73 Responses

  1. JoeTheDragon
    JoeTheDragon
    (24 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:24 pm |

    was head to head with pawn stars

  2. ap0a
    ap0a
    (1 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:48 pm |

    The show is as amazing as ever.
    Nobody is watching because of the cancellation.

  3. JDeus01
    JDeus01
    (11 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:48 pm |

    well it’s not as if another season is no the table anyway

  4. J-Whitt987
    J-Whitt987
    (28 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:52 pm |

    Posting ratings is like kicking a dead horse. Does it really matter anymore with SGU not getting a proper ending?

  5. As the Stargate Spins Counter-Universally | Misty Midwest Mossiness
    (378 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:56 pm |

    […] Update from Gateworld:  Lowest Ratings Yet for SGU […]

  6. StargateDominator
    StargateDominator
    (29 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 9:59 pm |

    Well,Atleast its not on Tuesdays at 9pm anymore,It would be going against ABC’s Series “V”

  7. StargateDominator
    StargateDominator
    (29 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:03 pm |

    Next episode:Hope Trailer !!!Spoiler Alert!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGlVXRtEcGU&feature=feedu

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIK_hAIKRbA&feature=feedu

    Chloe’s body is taken over by the mind of someone the crew believed was dead. Meanwhile, Dr. Volker is striken with an illness that threatens his life.

  8. puddlejumper_1
    puddlejumper_1
    (71 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:12 pm |

    At least i watched! I just recorded my other tv shows so I could watch it later and just watched sgu live intstead of the other way around like I assume most people did. But this is trully sad to see the ratings drop this low, it only makes syfy’s decision to cancel the show right. Sure ratings don’t matter much since the show is canned and a movie or two might be made anyways, but if another network was looking into renewing the series, they’re probably looking away right now. Seriously STARGATE..the leading scifi show to which all scifi shows like to look up too, is failing. This is just sad, I can’t believe MGM would just let syfy throw sgu around on such bad timeslots. And I dont even watch Being Human but its numbers are dropping too, to the point of cancellation

  9. Sylvia
    Sylvia
    (594 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:28 pm |

    Sad ending to the franchise. :(

  10. in3d
    in3d
    (19 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:30 pm |

    Something is just horribly wrong with the way ratings are gathered these days. I believe way more than 814,000 people are still watching the series. The way ratings are logged these days isn’t reliable. I don’t have a Neilsen box … I don’t get home until after Stargate airs and I DVR the show on my Windows Media Center so I can watch it the same evening. It’s not being captured for ratings. So, I’d say, obviously the numbers are wrong. I gave SGU a shot and love it!

  11. Konrad
    Konrad
    (9 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:34 pm |

    All they had to do was air it during the summer and keep away from the absolutely absurd and unnecessarily long breaks. Either SyFy is completely incompetent at every level of decision making with its schedule or they are purposefully killing off shows, there are no other explanations.

  12. peteym5
    peteym5
    (11 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm |

    With all the fans who are now complaining about Syfy canceling, they are not making an effort to save the show by watching the first run broadcast. I hope Syfy honors the show up to the final episode. We are still awaiting an announcement from MGM as to the shows future.

  13. Imperious
    Imperious
    (48 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 11:15 pm |

    Sounds more to me like SyFy channel’s ratings are plunging on the whole.
    SGU’s ratings don’t mean a lot now, so maybe Gateworld should quit posting these irrelevant figures.
    SGU is better than “The Event” and “V”, and likely would have fard much better on a regular network channel.

  14. EsbenWitch
    EsbenWitch
    (12 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 11:34 pm |

    I’m really going to miss this show.

    Really enjoyed the episode but I didn’t watch it live so I feel like a bit of a jerk.

    Is there any word on the movie?

  15. EsbenWitch
    EsbenWitch
    (12 comments)
    March 22, 2011 at 11:42 pm |

    I tend to find the less people know about the Stargate franchise the more they enjoy SGU. The biggest haters for SGU are the hardcore fans of the previous series. Has anyone else noticed this?

