stargate but is an entirely different show in a different genre. It didnt help to imply that TPTB wanted to be so different from the other shows, yet had cameos from those shows and are planning more from Atlantis. This WILL NOT DRAW OLD FANS BACK. Concentrate on getting new fans.

    But why am I wasting keystrokes? Nobody is listening who can do anything about this so we have to watch it run its course. Unfortunately for SGU that course is a one way ticket to Cancellation Station.

    It could have been so much more.

  11. GaussHog
    October 6, 2010 at 8:51 pm |

    This pisses me off so much! This proves that the ratings are innacurate. I mean come on. There were so many tweets related to SGU, so much media coverage. COME ON! If this show gets cancelled a part of my soul will be destroyed. I’ve never felt this way about a TV show before. I just really really don’t want it to go away. GOD.

  12. downster
    October 6, 2010 at 8:54 pm |

    As the old selling addage goes “Location, Location, Location.” Tuesday night is not a good night for this network during the fall. If Sci-Fi (I just can’t bring myself to type the other name) wants these shows to get viewers, it should go back to a working formula that happened in Season 8 of SG1. Can anyone say “Sci-Fi Fridays”. SGU @ 8/7CT followed by Sanctuary @ 9/8CT followed by Caprica @ 10/9CT. Why this network is the home of WWE Smackdown I’ll never understand.

  13. craig007
    October 6, 2010 at 9:11 pm |

    Wish it was on Fridays night again… i watch both SGU and Caprica that night. drove from work to home. watch it live doing my part.

  14. psw
    October 6, 2010 at 9:16 pm |

    The worst ratings of the entire Stargate franchise! All SG1 and SGA episodes had more viewers.

  15. Imperious
    October 6, 2010 at 9:16 pm |

    As usual it is the people that get paid the most money to perform that end up pulling the whole thing apart with bad decisions.
    Those that run the marketing department at syfy channel should swallow their pride, admit they have stuffed up big time, and put the show back to a time slot that it can compete on.
    SGU is a good show, far better than most of the garbage that does get to run more seasons, and needs a better chance to survive than what it is currently being given.

  16. zack
    October 6, 2010 at 9:28 pm |

    The 2 episodes so far this season have been just excellent. I liked the first season, but this,so far, in my opinion, is a huge step up in several ways.

  17. Crayg
    October 6, 2010 at 9:33 pm |

    You mean their strategy of giving the viewers what they don’t want isn’t paying off?

  18. Fort
    October 6, 2010 at 9:47 pm |

    SGU was the first Stargate show I watched and it was because of Hulu. I saw the movie in 94 and thought it was great, but SG-1 was just to cheesy for me. I have since gone and watched all of SG-1 and Atlantis on Hulu and Netflix, but I still like SGU the best. I really enjoyed both BSG and Voyager, so if the show harkens back to two shows that are no longer on, then I’m alright with that. They need to figure in Hulu viewers and they also need a better system for determining live viewer ship.

  19. Fort
    October 6, 2010 at 9:50 pm |

    and tuesday is fine with me, I just DVR whatever else is on. Plus, I was never home on friday nights anyway.

  20. Mitchell82
    October 6, 2010 at 10:25 pm |

    Sadly I knew this would be the case. Ratings are so innacurate because only a handful of people actually count. I hate to say it but if this continues this could be the last season.

  21. voniak289
    October 6, 2010 at 10:30 pm |

    I live in Canada and am happy to know that the ratings increased and i think that the only reason syfy has low ratings is because of the Tuesday night…everybody seems to know that so why the hell wont syfy move it already??

  22. ppatoc
    October 6, 2010 at 10:44 pm |

    If american audience dislike so much SGU, please give the show only for the rest of the world.
    It will survive easily…

  23. Sylvia
    October 6, 2010 at 11:04 pm |

    They have only shown 2 episodes on Tuesdays, they are not going to move it again that quickly. People would really not be able to find it even if they wanted to.

    And what day would they move it to? The rest of the week is pretty booked.

  24. dtguitar
    October 6, 2010 at 11:22 pm |

    Part of the problem, at least here in Southern California is that many of us with HDTVs refuse to watch shows in Standard Def and SGU airs at 8pm on SyFy HD.. this puts it against the highest rated show, NCIS, which I am a huge fan of. Why they would put SGU against this show is incredible to me… SyFy HD needs to adjust their schedule so that it’s in sync with their SD channel OR move it back to Friday which was PERFECT!

