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knowles2
knowles2
13 years ago

So the blues are returning.
An attack on Stargate command, I hoping that reveals the project to earth citizens finally.
Twins destiny sounds good.

Skiznot
Skiznot
13 years ago

Such a colossal shame to cancel this show. It seems space exploration science fiction is dead. Seems all the movies coming out this year are aliens coming to us but my favorite science fiction has always been people in a ship exploring what’s out there.

Alan
Alan
13 years ago

All those eps sound amazing and I cannot wait to see them! The details are just further proof of what stories could still be told if SGU were allowed to continue beyond Season 2. In seasons ahead who only knows who or what they’d encounter in the space and planets they go to! I sincerely hope Mr. Brad Wright is successful in his talks with MGM, SyFy or whoever it is that has the power to allow SGU to continue. The people of Destiny deserve to have their story told, their mission completed, and then finally allowed to return to… Read more »

Jim Hutto
13 years ago

. As far as I am concerned SGU will continue with a Season 3. As people have said on this board. SGU is NOT a Syfy show, it is owned, operated and controlled by MGM/UA. Not to mention you have Space and Sky1, not to mention other stations through out the world that show this show.

Chevron Atlantis
Chevron Atlantis
13 years ago

Hutto, maybe you missed JM’s blog this week. Read his quote. “Answer: SGU’s fate on the network has already been decided. They canceled the show.” and “We talked about doing a story that would offer details on the seeding process but, alas, we were canceled not renewed given the opportunity to pursue other interests like not working.”

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/

SGU and Stargate is DEAD!

Chevron Atlantis
Chevron Atlantis
13 years ago

Space hasn’t expressed any interest in the show Jim just to let you know. I’m not sure about Sky though.

Chevron Atlantis
Chevron Atlantis
13 years ago

Also, if you looked on the forum one of the forum members called up the workers and some of the crew are leaving and taking down the sets so there is no productions nothing is happening Stargate is DEAD and will be until a miracle happens.

The Tenth Doctor
The Tenth Doctor
13 years ago

I still can’t get over why their members are so gratuitously gleeful about SGU crashing and burning. Good for SyFy for not just getting rid of the final episodes in one quick burst. The show deserves better than that.

Noldor
Noldor
13 years ago

I think it`s the actors and producers that is the main reason for all stargate is canceled now. Because the world is not just USA and Canada. Here in Europe, there are at least one chanal i EVERY country that airs Stargate series. Here in Norway, it`s four. And two of them airs SG-1, SGA and SGU now days.
It seems like they don`t know there is a world outside america too.

Jauh0
Jauh0
13 years ago

: I have to agree to that, but here in Finland there’s only 1 channel was showing SG last year and it stopped at the end of season 6. :(

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

There’s apparently a lot of people out there who don’t understand how this whole process works. Syfy didn’t ‘cancel’ SGU, it simply didn’t renew it. MGM is free to take it elsewhere but there are no takers and from what I’ve heard, no one even mildly interested. It doesn’t get the ratings necessary to justify the cost of the show anywhere. They have to have a way to make money off of the show and since they can’t actually force people to watch it and people aren’t willing to do so of their own free will, there’s just nowhere for… Read more »

Damek
13 years ago

@Skiznot (February 16 @ 8:18 pm) The dominant global culture is not interested in exploration, and is more interested in threats from afar, because that’s what’s going on at home. There’s nowhere to go (even if foreign immigration laws would let you), and all our fears are of poor people coming to take our jobs. We exist in a global empire in decline, during which time people are most concerned with clinging to their privileges, not with being evaporatively creative and building/finding new ground. Explorers have always been those with little to lose (or prestige to win). We all have… Read more »

Damek
13 years ago

Erg. “Exploratively” not “evaporatively,” and “tons to lose,” not “tons to love.” Although I suppose both typos also work.

bellboy
bellboy
13 years ago

@Chevron Atlantis

“The network cancelled us, thus we’re done for now”.
Forgive me if I’m wrong but I could have SWORN he said ‘for now’…

Scott Watson
13 years ago

I can confirm via a source who works at Bridge Studios that as of the 14th of this month the sets are still standing (unless they have been taken down in the past 3 days, which I find unlikely).