  16. Uncle Al
    Uncle Al
    (50 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:00 am |

    It looks like SyFy knew what they were doing when they did not pick SGU up for another season. They might as well wrap this thing up and run the rest of the episodes as a midnight marathon before they loose any more viewers.

  17. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:27 am |

    And look as Being Human’s ratings *gasp* its getting what SGU got last fall! Surprise surprise…this series is next.

    I have a feeling more cancellation announcements are on the way.

  18. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:31 am |

    Oh, and I had a quick LOL at the picture you guys posted of Greer and Camille. I double taked because I thought Camille was pointing a lightsaber at Greer’s chest. Of course, I just got done playing Lego Star Wars III, but her flashlight does sorta look like a lightsaber the way its portrayed in that pic.

  19. Greenfire32
    Greenfire32
    (63 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:35 am |

    No. Sh!t. Sherlock.

    Seriously? Are we REALLY expecting anything else to happen with the ratings? I know there’s not a whole lot to report on, Daren, but come on. We KNOW the ratings are only going to get lower and lower.

    @Uncle AI: The ratings are dropping with each episode because of the cancellation news, not because of the show’s quality. SciFi didn’t call this one at all, but it will appear that way because of the broken numbers provided by the broken ratings system.

  20. peterhignett
    peterhignett
    (7 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:44 am |

    Fringe hit an all time low last week too.

    Looks like the nielson boxes need new homes?

    Two brilliant shows getting obviously the wrong raatings statistics.

  21. Halzman
    Halzman
    (4 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 12:48 am |

    Sad to hear this, but not surprised. I’ve been watching SGU since it first aired (die-hard stargate fan), and although the first season was kinda slow, i kept watching to fulfill my ancient/stargate needs. Second season has been really picking up the pace so it’s more enjoyable from a storyline standpoint.

    The reason however, why I’m not surprised about low rating on ‘Alliances’ is because it was a character development kinda slow episode, which every season of every stargate show has had. It’s a ‘wrong place at the wrong time’ kinda thing.

    I’m almost willing to say that I ‘predict’ S02E15 ‘Seizure’ will bring in high ratings for the exact opposite reasons… well mostly because of mckay ;)

  22. Xyla
    Xyla
    (20 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 1:05 am |

    It’s so cute that some people still think watching live without a Nielson box will do something for the ratings.

  23. grif
    grif
    (131 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 1:11 am |

    waiting for the season 2 dvd set. i dont have cable.

  24. samamd
    samamd
    (1 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:21 am |

    Well i think the rate’ing are low beacuse its monday everyone think you know there are so many tv shows on monday like chuck and being human . i feel syfy is doing this all so they can make this tv show fell now stargate ip is very cool ip if they dont keep on going with tv shows and give it all 5 seasons then peaple may feel like they dont want to sopport syfy beacuse of there cut’ing the show now i feel syfy is not even syfy being human is just another remake its sad to see stargate sgu drop beacuse of syfy mgm should work hard to keep sgu on the air and have it up to 5 seasons its to sad that someone one would let this happen mgm was great now it feels like they dont care even james bond and sgu is only at 2 season not even 3 its junk to alow this to happen just put all the eps on dvd and sell every eps and season that way ill buy every one of sgu dvds

  25. knowles2
    knowles2
    (73 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 4:10 am |

    So what else was happening in America, surely a decline of this magnitude 12 and 13% points. Whole right read the article a other crappy reality TV just begun.

    Scifi should have been expecting at least 10% drop one would of thought.

  26. katikatnik
    katikatnik
    (261 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 4:17 am |

    @Greenfire32: That doesn’t explain why SGA’s ratings remained steady and even grew during S5, even though it aired after its cancellation was announced. Right now, SGU is exactly where Caprica used to be.

  27. Glucharina
    Glucharina
    (17 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 5:06 am |

    I wonder if SyFy executives are laughing diabolically about ruining the franchise.