  25. Browncoat1984
    October 6, 2010 at 11:28 pm |

    Folks, let me remind everyone that ratings is by far not the only indicator of whether a show will get renewed or not. The renewal process of a TV series is very complicated today and also remember that this is only episode two of a 20 episode season that will stretch until the end of May. I would like to point everyone to a great article over at Airlock Alpha http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/7863/scifriday-dont-panic-over-ratings.html that talks about this very thing – taking a look at ratings across the board, a lot of shows have seen a drop (a lot of SF shows.

  26. Sylvia
    October 6, 2010 at 11:37 pm |

    When you have two of your highest cost shows getting the lowest ratings on your network, and you have other, newer shows in development, why oh why would you keep them? You need to either lower the cost to you or they are gone. Simple economics.

  27. Emily
    October 6, 2010 at 11:39 pm |

    Its official: The date doesn’t make a huge difference. If you pick a slow day you’ll have less competition. If you pick a popular day, you’ll have hard competition. Moving it back to Fridays won’t do any good and will only lose viewers through the flip flops of days.

  28. Kaylee
    October 6, 2010 at 11:41 pm |

    I don’t have much else to add to this; I just wanted to say that I too think SGU would have done much better so far if it had been left in the Friday timeslot. I know Friday is the “typical sci-fi” day, in the mind of American media, and SGU’s move represents an attempt to gain some new audience base, but if you’ve got a good thing going why stop?

  29. TheRaggedyWriterInThePandorica
    October 6, 2010 at 11:58 pm |

    here’s a solution that I think will work in favor of all three of Syfy’s hit Fall show’s:

    switch SGU/Caprica/Sanctuary with GhostHunters and air them back to back on Wednesday nights! I can’t think of any other hit shows that air on wednesday nights on other networks can you? If true, it would be a VERY good move on Syfy’s part!

  30. TheRaggedyWriterInThePandorica
    October 7, 2010 at 12:00 am |

    oh, and put Ghost Hunters on either Tuesday or Friday nights and ditch all the stupid wrestling shows… PERMANENTLY! (or put the wrestling shows on a lo-ratings night)

  31. sgfan
    October 7, 2010 at 12:33 am |

    It’s a pity because these first two episodes were both very good. ScyFy has not done a good job promoting the move to Tuesday. Hopefully the ratings will go up if it’s consistently good. When do they make the renewal decision around episode 10? The decision will be made long before the 20th episode.

  32. Neo T.O
    Neo T.O
    October 7, 2010 at 1:40 am |

    What about those of us who don’t get Space channel (Canada) or Sci-Fi channel. I guess our viewership is not counted? Do the ratings count those who watch the show from the web?

  33. SuperG
    October 7, 2010 at 1:53 am |

    Well what I think. Like playin games, most people just want to escape reality. In my case, I’am heavy interrested in scifi, want more focus on the scifi adventure part. Bit drama and charbuilding and conflict can enrich it a lot. But container ship load of it doesn’t work well. I don’t want excesive reminded how in realworld there are people who are very conflicting with each other. Most people have to deal with such people on work or family.
    Some people like that but are soap watchers and of that there is a lot off shows for.

    Eample I plow trough the Drama conflict and char crap and fast forward to the scifi scenes.
    Some times the scifipart is very rare. Filler eps are filled with drama conflict and charbuiling.

    My sister find this episode weird. And my big brother didn’t even watched it out. Sg1 and Atlantis make more sense and isn’t so boring to him.

    My opinion there are a lot of drama conflics soap stuf out there, the people who like that have so much to chooce from the competition is to high. Most of them dislike Scifi genre. So I think the overlap might be there but can’t be attracted by to much competition.

    The few who scream in forum that SGU is so great and quality. Oh sure good acting great as aiming at a small nice market who likes drama with scifi. But Scifi bussness model is about reachin a large audience for get advertisement to the people.

    So the out come is they can’t attrack the masses of soapies because there is to much competition. And with there overdose Drama conflict and charbuilding they have alienate true scifi fans with this stuff already after the first few eps. The last eps of season brings the aktion and stargate feel back. But the Drama conflic and charbuild overdose, did scare lot of people already away, dislike it as so something not stargate.
    Well if only the cliffhangers bring back the stargate scifi feel it just a bad show to the old stargate crowed.

    And it’s more like Stargate voyager? I wish it was. Startrek is a more positive happy dramaless show. So wenn I think of SGU I totaly don’t think of Voyager that so way different.

  34. Pioneering
    October 7, 2010 at 3:38 am |

    Based on the numbers, it seems to me that the hardcore Stargate fans are watching SGU on Tuesday nights but the less dedicated fans watch something else on Tuesdays. This only goes to show that TPTB would be wise to cater to the hardcore fans. That is what we hardcore fans have been telling them all along. But they just don’t want to listen as they have their own agenda. I recommend that the producers and the network focus on what the fans want. I further recommend returning all the Science Fiction shows (SGU, Caprica, Sanctuary, and Warehouse 13), back to Friday nights. Then get busy making an SG1 and SGA movies.