The Space network were also interested in picking up the show (why wouldn’t they be, it’s a hit on their network) but as most people suspected they simply could not afford to do so.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

– Do you have a source for actual ratings information for the second season of SGU on Space? I can’t find anything other than people commenting on it. Commenters seem to feel it was a ‘hit’, but most of the professional articles refer to the ratings as ‘average’ and the like. I only saw the ratings for one episode of SGU on Space posted here once with real numbers and they looked less than impressive. But that was one episode.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

@Darren – I’ve seen several articles that have that same quote while in the articles claiming that the more recent ratings were just ‘average’. And does anyone know what type of viewership major network shows get in Canada? I found some information indicating, if I read it right, that 2.5-3 million viewers is considered big numbers for a show in Canada, which I guess would make 624,000 pretty high for a niche show. Though I still don’t think it qualifies anywhere close to a ‘hit’ show. Maybe for that network it’s a hit, but still not a hit show. And… Read more »

psw
psw
13 years ago

@ Darren I guess 624,000 viewers must be live + 7 or something similar. I read that the premiere got 565,000 viewers. http://www.channelcanada.com/Article3627.html So far I know of these ratings: 1./2. Air, Part 1 and 2 (2.10.2009) 565,000 viewers 3. Air, Part 3 (9.10.09) 557,000 viewers 4. Darkness (16.10.09) 334,000 viewers 5. Light (23.10.09) 389,000 viewers 6. Water (30.10.09) 309,000 viewers 7. Earth (6.11.09) 313,000 viewers 8. Time (13.11.09) 9. Life (20.11.09) 308,000 viewers 10. Justice (4.12.09) 304,000 viewers 11. Space (2.4.2010) 422,000 viewers According to Mallozzi at November 11, 2010: “SGU does very well on Canada’s Space channel averaging… Read more »

psw
psw
13 years ago

And people shouldn’t put their hopes on Sky1 from the UK. SGU’s ratings are abysmal in season 2 on that channel. The season 1 premiere got nearly 900,000 viewers overnight. In season 2 the ratings have fallen below 200,000 viewers. SGU is a flop in the UK, like it is in the USA.

Browncoat1984
Browncoat1984
13 years ago

Too much time has passed with no word from the producers on anything going on. As much as I love Stargate and Stargate Universe I’ve resigned myself to the fact that after these next 10 episodes the only way I’ll be able to get my Stargate fix is through novels, just like it was with Star Trek until JJ Abrams rebooted it. Ugh, sometimes I wish I wasn’t a sci-fi fan, then I wouldn’t have to go through this heartache everytime a show I get interested in is canceled, especially just as its starting to get really interesting. Looks like… Read more »

Overmind One
Overmind One
13 years ago

@ Tanith. I also have a source at bridge Studios and I can also confirm that the SGU sets are still standing, but I also have a source at MGM in Century City which says that MGM has “taken SGU off the books”. The Teamsters Dispatch clerk told me the show is done and will be “wrapping up”. You shouldnt mislead readers. The production list at Teamsters 155 (Vancouver) here: http://teamsters155.org/WebDocuments/rptProdACtiveList.pdf lists an 8-month period of time where the sets will be struck and pieces will be auctioned off. There is no new production compant which has been formed for… Read more »

ipfnd
ipfnd
13 years ago

I just can’t get up for this anymore. Yeah I’ll watch the final episodes and they will no doubt be awesome and build into the show that would probably have made the ratings necessary but just a year late thanks to the writers “character building” exercise. I do appreciate them putting me out of my misery a month early though.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

The posturing here is almost humorous. SGU is not ‘off the books’. It’s still airing and the sets aren’t yet destroyed and unless the people at MGM are monumentally stupid, they would do what other studios do and bill any work that’s done taking down the sets to the show. Why would the studio want to take the hit on those costs? At the same time, that’s not an indication that there’s anything else going on. Make no mistake about it. The show is dead right now. Sure, Wright is trying to find some way for things to go on… Read more »

Lightmaker
Lightmaker
13 years ago

I don’t see the Stargate watchers sitting home watching live, commercials and all.

We are time shifters and they can only guess how many of us there are. I would think they are counting light and the ratings should be higher.