  28. FakeNetworkExec
    FakeNetworkExec
    (2 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 5:15 am |

    SyFy executives are looking at budgets and the truth is they make more money running Ghost Hunters then they do SG-U. They also did a piss poor jobe of marketing the show and they kept moving the show to s****y time slots with huge gaps between seasons.

    I would love to know what the fees totaled that SyFy was paying for the show. SG-U was one of the very few reasons to every turn on SyFy. 99% of their shows are mediocre, at best. If it wasn’t for Startgate and maybe Sanctuary, there would be no reason to even turn on the channel. I would rather watch the Discovery Channel or Histry Channel.

  29. GoodThings2Life
    GoodThings2Life
    (21 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:06 am |

    As much as I enjoy the franchise, the episode was just awful. It’s like they don’t even care about scientific concepts anymore.

    As for the ratings drop, duh. Yet another bad night and time slot, and every fan left is well aware that the series is canceled by now. I don’t have a Neilsen box, so even I opt to watch Castle live and then SGU afterwards via DVR.

  30. GoodThings2Life
    GoodThings2Life
    (21 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:07 am |

    PS– V is done for the season now, so leaving it on Tuesdays would have actually been a better choice. Look what happened to Third Rock and other shows that got moved around all the time… they always tank when people can’t figure out what night its on.

  31. takm209
    takm209
    (1 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:10 am |

    Good science fiction is not yet over. The “science channel” is airing shows like Scifi science and Firefly. Hopefully they will get enough ratings that space based science fiction will get reborn over on the science channel. Its just amazing to me that a channel called SyFy isn’t producing any space based sci fi shows. Syfy will go broke when WWE moves to another station like it does ever 3 or so years.

  32. knowles2
    knowles2
    (73 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:52 am |

    As much as I enjoy the franchise, the episode was just awful. It’s like they don’t even care about scientific concepts anymore.

    An what scientific concept did they get wrong in the last episode.

  33. Mike Amo
    Mike Amo
    (6 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 7:18 am |

    The episode was very good, and the remaining ones look increasingly so. The ratings would logically drop based on the 12 million sticking with Castle after DWTS. I never watch either, but both are huge draws, and for some reason, so is Harry’s Law. Also, there’s the pesky major 4 networks vs. 500 cable channels thing.

  34. kaistrife
    kaistrife
    (1 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 8:27 am |

    @katikatnik: SGA maintained it’s ratings because fans knew at the end of the season they would be rewarded with an actual ending. For SGU, we’re getting a cliffhanger that might not be resolved. Some fans don’t want to watch that and then find out they’ll never know what happened.

  35. lopo30
    lopo30
    (31 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 9:00 am |

    well there are days in a week where are no criminal investication series more then 1 series for a day … take the day and show the show in the day where you dont have havy competition with criminal investication shows what are the most popular gener in the world … every year is coming few new tv shows about investication … for me i just dont watch investication tv shows cause they all are the same for me .. different charecters and stories but still the main thing is same and these series get 12milj. viewer raiting .. five-0 is in it’s first season and have already 10miljon in ratings what says alot about the tc channel … syfy raitings are so bad cause people dont watch that channel anymore … what reason other can there be if abc and cbs and nbc channels get over 10 milj. in viewer raitings … syfy dont get over 10milj. in raiting even with wresling what is holding syfy alive
    if there will be new series of stargate i really hope that it will not be in SYFY channel cause if it will then we can be sure it will not last long

  36. Noldor
    Noldor
    (35 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 9:22 am |

    I understand that syfy is promoting SGU quite a lot. And i can`t help thinking about what it would do to the ratings if they state that McKay is back in episode 15. I think that will realy help the ratings. Maybe the most popular character in the Stargate franchise ever.

  37. Leonick
    Leonick
    (10 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 9:24 am |

    Of course they are dropping, everyone knows the show is canceled and will end in a big cliffhanger (and they keeping moving the show around), I’ve consider the last episodes simply not to watch anymore and SGU has since the second part of season one been one of the best SciFi series in my opinion.

