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[…] and ‘Twin Destinies.’  Ratings Update: And this doesn’t make any sense, but viewership drops by 16 percent over last week’s episode. Common […]

tomaso88
tomaso88
11 years ago

that’s CRAZY one of the best episodes yet only 861k views this episode deserved at least 2million seriously dam I wish it hadn’t been cancelled they should have just stopped with season 1 now that it’s gotten good I Really am upset it’s getting cancelled

JDeus01
JDeus01
11 years ago

God! you are killing me ppl

Ugly Pig
Ugly Pig
11 years ago

Eh, it’s not like ratings matter anymore. We know now they’ll never conclude the story anyway. :(

holtzy11
holtzy11
11 years ago

oh come on!!!! that was the best episode practically…there trying so hard People seriously man up and F# watch the damn show!!

JoeTheDragon
JoeTheDragon
11 years ago

they also had the NHL and NBA playoff games on at the same time and pawn stars.

knowles2
knowles2
11 years ago

Not surprise they move the show to a different time slow, put up against even greater competition. Whole announce to the world that the series ends on a gigantic cliff, what did they think would happen.

Lee_Machine
Lee_Machine
11 years ago

Gateworld should really stop posting these vastly inaccurate numbers. They don’t take into account world wide viewers (Me in Japan), DVR, iTunes, and Hulu. Then there are the huge fans like me who cannot get the show any other way besides iTunes (legally). This whole situation is f***** up, and it’s a damn shame SGU had to die because of it. In the next few years the online model will go mainstream, but it will be too late for SGU. Autonomous needs to get on this and take down NBC/Universal :)

Lee_Machine
Lee_Machine
11 years ago

I know (hope) we will get closure for SGU in some form, be it novel or graphic novel, but will the franchise live on in those formats in official cannon? Meaning the plots and stories advance and not at the end of the book it’s as if nothing ever happened. The SGA Legacy series is different…is that official cannon now? Brad Wright and the rest of the team need to clarify this.

katikatnik
katikatnik
11 years ago

@Lee_Machine: To be very brutal – for the continuation of the series/franchise, you matter very little. The online numbers matter very little. Only the US live+SD and C3 numbers matter. SyFy isn’t the CW where all their shows are made “in-house”, so they get revenue from abroad and thus the netlet can afford lower US ratings (there was a whole article about the wonder of the CW’s continuous survival). SyFy’s US based and the shows they air don’t belong to them, they don’t care about viewers abroad because they don’t bring them any money. No other network/cable was interested in… Read more »

Lee_Machine
Lee_Machine
11 years ago

Oh no offence here, it’s more of an emotional rant than anything :)

I’m just as annoyed as I’m sure you are. You sounded quite depressed in the emergency Gatworld podcast. My wife and I look forward to your Stargate commentaries. Are you doing every episode or just say the top 25 at first?

So if MGM knows this why not keep the show alive online? Charge a few dollars an ep for everyone in the world?

katikatnik
katikatnik
11 years ago

@Lee_Machine: Regarding SGA:Legacy. Only what you see on TV is strictly canon. Everything else is fandom – as far as the creators/writers are concerned. For MGM, SGA:Legacy is the only continuation of the SGA canon there is – at the moment. Jo Graham and Co. and Fandemonium have MGM’s blessing, they don’t need BW’s or JM’s, only MGM’s who is the owner of the rights. This is as canon as it gets. What Jo Graham and Co. did is basically on par with Timothy Zahn’s continuation of Star Wars. Or with Andy Mangels’ continuation of Star Trek: Enterprise. On the… Read more »

Piernik
Piernik
11 years ago

SGU is great. Who care about the ratings anymore?