Horcrux
Horcrux
13 years ago

So in other words unless SGU gets a 2 hour movie or miniseries there is no way it will get a season 3. That sucks i will watch live in the hopes ratings gives us a miniseries or movie at least to have closure, i hate when they leave a series in a cliffhanger.

Scott Watson
13 years ago

@Overmind One Though why are the sets still standing? The original contract expired a few weeks ago, its costing money to keep them up at the moment.

Overmind One
Overmind One
13 years ago

@ mythos LOL! You speak with such authority and you have NO real facts whatsoever. I actually do work in the MGM building in Century City, and I have a contact at Bridge. Where are you getting YOUR information? LMAO!

The Atlantis sets were DESTROYED. That is a fact. The Teamsters are the ONLY workforce there can be in those studios, and when it comes time to either do production, ot strike sets or even to store them, Teamsters will know. So, please stop trying to speak as if you know anything real, because obviously, you dont.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

@Overmind One – Again, humorous. “My best friend’s cousin’s former roomate’s sister’s ex-boyfriend told me so it must be so!”. I know these things for 2 reasons. 1) It would be extremely stupid to destroy every piece of the sets. Parts can be re-used for other things. Bigger studios do it all the time. 2) If you actually knew someone whose job it is to take care of such things, like I do, you’d know that there are many reasons why they don’t just destroy everything when a show is over. And I can guarantee that they didn’t just go… Read more »

Overmind One
Overmind One
13 years ago

I dont really concern myself with generalities. Im talking specifics. The Atlantis gateroom, Weir’s office, and most of the interior corridors were DESTROYED, not mothballed and not stored. The other spurious information regarding your subjective judgements as being “stupid” of them, I wont speculate. But however it came about, those sets were destroyed. Other key pieces were auctioned off. The gates, however, remain.

And who mentioned anything about “going crazy on the sets”? I dont purport to know “how its done”. I can only state with certainty that the Atlantis sets were destroyed and not mothballed for later use.

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

I’ve got a CI that told me they are going to destroy not only the sets,but the entire studios and all of the on location structures they were filming at..and they also have sniper teams in place to take down all the actors that were involved..come on people,what is it with the what’s gonna be destroyed,dismantled,stored,or whatever..the show is over,the curtain is down,it sucks,that’s it.. Btw,I myself have seen maybe 2 episodes of SGU live and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one,so yeah..there is definitely considerably larger number of people that follow the show,probably twice more.But they don’t… Read more »

ThomasG
ThomasG
13 years ago

Perfect ending for SGU:
Scene: [Robert Carlyle standing in the gate room, A familiar blue police box from the 50’s slowing materializes in front of him, Rush takes key from pocket unlocks door pauses turns to camera and says:]

“Come on, you must have at least suspected.”

[Closes door of T.A.R.D.I.S. it disappears from gate room, reappears out in space beside Destiny, T.A.R.D.I.S. tows Destiny back to Earth]

[Roll End Credit: The End]

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

– I’m guessing that the same type of conglomeration could probably fund SGU but you would think that there would be word of such interest by now if it were there. While the ratings are obviously not exact, they are the only benchmark available and I’ve still been looking for any actual indication that it was particularly popular anywhere and have come up empty.

– Rush is too sullen to be the doctor.

elguito
elguito
13 years ago

forget syfy and bring it to another network

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

@mythos Not probably,it surely could fund it,but yeah..there would most certainly be word of anything like that by now..and I have heard that in most Europian countries,not only SGU,but Stargate in general hasn’t been popular at all.We tend to think of Europe as the EU with it’s what 400 mil people,but they stil don’t have television networks that would incorporate that whole body of people.They don’t speak the same language and are not the country like the US,not the one nation.Their,separate national tv networks air our shows in syndication.No interest there. So you basically have US&Canada,UK,Australia&New Zeland..that’s it and we… Read more »

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

– I said probably because I’m actually not entirely sure that they could. Based on population and the relatively higher interest in television here compared to most of the rest of the world, I don’t know that there is enough of an english-language market elsewhere for them to support SGU even combined. At the very least, I think the math would end up being surprising. Since language dubbing usually adds a time factor that tends to offset seasons, it’s likely that only english-language markets would count for the current season.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