    Glad I am watching though, last three episodes have been great (specially twin destinies), no surprise there, still it will end in a cliffhanger :(

  38. jjs
    jjs
    (33 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 11:14 am |

    I really am not surprised by the drop in ratings for this episode. Quite frankly the trailer for this episode looked boring and when I saw it was a “stones episode” I almost didn’t watch it myself.

    Ya know, people keep talking about how McKay’s episode is going to be such a hit because of his character. And it got me thinking, if they make a 4th Stargate show sometime in the future, would anyone care if someone from Destiny showed up as a guest character? I’m not sure any of these characters are popular enough to ever be brought back.

    Here is hoping next week’s episode is better as I really don’t want to see the last remaining episodes be as mediocre as this one was.

    jjs

  39. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 11:50 am |

    Thanks for posting the ratings, Darren. Some of us are still interested in the facts. And there are always a lot of reasons why the ratings may be up or down any given week. I don’t think anyone really believes that the ratings went down 12 percent this week because of the quality of the show. The quality of the show has improved a bit, if anything. But there was stiff competition and even stiffer lead-in competition. It’s not going to do well on a Monday night and Syfy knows this. After cancelling it, they don’t so much care about it’s ratings when they were already pretty low. And no other networks were looking at it so that’s not really a concern at this point. And even if there had been, they’d look at it from the perspective of how they could juggle it to get the best ratings. These are television network professionals. They understand things like the ratings going down when there’s big-time hits in the same timeslot.

    As for being human getting cancelled, probably not. It would be insanely cheaper to make. I wouldn’t be surprised if they came in at under $200k per episode (though I would be shocked if it was a great deal more than that). The effects are limited and simple and they don’t need a lot of elaborate sets. So their ratings could go much lower and still make more money than SGU.

    SGU was very expensive to make both in cast and in production costs. This is a large part of what did them in. What they actually should have done was started SGU as a movie, stuck to unknown actors and then switched over to a television show. They could have gotten the budget to build out more sets that way and have lessened the weekly production costs. That combined with some better marketing and better managing could have kept the show afloat. But they left themselves with no corners they could cut and they also failed to realize how to capitalize on the franchise as a whole rather than individual segments. And it’s no secret that I do put the blame for this on Brad Wright. He created a bad situation for Syfy which Syfy then didn’t know what to do with. Yes they made mistakes with things like timeslots and whatnot but it’s because they didn’t get the ratings killer that they had been told was coming their way. So they panicked. Syfy is actually a very small network made up of mostly second-tier staff. The people there that are good use it as a stepping stone to work their way up, leaving those that can’t quite make it behind. So no, they’re not your best and brightest and Syfy even when it was Scifi couldn’t afford the best and brightest or entice them to stay in other ways. But it was still because of Brad Wright’s decision both to not want to do 2 shows at the same time and to head in a completely new direction with the promise of big ratings that is ultimately to blame for the situation.

  40. hewittor
    hewittor
    (42 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:00 pm |

    Last episode was great. No one is watching because if you haven’t watched from the beginning…you don’t know what the hell is going on. It’s too dark. I love it just because I’m a Stargate nerd…but they spend wayyyyy too much time on the ship

  41. Cube
    Cube
    (75 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:07 pm |

    Dude pawn stars owns even if it seems they are acting or putting on drama for the camera, most the time it is a funny little skit.

    And Rick the old man and chumlee everybody is fun to watch good people.

    I would rather watch pawn stars than star gate universe any day and that is what I did last time…

  42. ipfnd
    ipfnd
    (21 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:31 pm |

    How ridiculous this is. Obviously people aren’t bothering to watch live because the show is dead and why bother unless you really are hooked on stargate, which I am. I agree that they should have run it during the summer like “the old days”. Although it may still not have survived the character building snooze fest that was year one. Please can no one ask about a movie anymore?? please

  43. lonix
    lonix
    (29 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:46 pm |

    “People are not watching because the show was cancelled”. No people are not watching because the 1st series was ****, had 3 goodish episodes and with that budget should of done better. People watched BSG because it was refreshing and even that show is having failures. Go watch series 1 of SG1 and compare you will see such a difference in the “Entertainment” factor and the same with BSG. SGU has only NOW become a far better show but too late the damage is done. And people stop blaming anti SGU people for no more SG blame the producers and the writers who should of given everyone a better 1st season. We didnt want Beverhills 90210 in Space and even then it was still slow. Show failed because of the top people who chose to take this show along a too slow route.