  35. katikatnik
    October 7, 2010 at 4:20 am |

    “But the premiere — “Intervention” — did quite well up in Canada last Friday”

    So? And it did abysmally in the UK, only 237k people watched it.

    No sugar coating, the show’s clearly flopping and excuses of the “bigger competition” and “people didn’t know it was on” won’t help. The show was doing badly on Frid. in its 2nd half, it’s doing badly now too. It’s no fluke, it’s a downward trend. The general public just doesn’t like what it is seeing.

  36. Billz
    October 7, 2010 at 5:41 am |


  37. gary.j.leadbeater
    October 7, 2010 at 9:15 am |

    Based on the fact that the first 2 episodes were really good episodes (infact probabily the best episodes so far) syfy has made a major mistake of moving to tuesdays they should move back to fridays with sanctuary on at 8/7 stargate on at 9/8 and caprica on at 10/9 and in regards to katikatnik’s comment about the viewership numbers in the uk yeh they are bad but thats because alot more people have had the chance to watch through other means as in online 10 mins after its aired in the us a week before the uk and the longer gap between the us and uk means more people watch it online to get there fix of stargate i live in the uk and if its made available to watch before it airs in my country why should i wait its not like they take our ratings into consideration just the americans are what syfy looks at look at flashforward it did well in the uk but dismal in the us it got cancelled

  38. Personbot
    October 7, 2010 at 9:20 am |

    I’ve been a long time reader of this site but only signed up to it and made occasional comments around the time SGA got cancelled.
    I gave SGU a chance, but could only force myself to watch as far as part 3 of the pilot. I’ve been following the story here ever since on gateworld. Any time I’ve attempted to watch SGU since (meaning downloading the episode) I haven’t been able to get past the “previously on SGU” part before closing and deleting the file.
    Now here’s the thing, I live in Australia and I could have told all the Americans when and where season 2 was starting. If someone who doesn’t even live in a country knows when the show is on in that country but the show still loses one hundred thousand viewers in one week, can we really blame the change in nights? Especially considering this drop in ratings is only steadily continuing on from the previous season.
    Clearly one hundred thousand of the people who watched last week chose not to tune out this week. If next week drops below one million are people still going to blame the move the Tuesdays?
    To be perfectly honest it seems to me like they moved the show so they would have an excuse for the continually dropping in ratings.

  39. gary.j.leadbeater
    October 7, 2010 at 9:23 am |

    by the way i dont recieve sky 1 or any sky channel for that matter i watch all my shows online from stargate to smallville i wont pay the service as the pricing is ridiculous

  40. lonix
    October 7, 2010 at 9:30 am |

    I thought episode two was far better then episode one. Felt like it had more of a StarGate touch, not enough in my book but far better. The fact that they had to uncover after finding the gate. This felt like real style StarGate but just not using the science to get the gate working. I am hoping we see some real stuff but from what I see in the preview texts for the next episode. I really am hoping.

  41. Overmind One
    Overmind One
    October 7, 2010 at 9:49 am |

    @ppatoc – “If american audience dislike so much SGU, please give the show only for the rest of the world. It will survive easily…”

    No, it wont. It costs too much to make and the only markets which can show a return in advertising and purchase of DVDs, products, etc are American. The Industry awards worth having are awarded by Americans.

    @ ALL those who keep saying the reason for the bad ratings is the move to Tuesdays:

    Warehouse 13 pulled in over 2 million viewers on Tuesday only two weeks ago, so the viewers are available. MILLIONS of viewers tune in on Tuesday nights, but they are just choosing to watch more entertaining shows.

    SGU cannot be moved back to Friday, its not going to happen and thinking it will is a bit crazy IMO. Syfy signed a multi-year contract with Friday Night Wrestling and the 9:00pm Friday slot is UNAVAILABLE. Sanctuary is doing well because its a good show, and it could be on Yuesday, Wednesday or even Sunday at 11:00pm and people would still watch it.

    We are the fans, we grew the Stargate franchise with SG-1 and SGA and I think that hindsight will be 20/20 with regard to the fact that nobody asked for a new show. They could have made changes to the old one. And then to add insult to injury, TPTB insulted (and continue to) the fans of SG-1 and SGA and have yet to apologize. When this show is canceled, I hope that we can at least get a simply apology like:

    “I regret the things I said about our loyal fanbase previously. I appreciate their loyalty over the past 15 years, and I can admit I made a mistake.”