@Overmind One – You’re talking about the physical construction, not the sets as a whole. Yes, the physical construction would have been taken down. I don’t agree with the word ‘destroyed’ because again, they don’t just go buck wild and start throwing hammers at things. And it’s because of material hazard laws that they don’t ‘destroy’ things. It’s a much more controlled system then that. But the take-down and rebuilding of such sets is routine. It has and does happen even between seasons and even between episodes. Do you really think that they kept all of the construction from every… Read more »

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

Well there are subtitles,they take less time,but yes I agree,for currennt,actually next season only english language countries would be in play,that’s why I named them specifically,but it’s quite obvious that ain’t gonna happen and to tell you the truth I don’t believe that even in the future,significantly close one that is..we can count on any Stargate show to continue as a series. Miniseries,or a movie..direct to whatever..dvd,blue-ray,maybe..just maybe.

axcel1
axcel1
13 years ago

Seriously, why doesn’t MGM do what Dick Wolf did with Law & Order? I wouldn’t mind watching a show called, “Stargate UK”. We would only see 13, 8, maybe, only 6 episodes a year, but, better than nothing.

mythos
mythos
13 years ago

– I would agree. No network is likely going to take a chance on another stargate show after SGU got such poor ratings. It would have been better if it had been cancelled for other reasons.

axcel1
axcel1
13 years ago

Everyone, let’s remember why SGU did so badly in the ratings, the producers didn’t care if SG1 and SGA fans watched SGU and didn’t care, period. They didn’t even try to do anything to change SGU to improve the show. Yes, I know Scify didn’t help by, 1) putting it on Tuesdays and, 2) putting it on during first-run network shows, but, all the more reason for the producers to fix what was broken, but, they didn’t. (Just so you know, I liked SGU, but, everyone has to like it, everyone being Stargate fans.) Just my opinion, I could be… Read more »

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

@mythos Yeah,true,that’s sort of a frustrating irony of it all! @axcel1 I know,right? I understand what you’re saying because I feel much the same way.(I also liked SGU regardless of it’s many plot holes)And not only that they didn’t care,but and I wrote about that more than once,their direct conflict with those fans over the net didn’t help either. And just to be clear,I never supported those rants,from that part of the fandom,but at the end of the day,they are the people who’d essentialy been “writing” stargate PTB’s pay checks for more than a decade,so to get up on a… Read more »

Jauh0
Jauh0
13 years ago

: But we can all agree that SGU was ultimately a failure, rants don’t kill shows.

Jauh0
Jauh0
13 years ago

What I mean is that its downfall was caused by more than one factor.

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

Agreed,on both points.Basically,what I meant to say,that is something I’d never heard of any pruducer who knows what’s good for their business doing.

tb1342
tb1342
13 years ago

Stargate is dead in any form, the backlash from SGA and SGU fans will make any backers weary of trying to take on the project…I liked SGA, minus the blow up of every Arrora class ship they step on (can you say shleprock)..I like SGU minus the slow character development….but we are where we are…watch the final 10 eps and never watch the Syfy channle again is my easy answer….I guess a mind simulating program will gave to be reserved for books

Atlantimus
Atlantimus
13 years ago

It is a shame to see this series die and for me it is difficult to accept. However I comment merely to cite an example of when Europe actually pulled together to keep a certain cop show on the air featuring a Mounty attached the the chicago police dept… That’s right Due South was such a big hit in the early 90’s in Europe that despite its cancellation in the USA many earopeaan channels banded together and kept the show on the air for many years. It’s shame then that clealry SGU didn’t have the same impact because otherwise the… Read more »

eidos
eidos
13 years ago

yay! Just found out that SGU is returning on March 7th! Nothing quite like finding out that one’s favorite show returns on the day before one’s birthday! Best early b-day present ever! Many thanks for the happy news, GateWorld :)

TJ
TJ
13 years ago

Well, for me season 2 had been an improvement, but IMHO there was little worse that could be done. I think SyFy needs to evaluate its method of choosing shows. Caprica, SGU, and the newly adopted Being Human, all have the same fatal flaw: Shallow, and largely mindless plots driven by hedonism. It doesn’t work. If you want to sell a show with sex, put it on Spike. Universe, put a social agenda ahead of good television, and it failed. As did Caprica, and I predict so will Being Human. But this is a wide problem for syfy, Like the… Read more »