  44. nzsyfylova
    nzsyfylova
    (6 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:49 pm |

    I am not surprised by the low ratings as I was pretty bored watching this episode. I have to agree with one of the above posts about stones episodes, they are soooooo boring!

  45. StargateDominator
    StargateDominator
    (29 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 2:57 pm |

    Next episode Hope’s Trailer is already on youtube,lol,look it up.

  46. Ryster
    Ryster
    (49 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 4:50 pm |

    I disagree nzsyfylova. A lack of action does not equal “boring”, at least not for me. While not the best episode of the season, it certainly wasn’t boring. I think it largely served to set the scene for future episodes, which I look forward to.

  47. Sparky
    Sparky
    (14 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:37 pm |

    The drop in viewers is not unexpected, after all who would want to watch a TV series that ends with a cliffhanger aside from us hardcore fans?

    However the treatment SGU has had is very poor, (not to mention all the other series) “that channel” is competing against HUNDREDS of other channels and pitting SGU against established shows that have already been on TV for several weeks, maybe months, with viewing figures over ten times that “that channel” could possibly get, well, if you do your not going to have a ratings hit on your hands.

    When programs are moved around the schedule your viewers wont be bothered when the program is on, they wont be watching.

    Advertising on your own channel is all well and good, but to increase your audience, advertising on other channels is necessary.

    The mid season hiatus is absolutely killing viewing figures for all series, added with a crap advertising (RE: none), who knows when shows return? Poof, there goes half your viewers.

    I’m sad that SGU is a victim of THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE DONE, but if you have no alternative you cannot expect any different. A shame really, I want to know how everything turns out.

  48. Hyncharas
    (15 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 6:48 pm |

    I think the simple fact is since the show has been written off by Syfy and everyone else (at least in the US/Canada); given that DVR statistics will NEVER count towards actual ratings, the fans are who failed SGU.

  49. Joe Friday
    Joe Friday
    (50 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 8:01 pm |

    At this rate, SyFy will do what NBC did with The Cape, and air SGU’s final episode on the web only.

  50. ZJW
    ZJW
    (20 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 8:33 pm |

    Why are people all over the mid-season break as a source of ratings decline? Stargate has always had suck a break since moving to the SF channel in 2002. In fact you could always count on a mini spike for the big return episode. Also, i won’t go into detail regarding all of my thoughts but as much as the channel is to blame the fans are as well. People didn’t give it a shot out of spite for it replace their beloved Atlantis. Now i enjoyed Atlantis but was ready for a change and have fully embraced the direction SGU has been going. It hasn’t always been smooth but it’s really found it’s footing in season 2. Of course it didn’t help that they never kept their word on the pending Atlantis and SG-1 movies. I know it’s not entirely their fault as the market is bad blah blah blah but i think it hurts SGU that it’s the only Stargate. Once it’s over though we’ll have no Stargate :-/

  51. rylett
    rylett
    (15 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 8:55 pm |

    the truth is that SGU was a sad and pathetic ending to a great franchise. i suspect that the long time producers od SG-1 and SGA were tired and bored of the formula and decided to try something new that didn’t work. most unfortunate for longtime fans of the original series.

  52. rylett
    rylett
    (15 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 8:59 pm |

    the truth is that SGU was a sad and pathetic ending to a great franchise. i suspect that the long time producers of SG-1 and SGA were tired and bored with the formula and decided to try something new that didn’t work. most unfortunate for longtime fans of the original series.