    Some of the things said and done cant ever be apologized for.

  42. psw
    October 7, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    I found a review of someone, who watched “Intervention” without prior knowledge of the Stargate franchise.


    He was completely confused and had no idea, what was going on. I think because of this, SGU won’t get new viewers. They can’t follow the plot without watching older episodes.

  43. Greenfire32
    October 7, 2010 at 11:27 am |

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

    “Could this possibly be the result of the much-unwanted “BSG-esque style” of SGU, “Semi-shaky cam” camera angles, ridiculously long hiatus located at just the right fan-killing time (middle of a season? really?), and not to mention those who are still sore of the treatment of SGA’s final moments by TPTB? Yes. Yes I think it could be.

    Combine this with the empty promises of two movies that we KNOW aren’t going to be made (Despite Brad’s “Never say never” attitude. They sold the props for god’s sake!) and I can completely understand why SGU is doing the way it is.

    I’m a huge fan of SG-1, SGA, and SGU, but SGU is in serious trouble. You can blame MGM’s financial problem all you want, but this whole fiasco is really just a mistreatment of the fans by the plutocracy of TPTB.”

    I’d also like to add that Sci fi (THAT stands for Science Fiction) did virtually NO advertising on SGU’s new time slot. Yeah there was the occasional “Check out SGU at it’s new time!” TV spot, but those were far and few.

    It seems as though they just don’t care anymore.

    I wish I could take the Stargate’s wormhole through a solar flare and go back and fix all this.

  44. kenny
    October 7, 2010 at 11:41 am |

    Lackluster episode. Hoe-hum. You spend all this money for what? Blahzay acting and story. I don’t what day this show would air, it would not change anything. This show is not up to par as far as Stargate goes. But I fully expect BW to talk SciFy into another season. Well, not my money.

  45. gary.j.leadbeater
    October 7, 2010 at 11:50 am |


    yeh he might be confused but any1 in there right mind would go back and watch the first season its like watching the second part of a 2 parter of startrek voyager if u dont see the first part how the hell are you going to know wots going on you need all the information to understand it.

    also the previously bit at the beginning of each episode gives plenty of information about whats being happening, he just doesn’t understand it because its not something he wants to watch as he said he didn’t watch sg-1 or atlantis nor the first season of universe if he took the time to watch the first season when it aired he wouldn’t be so confused its not that hard to understand wots happening in the show in my opinion this show is a massive step up from sg-1 and atlantis although i love both of them stargate needed to go in a new direction it was becoming stale and universe has given the franchise a well needed refreshment the darker tone is perfect the character moments are wonderful the more adult feel to the show is what sets it apart from the previous shows. if universe was more like sg-1 or atlantis it would’ve been canceled after its first season i for 1 didnt want to see it like either of those shows, stargate has finally grown up and it needed to do that in my opinion.

  46. kenny
    October 7, 2010 at 11:56 am |

    Come on. Face it folks. It’s not Tuesday night, it’s the SHOW and its following. Just not there.

    They gave the show tooo long of a break between seasons. I could not even remember by the season 2 premier how the last episode ended. Had it not been for my DVR set to “search and record SGU” from last season, I would not have known of its premier day.

    SG1 and Atlantis would do fine on Tuesday nights. Bring back Atlantis. Maybe now that the “Great Experiment” is over, and with the proper writing Atlantis could go for another 2 seasons.

  47. Tanith
    October 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm |

    @kenny Not going to happen since the Atlantis set is gone and some of the actors have moved onto other projects.

  48. kenny
    October 7, 2010 at 12:08 pm |

    Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct :(

  49. kenny
    October 7, 2010 at 12:16 pm |

    Oh and let’s not forget! The year is 2025 and the Producers have a ‘Plan Z’ to get those Stargate movies made :)

  50. psw
    October 7, 2010 at 12:17 pm |

    @ gary.j.leadbeater

    My point was, that SGU isn’t a series, you can just start watching at a random episode in season 2. It is very hard to follow the plot without seeing previous episodes. Most people who stumble over a season 2 episode of SGU while zapping through the channels, won’t look up season 1. They will see SGU, be completely confused and decide to watch something else. Series with a lot of stand alone episodes don’t have the problem. SGU’s problem is shared by a lot of very serialized series.

  51. SuperG
    October 7, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    That a good point. Also wen you get to much to bad eps you got sick of it and leave to.
    Did not like the ep but it has a small cliffhanger the object? They flyin to.
    I like the scifi aspect dislike the excesive charbuilding drama and conflict focus of the series.