  53. jonah1956
    jonah1956
    (39 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 11:05 pm |

    Just watched the episode on my PVR, have to say that it was the first episode of SGU that I enjoyed! Greer and Camille are my favourite characters on SGU and having an episode that has a good plot and conflict based around the two of them was very entertaining! :)

  54. Uncle Al
    Uncle Al
    (50 comments)
    March 23, 2011 at 11:30 pm |

    My guess is that the average casual viewer with a Nielsen box probably doesn’t even know that the series did not get renewed and will end on a cliffhanger. The majority of viewers don’t read up on all of the news for the shows they watch. So please stop using this as an excuse for the poor ratings.

  55. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 1:59 am |

    The average casual viewer probably doesn’t even watch SyFy, except for wrestling.

    @ZJW you may be right about that, but keep in mind that SGU is a different type of show than Atlantis or SG-1. It would be more fair to compare it to Battlestar or Lost. Lost did poorly when it came back from a break. ABC learned this lesson and decided to run straight through the season.

    I bet that the majority of viewers don’t even realize SGU is back yet and that its on a different night. Unless you watch SyFy religiously or follow closely sights like Gateworld or other sites then you wouldn’t know.

    I really LOVED the final year that SyFy canceled Atlantis and decided to run STRAIGHT THROUGH the complete season, except for the occasional holiday break. I always hated SyFy’s breaks because they were un-predictable, much like the DVD releases. You could never tell when it was going to come back because they are always changing up how they do things, and this is not good for a network that barely gets enough viewers as it is.

    I hope that SyFy’s non-canceled franchises continue to do well and that they find some new ones that attract audiences because if they don’t then they’ll go the way of UPN. SyFy seems to be in an identity crisis at the moment and can’t decide what the heck it wants. This is clear if you go on just about any discussion board where people discuss the network and its recent actions. They better figure out what they are and who they want to cater to soon or they’ll be gone.

  56. janet99
    janet99
    (24 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 6:39 am |

    I don’t think the rating figures are anywhere near accurate either. I know far too many people who have watched episodes to believe they are correct.

    Granted most probably watched Internet downloads or streams but thats the nature of modern times and changing technology (just like when video recorders became commonplace).

    SG:A especially suffered from this too. When I was at college during season 5, a good proportion of students would watch it (anecdotally, I’d estimate it was fairly high on the “top 10” shows of students at my college), but the vast majority downloaded it, almost no-one had cable.

    If only they could make a sustainable model that doesn’t rely on channel views, TPTB could probably bring back all 3 SG versions and make a killing.

  57. ZJW
    ZJW
    (20 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 10:35 am |

    Yeah – i don’t know about my friend base on the whole but prior to SGU’s spring return I had a talk with two different friends who were both fans but neither of them had cable. We’re all college age folk and unless cable comes included (which fortunately it does in my apartment building) then it’s an extra expense… point is they were remised about not being able to watch “live” but both would of course end up downloading the series.

  58. lopo30
    lopo30
    (31 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 11:33 am |

    i just dont understand how did series like Xena heracles and so on survied in the 90’s when were no raitings and they survied long with many seasons … rite now all fantasy shows dont last long cause of the stuped raitings … syfy should not play by the raitings cause there channel has so little audiance that they should not look raitings … if series like Five-0 what is remake and is in the end of it’s first season and have over 10milj. viewers it’s says a lot about the channel it’s on.
    Syfy channel makes long hiatus breaks for every series and so on … all good shows get canceled cause of syfy … think how long will last series Eureka … it had mid season break over a half a year and now last episode was already more then 4 months ago and still no answer from syfy when it will return…
    if syfy wants to survive then they should stop these stuped hiatus breaks and dont look the raitings to make a desision for new season and so on … what is the average raitings for syfy channel … if it is under 5milj. people then the 800k who watch sgu should be a big percent for the show in that channel

  59. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 11:57 am |

    When I was at college I did not get SyFy either so my roomates and I watched SGA and BSG through DVD’s or downloaded episodes. Most universities probably do not have SyFy as part of their cable programming package because its not “educational” (though my college had no problem having BET in that package to satisfy the black population…they even tried removing it one time and caved in to the backlash from the black community. I wonder if the nerd community did the same backlash over SyFy if they would add it? Probably not).

    And even before that our cable provider used to have SyFy, but replaced it with FX about a decade ago and only after I got back from school did they add it in. How many other people are like this? How many college students can’t watch it live but would if they could?

  60. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 11:57 am |

    …which is interesting considering that their demographic is a younger audience, and that audience is most likely attending college (or going to) so how much of that young audience DOES watch it that can’t?

  61. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 12:03 pm |

    @janet99 – Do you know 814,001 people who watched it? If not, then you don’t know there were more viewers. :P

    Again, people, unless you have a nielsen box it doesn’t matter how you’re watching it. And there’s as much chance that the ratings are slanted in favor of the show as there is that they’re slanted against it. Believe what you will but the show failed because the people who call the shots for Stargate, whom have worked at it for decades and KNOW how the game works, failed to produce a show that got the ratings it needed. It’s that simple.

  62. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 12:45 pm |

    While SGU has dropped 12%,for obvious reasons,Being Human has dropped over 20% and it’s on ep 10.And if you check out SyFy’s “huge”,”ambicious” plan for the next fall it’s completely and this time factually clear what turn they’d taken.No more guess work.
    It’s pittyful,laughable and as every business trying to surf the backtide of others,longterm bound to FAIL!
    But TV and sci-fi on it are like fashion,or music..they’re never finished.Bound to have their 70’s till punk revolution,or 80’s till alter-rock revoulution.Sci-fi will rise again!Somewhere,somehow.
    Stargate R.I.P. Sci-Fi Channel R.I.P.

  63. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 1:10 pm |

    This is my apology to all SGA fans out there that I may have been hard on,I’ a fan too!
    Whenever I think of John Sheppard,I remember this song,it describes his character quite well,don’t you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBGWk_qm-z4

  64. daug21
    daug21
    (7 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

    not to be nit-picky Jim, but SGU has lost 65% of the audience, and by when SGU was at ep 10 they had already lost 43% of their audience.

  65. katikatnik
    katikatnik
    (261 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm |

    @Jim: I agree, BH dropped a lot too. But I’ll use the “excuse bingo card” that SGU fans often use: scheduling. BH is a heavily female skewing show going against the premiere of DWTS, which is huge with female audience. It was obvious it would take a hit. Hey, if SGU fans can use this… ;P

    In any case, I don’t care either way, since I don’t watch BH, just saying that if SGU fans want to use these excuses, they also need to accept them when it comes to other shows. It’s not aimed against you, Jim, just generally.

  66. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 5:29 pm |

    @daug21 So?And it will lose even more probably,it is only natural and again for obvious reasons.I watched SGU and was never counted in,and am pretty certain I’m not the only one.Besides I was talking just about the difference between last two eps.

    @katikatnik LOL! I know and I agree,that’s not an excuse at all,although it has been oftenly used.Which doesn’t mean I’m saying scheduling is not a problem at all.But if it is,it runs much deeper than just comparing it with other shows on other networks.It has to do with those long hiatuses,changing the standard SG MO..summer-winter and shifting the airing days in the first place.
    But using excuses such as it didn’t fair well because that day was Chuck,or Castle is completely pointless,that’s how tv works.

  67. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 5:33 pm |

    Oh,btw,I didn’t know BH was aiming at female audiences,lol,I watched the UK version and thought it was great.That was the reason I checked out this one as well.And guess what,it isn’t that bad at all,my main objection is that it follows allthe major plot points from the original,if that wasn’t so and if it wasn’t on SyFy it probably would be fine:)

  68. ib1117
    ib1117
    (45 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 6:54 pm |

    Ratings don’t mean anything to me anymore now that the show has no hope of a third season, I’m just going to sit back and enjoy the last 7 episodes of the last true Sci-fi shows on “SYFY.”