  52. ScoobyDoo
    October 7, 2010 at 12:37 pm |

    I think the show is done. It was renewed on such higher numbers, and it’s demos are not impressive at all. I think people blaming the system is over the top. This is the same system that rated W13 with over 2.5 Million viewers, exactly a week before SGU aired.

    Sadly, this will be a very bad impact on the Stargate franchise if SGU does get cancelled. But Atlantis was hitting almost 1.7 Million viewers by it’s final season half.

  53. charmedstargate
    October 7, 2010 at 1:20 pm |

    Why are some people still blaming the move to Tuesday nights for this weeks ratings drop? Correct me if I’m wrong but this weeks ratings is less than last weeks. The ratings would of increased from last week to this week because more people would of been aware of the move to Tuesday nights. I live in Australia and even I knew it had been moved! Why oh why did they have to get rid of Atlantis for this! It rated much better and could of gone on for at least 5 more seasons. There is not one character i like on SGU. SG1 and SGA’s characters were so much more likable i wanted to watch them! I force myself to watch SGU only because its a stargate show but even thats not enough anymore.

  54. HillshireFarm
    October 7, 2010 at 1:25 pm |

    First of all, SGU should go back to its friday slot. I know that i would probably watch it then, however on Tuesdays there are too many other programs that come on. Everybody wants to leave the Friday death slot to avoid competition, well, now everyone is gone from Friday so there is no competition at all. If they move it back, it would stand a better chance of keeping the franchise alive.

    On a different note, why did they have to kill Riely? He was one of my favorite side characters. It’s Grodin all over again. All i can hope is that because it is science fiction they will bring him back somehow. Maybe he’s actually with TJ’s baby now. Who knows?

  55. rac80
    October 7, 2010 at 1:26 pm |

    Well, Can’t say I’m surprised. Even the addition of Mike Dupod (Varro) isn’t enough to convince m to give this show another try. It’s NOT the night or the competetion, it’s the show! Simple as that.

  56. TollanTom36
    October 7, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    Hello All,

    Long-time lurker, long-time fan of SG-1 and SGA, recent fan of BSG and Caprica, and a Eureka and WH13 fan since the beginning.

    For SGU, I think that the ratings are showing the lack of connection with viewers and not the night that the show is on. I am really really trying hard to get into SGU but don’t feel the sense of being tied to the story arc. In SG-1, we had that with the mythology of the Egyptian gods and we had that with SGA and the mythology of Atlantis, because it all happened in Earth’s history. I think that the writers have gotten so far away from earth’s mythology that it is hard to connect to it.

  57. Overmind One
    Overmind One
    October 7, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    @ kenny

    As you may or may not know, several of us on this thread are from “the site which shall not be named”. And of all the episodes aired of SGU, I only really liked two of them. Time, and Aftermath (which I reviewed for the site). Ironic that it turned out to be the lowest rated episode so far, but I actually liked the episode even better than Time, Better lighting overall, and they gave “shaky cam dude” a sedative so he wasnt spazzing out like in season 1. The flow of the episode was much better paced…there was a lot I liked about it. But because of season 1, it makes it hard to get into season 2 because the issue of how this crew ended up on Destiny gets in the way. The HUGE plot holes and the dialing up of the BSG-esque elements with these new :manifestations” of dead people. Not working. Several members of the LA crew are very likable and have hero qualities, but its the Lucian Alliance? Really? Arent we officially in “Voyager mode” now, complete with Varro as Chakotay and Ginn as B’Elanna Torres? Overall, I liked the episode and said so in my review.

    As far BW being able to talk Syfy into a third season…just LOL! Im thinking they are going to cancel the show at the mid-season break and release the remaining 10 episodes on DVD.

  58. retiredat44
    October 7, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    Most of the week there is nothing good on,, sci-fi channel must dump wrestling… why do they hate sci-fi fans.. there is very little on the tv for sci-fi fans,, and when they do show it, it’s the worst crap they can find..

    as far as Tueday nights.. that’s ok, but now Friday has nothing,, Thursday does not have anything on sci-fi I can stomach.. nothing on wed, and nothing on mon,, luckily some othe rnetworks have a couple good shows.. but with show rotation, winter, summer, at this time, there is no much on…

    guess I should be glad we have maybe 3 shows that are really good..

  59. gary.j.leadbeater
    October 7, 2010 at 2:57 pm |


    @ gary.j.leadbeater

    My point was, that SGU isn’t a series, you can just start watching at a random episode in season 2. It is very hard to follow the plot without seeing previous episodes. Most people who stumble over a season 2 episode of SGU while zapping through the channels, won’t look up season 1. They will see SGU, be completely confused and decide to watch something else. Series with a lot of stand alone episodes don’t have the problem. SGU’s problem is shared by a lot of very serialized series.

    you dont make a point, stargate is a series in fairness it does have stand alone episodes but there is a continual story ark to all the episodes that goes through the season the first season been survival the 2nd season been the mission and so on and that was 1 review by 1 person that hadn’t watched the show before and thought it now looked interesting but because he hadn’t seen incursion parts 1/2 he had no idea wot was going on and thats why he found it confusing and didn’t understand and when that happens you dont get a true account of what happened in the episode from the reviewer

  60. ScoobyDoo
    October 7, 2010 at 3:11 pm |

    SGU won’t go back to Friday. Syfy paid like 30 million dollars for the rights for WWE:Smackdown, they got over 2.5 Million viewers. SGU is done. sorry.

  61. Pizerer
    October 7, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    The decision to renew or cancel SG:U will be made after the first ten episodes air. Guessing based on the current numbers is exactly that. I really like SG:U. Also, I’m going to remain hopeful until we get one or two episodes that dip below one million.

    I think one of the reason SG:U got the numbers it did in the UK was due to bad advertising. I remember actively seeking out promotion adds for SG:U on sky1; finding maybe two for all seven times I checked. Anyone else from the UK and Ireland should be able to back me up on this.

  62. nobycane
    October 7, 2010 at 3:29 pm |

    There is only one solution for the ratings at this point in the game – get SGU OFF OF TUESDAY NIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!
    Move it back to Fridays…the mental giants over at SyFy must be so idiotic to think this move was going to work – they are literally killing the series at this point. (Maybe that is their overall plan anyways…) I think SyFy wants more “c” movies in the run and more wrestling shows?

    As much as I am enjoying SGU – it maybe ready to start build that pinebox and get the nails ready…because I think the reaper is drawing near. (re: SGU staying on Tuesday nights)

  63. Gaia
    October 7, 2010 at 4:50 pm |

    Overmind One – I couldn’t agree more…

  64. psw
    October 7, 2010 at 5:50 pm |

    Brad Wright said in January 2009:


    “If we make a good show, you will watch it. If we don’t, you won’t.”

  65. dzd
    October 7, 2010 at 6:51 pm |

    I think this is just a reality SYFY will have to deal with, less and less sci fi fans are getting their content from Live TV. I switched to all web content a year ago because why pay the cable company 180 bucks a month for cable and internet when i can pay 80 for just internet and get the same content. I still see the advitisers, so someone is getting paid. Perhaps Syfy needs to lead the field in this kind of TV, In 5 years tv will all be internet based anyway. sorry comcast/cox/verison/brighthouse.

  66. Middle
    October 7, 2010 at 7:59 pm |

    I do like SGU, and i do understand the rating problem if they dont go up they will cancel it. and i do agree there needs to be some more action (a lot more) to make this show work. but to answer the rating they need to look at the other forms to watch the show like the internet. im in the uk and i dont have syfy so i watch it online a day after its been aired and i dont think im the only one who does this.
    so i think to make this show work the need to release it on the same night worldwide!!!! (friday) and bring more action, more ref to SG1 & ancients tech and please stop all the charater building we know they are from earth and have no way back so discovery some new races and kick some a**

  67. kenny
    October 8, 2010 at 11:37 am |

    Well last nights epi (Instinct) of SGA on Universal HD is what Stargate is really all about. I wish SGU could at least be as good as SGA. It might survive.

  68. arnoldrimmer
    October 8, 2010 at 11:46 am |

    Wathed Aftermath and was bored as ever I bought every SG1 Sesaon and SGA 1-4 but SGU 1 and 2 I will not buy…

  69. arnoldrimmer
    October 8, 2010 at 2:52 pm |

    BTW. We now will have some “Star Trek Voyager Marquee” Members…

    real great I now just wait to a new sexy Crewmenber to safe the raings mabye called Six……

  70. grif
    October 8, 2010 at 4:03 pm |

    mg just bought the farm. chapter 11

  71. Browncoat1984
    October 8, 2010 at 9:15 pm |

    I personally love all three Stargate series (for different reasons). Just like I love all five Trek shows – for different reasons. But reading these comments, one thing is clear. When you have a franchise you will always have people who like/dislike one series over another and in some cases even hate (as in the case of Voyager, Enterprise and for Stargate – Universe) a series. But I get annoyed when I see comments like “no wonder nobody’s watching it, it’s crap!” Just because YOU don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s crap, because many people apparently do like it from other comments here (and on other sites).