  69. pixelstuff
    pixelstuff
    (13 comments)
    March 24, 2011 at 8:32 pm |

    The problem with ignoring the ratings as one comment above suggested is that the advertisers supply the money and they look at the ratings to decide where best to advertise. Interesting though how we rarely see science or sci-fi related advertisments during shows like SGU.

    I think the failing of SGU is an accumulation of many problems listed above. Another one reason that the SGU epsiodes oozed Battlestar Galactica. It’s as if the writers or directors saw Battlestar and envied the look. So they promptly finished up SGA earlier than necessary and a new offshoot where they could try their hand with dark and dirty locations. Even going so far as to drop the “hyperspace” terminology in favor of Battlestar’s FTL acronymn.

    The drastic change from the look of SG1 and SGA and constantly occurring similarities with Battlstar Galactica is rather annoying from a Stargate fan perspective. I think if they had either kept the the brighter feel of SG1 and SGA or perhaps created a completely original concept they would have done better.

    I predicted this kind of outcome before the show ever aired after reading an interview about the cancellation of SGA because they wanted to do something darker, edgier, and more character oriented for younger demographics. That kind of reasoning almost always indicates a sure fail and shows a lack of understanding of why stories with dark and edgy environments appeal to younger ages.

    By the way, Battle Star Galactica almost shot itself in the foot during later seasons. Not because it lost any of it’s dark and gritty feel but because it picked up to much internal political conflict to the exclusion of actual “science” fiction ideas. Both SGU and BSG seem like an effort to watch to the end rather than the highlight of the week.

    Most people watch SciFi stories each because they like seeing ideas they’ve never considered. Seeing grown adults argue back and forth about every little thing rarely qualifies.

  70. stargatebear
    stargatebear
    (2 comments)
    March 27, 2011 at 9:55 pm |

    hmmm let’s see well all the networks are suffering , not just because of the crappy economy, because people are dropping their cable service because they cannot afford it or they watch everything on the web now. I wonder if SyFy has heard about that thing the internet and how many people are getting their television from it now and not from a service.

  71. stargatebear
    stargatebear
    (2 comments)
    March 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm |

    BTW the SyFy version of being human is so lame compared the the BBC version. I will be surprised if it makes it to season 3. Since SyFy is owned by NBC/Universal, and that broadcast network is in 4th place, they cut the budget on all shows, even the ones that have excellent ratings. SyFy has not been spared the axe either. It is cheaper to create new series with young undiscovered talent than re-up an established series with named actors. I forse most new series on SyFy last a max of 3 seasons as long as the mother network is at the bottom. Hopefully Warehouse 13 and Eureka will not fall because of their success. Wait till those 2 shoe actors start talking about a raise as they prop up SyFy.

  72. ryan.poehls
    ryan.poehls
    (6 comments)
    March 28, 2011 at 5:33 pm |

    SGU is as good as ever. I think SGU needs a better time slot and SyFy has dropped the ball on the series. It’s Syfy is the reason for the low ratings. If the show was on a better network, we wouldn’t see SGU being canceled. Plus Sci-Fi fans don’t understand why wrestling is on Sy where SGU should be. Not to mention the SyFy demographic DVRs the show and doesn’t watch it live or watches it on the internet. Being on Tuesday night, now Monday night doesn’t help either.

  73. bestdarngood
    bestdarngood
    (1 comments)
    April 5, 2011 at 10:36 pm |

    And Just when the show was starting to get good, SyFy cancels… I honestly watch Fringe, Chuck, V, No Ordinary Family, Smallville, and all of the seasons of Stargate. Stargate sure wasn’t the best show when it started, but it has finally started getting better and is more like the other Stargate series. I love the Sci-fi part of Stargate and believe that there was just too much drama for the beginning episodes that this show didn’t take off more. I also don’t generally watch shows during their timeslot as I am too busy with work and such and so end up watching them online. So maybe if you included all of those that watch them online, maybe post them on your site sooner with commercials, then you might just see the “number” of viewers go up. Anyway, it’s sad that so many shows get cancelled so early these days, though this one has had some time. This one just needs more excitement and more of the old stargate attitude to be really good. Thanks guys for reading

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