    I think the problem is like what dzd commented on above, that more and more people are getting content through alternate means. I watch so many sf shows on now (currently running: Fringe, Stargate Universe, Smallville, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Chuck, Caprica – I also watch a non-SF show, Castle, and Sanctuary is starting up soon!) that I don’t have time to sit through a full hour or two every day to watch a new episode of my favorite shows – why not wait to download it through itunes or buy the DVD/blu ray or watch it via netflix where I can save 20 minutes of my life and cut commercials.

    The hour long episode would be more tolerable, for me, as a viewer, if there were fewer commericals. For instance, I would probably watch more shows as they air 20 years ago when there was 15 minutes rather than 20 minutes of commericals, but now it seems like there’s a commercial break every 5 minutes and half the time they’re just for other SyFy shows. Also, am I the only one who gets annoyed by the fact that SyFy’s volume is so low that I have to crank it up, then when the commercials come on I go deaf? Yeah, that’s also a turn-off.

    Not to mention that a few shows I watch conflict with each other (not too many these days thankfully), and I do have real life issues with some shows, so if I can’t watch a show in HD on my HD screen when it airs I’ll simply download an HD copy or buy it on blu ray or watch it on netflix. I watched the premier of SGU in standard resolution when it aired because I forgot that our SyFy is on East Coast time and it’s on 3 hours earlier and it looked like crap on my 55″ screen. The blu ray’s for season 1 though look gorgeous.

    My point is, Sci-fi fans especially are increasingly joining the “I will watch it when I want to watch it” crowd, especially with shows like SGU where it’s better to save 10 episodes and watch them in a chunk instead of getting a long drawn out viewing experience. I found watching season 1 a much more enjoyable experience watching it over 2 weeks than watching it over a year with a 6 month break in-between.

    I was just thinking the other day how lucky we are with tehcnology when it comes to TV. 20 years ago our only option was to either record it to VHS tape or watch it as it aired, so Nielsen ratings were much more accurate then. Now there’s so many other avenues to get our entertainment and watch our TV that we’re not forced to slot off an hour on a certain night to watch a favorite show. A friend wants to hang out on a night that a show I like is on? No problem, I’ll download it (or watch it via hulu) the next day and cut out commericals, saving 20 minutes of my busy life.

  72. Kosh
    October 8, 2010 at 10:38 pm |

    Still too much of the over the top drama for me and my gf. We get that they want the colonel to be seen as having heavy burdens and issues while still trying to do the right thing and what’s best for everyone etc etc. But we just dont care enough about him (or anyone, really) to feel like we should be having any sort of positive/sympathetic reaction to him smothering the dying soldier (whoever he was). These characters just aren’t the heroes and SG teams we’re used to, they are just characters in a soap opera set in space still. They shouldn’t be trying to pull off any over the top (esp the dark over the top) drama until the characters have earned our trust and love. And even then, dont hit us every single episode with it :/

    We were seriously debating even watching it next week…… until the cliff hanger with the Ancient Stargate Seeder Ship Thing. Now we HAVE to watch it, because it might ACTUALLY be a Sci-Fi episode that gives us something substantial about STARGATE!

    That’s when it became clear to us: the only thing that will keep us around is if the series takes a sudden and dramatic (irony on that word!) turn to being hugely focused on the Ancients. There is just nothing that can be done with the characters we are stuck with at this point, so the Ancients are pretty much the only carrot on a stick left for us now. We are hoping the big “mission” that Destiny is/was on is what triggers the massive change in the show towards a heavy Ancient/Lantean focus.. otherwise, we’re probably done :(

  73. Kosh
    October 8, 2010 at 10:43 pm |

    Oh, and also I just wanted to add that we think the actors themselves are actually a great job at acting what they are given. Feel bad ripping on the characters, but it’s definitely the writing and not the actors and actresses that are hurting the show.

  74. rsharpe
    October 9, 2010 at 1:20 am |

    Since MGM has now filed for bankruptucy, the changes of making the Stargate movies seem less and less likely. Especially now that SGU:90210 is tanking.

  75. Professor Plum
    Professor Plum
    October 9, 2010 at 5:55 am |

    sgu was heavily promoted in the UK on Sky 1 during every break of the reruns of SG1. Seeings as they were running double bills of the show that is a total of 7 slots. Any hardcore fan of the franchise would have been watching those reruns and seen the promotion of sgu. I can only assume that you are not hardcore enough to watch the reruns.

  76. jjs
    October 9, 2010 at 11:18 am |

    I just watched Aftermath last night and wanted to ponder the episode before I posted anything. In general, while I think the show is a little better than last season I still find myself bored with the characters and their constant non-stop drama. I agree with Kosh’s post that the first episode I am excited about seeing is next week’s with the Ancient Seeder Ship because I at least find the backstory of the Ancients and Destiny’s mission compelling.
    What I like about SGU so far this season is mostly the quality of the acting, but unfortunately not the characters themselves. After last night’s show ended I asked myself “what if another character had died, like Young, Rush, Chloe, Eli, etc?” And I realized it would not bother me to lose any of these characters. I really could care less about these characters and that really bothers me as I struggle to like this show. I feel that for every good character moment on the show there is at least three to four tedious and melodramatic moments that then wreck the episode for me.
    Last night for example I thought the plot was interesting until Rush started being…well…Rush. I am so tired of his character, the constant moodiness, the deception, the angst, etc that it wrecks the show for me. If he would have found the bridge and then told people about it I would have jumped for joy at the fact this character did something interesting. But no, we get this one dimensional character and his non-stop, never changing moodiness and distrust and then focus on it for a large part of the episode. Pure and simple, Rush wrecked this episode for me and I wish they would either dramatically change his character or get rid of the character completely.
    I will keep watching and hope that their promises of this season being faster paced are true. But honestly, the only thing keeping me coming back is the hope we’ll learn more about Destiny.
    As for the show’s ratings, I don’t believe it is the Tuesday time slot as much as the fact that people just aren’t interested in the show. It’ll be interesting to see if the ratings improve for next week’s episode which actually looks interesting.
    For those that like SGU, I mean no offense with my post and hope you continue to enjoy the show. I will stick it out for a little while longer and will give this show a chance to win me over. So far this season though, I am not impressed.

  77. Browncoat1984
    October 9, 2010 at 4:01 pm |

    I still find it funny though that people talk about the season like it’s already over…we’re just TWO EPISODES IN folks. And if you’ve read spoilers for future episodes you know that it should be an interesting ride (don’t forget that Woolsy and McKay are going to be on!)

  78. allstargeneral
    October 9, 2010 at 9:57 pm |

    Ridiculous – Wright or whoever has pull with SyFy needs to find a timeslot that doesn’t match SGU with a highly rated show – there’s some shows that can withstand any competition and Dancing and NCIS have the markets cornered that night on reality and drama. That leaves next to nothing for other broadcasts, unless it’s a live major sporting event. This is a niche and the heads at SyFy need to find a better slot for SGU.

  79. brian577
    October 10, 2010 at 1:26 am |

    Isn’t that the same thing people said during the entire 1st season? “It’ll get better”? Furthermore, the single appearance of a couple of characters from the previous series (even if they are really REALLY good) is not going to save SGU, it’s a last ditch attempt (and a pretty pathetic one a that) to attract viewers.

  80. Tanith
    October 10, 2010 at 11:21 am |

    @Browncoat1984 The issue is the ratings its been getting. Its looking less and less likely that SyFy will renew SGU for a 3rd season.

    Check the ratings thread on the forum, even got Briangate78 (Who works for SyFy) that has a better idea understanding of the ratings SyFy are looking for.

  81. Gaeth
    October 10, 2010 at 3:41 pm |

    SGU isn’t anything like BSG & you all know it, & it’s barely anything like Voyager. Anti-fans’ gripes don’t make any difference when it comes to ratings. It’s the casual viewers that bring in the numbers. Let’s not forget that SGA was canceled because of low ratings. Plus it was awful. Not as bad as BSG, but it was still really terrible. I’ll keep my 2 seasons of SGU in all its greatness instead of the 5 seasons of SGA.

  82. eteasley
    October 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    Just another example of SyFy’s ability to read and program according to market. Move the show to Thursday, nothing’s on that night. Sorry folks, you’re insignificant to the Powers that Be at SyFy and the only way to become worth looking at is to pin dollars to your foreheads

  83. Tanith
    October 10, 2010 at 4:40 pm |

    @Gaeth If Atlantis was cancelled due to low ratings then SGU is definitely done.

  84. Coremae
    October 11, 2010 at 8:01 pm |

    What, we foreigners don’t make much ****ing difference in this rating system? I’m in the Bahamas and a lot of us watch Stargate. ****, many of us here only watch Scifi to begin with. So why is it, they’re deciding the future of the show based on a few narrow minded ***holes who may or may not like SGU or science fiction for that matter, watching only glee or whatever the hell else comes on network television (since I don’t ever watch that bull****). Simple solution. Ask us to email you guys or go to a specific website when we’re watching your show, and click on the commercials we remember seeing. Problem solved. ****! Many products you boast about in your commercials we use here, or go and and watch the movies you pronounce. So do the math people. If twenty or thirty in the Bahamas log on, and a few thousand in Canada, and other places in the world. Wouldn’t that be saying something else than Neilson’s bull****!?!

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