Lee_Machine
Lee_Machine
11 years ago

I’ve only read one SG-1 book, and the first SGA Legacy book. Legacy aside it had the feel of anime filler. Great for character development/backstory but at the end nothing happened. We won’t be seeing any conclusion for sometime to come, but if/when the franchise is rebooted they need to do it in the future so they don’t have to forget everything that happened in the previous series, but it’s in the future so you know things have changed. The Furlings are longer in hiding :)

Browncoat1984
Browncoat1984
11 years ago

Why are we surprised? They just freakin announced that not only SGU but the FRANCHISE is ending! So nobody cares to watch live because they know it won’t matter, and even before that announcement it didn’t. That being said, the lead-in or lead-out or whatever has NOTHING to do with ratings. Seriously, why would somebody who wants to watch a show about vampires, ghosts and werewolves want to watch a dark, character-driven space drama? They have NOTHING in common. I’ve never understood this obsession with lead-ins and lead-outs. I like a show, I watch it, and I’m done, and I… Read more »

Browncoat1984
Browncoat1984
11 years ago

@Lee With the announcement of no further Stargate TV from Brade Wright, that may change from the novels. Until Star Trek Enterprise ended and the Trek franchise went on a similar hiatus (and even now with no new stories coming from the Primeverse) the novels for Trek were the same – great character development, ok stories but nothing special because they couldn’t kill off characters. Now, with it pretty much being a sure thing that we’ll never see these characters on the screen again, the novels are far more bold. *SPOILERS FOR RECENT TREK NOVELS BELOW – YOU HAVE BEEN… Read more »

Starscapesg1
Starscapesg1
11 years ago

Im guessing the time change and lead in series had very little to do with this ratings drop. I watch live every week. Im guessing since they announced that they shelved the whole franchise had a lot more to do with it.

New Guy
New Guy
11 years ago

I’m more sad about the cancellation of SGU now then I was when it happened a few months ago. I actually like the show now. I still think it lags behind SG-1), but it’s actually a good show.

It’s all the fault of a bad SGU first season— if it wasn’t for a truly horrific season 1… we might have another long Stargate series run.

Sylvia
Sylvia
11 years ago

What I wish they had done was to give SGA a 6th and final season, used it to launch a mini-series of SGU where they could see what worked and what didn’t (given the new direction) and then tweaked it a bit before the actual series started.

captainawesome
captainawesome
11 years ago

So.. anyone else notice this episode is exactly like the Deep Space Nine episode “Children of Time?” It annoyed the hell out of me watching it. The fact that this episode is a sequel to that SGU episode that’s exactly like Voyager’s “Deadlock” compounded it. So we’re just getting lazy in the final strecth, eh?

Hyncharas
11 years ago

I don’t seriously know what people expect. Half the normal Stargate audience simply can’t watch the show the day it’s on, and now Syfy has mothballed the franchise it doesn’t make any difference if there’s not going to be another series. Because the story is being shown in two seasons instead of five, the overall premise of the show has been lost anyway. GateWorld, I appreciate that you have this responsibility to report on all things Stargate, but stop revealing the f***ing ratings for the episodes! If Syfy actually cared about it they would change their minds – but they… Read more »

jonah1956
jonah1956
11 years ago

This episode was actually pretty good! :)

puddlejumper_1
puddlejumper_1
11 years ago

May I be the first to say FRACK THIS RATINGS!!! You want good ratings, then put SGU on friday’s where stargate has been on for the past decade! Smackdown obviously draws in ratings, so why not have SGU be after Smackdown. Syfy is just trying to make their decision to cancel the show right by puting it against tough competition. Millions of people watch stargate, obviously not at the time their giving it, but at a later time because they have shows that starts on mondays 9/8c for years. You can’t expect people to just drop their usual tv schedule… Read more »

shermacidal
shermacidal
11 years ago

@puddlejumper-1
I agree, u would think with Stargate supposedly being MGM’s second highest money making franchise behind james bond that they would take more intrest in the future of a show that has brought them a big chunk of their income

Lee_Machine
Lee_Machine
11 years ago

As JM said in his blog. It’s not what have you done for me. but rather what have you done for me lately. After SciFi Friday, and then the canx of SGA the franchise is not what it used to be money making wise. So they killed it no matter how great the show was/is. If they can produce something that makes more money they will. The only way to stop this from happening again is for a bunch of SciFi film makers to take their talent online only and charge everyone in the world the same at the same… Read more »

Imperious
Imperious
11 years ago

Well, it’s not as though SGU is on its own here is it? I mean both “V” and “The Event” are possibly on the chopping block and neither are as good as SGU. That would make 3 scifi series with no conclusion, although “V” could probably finish off nicely with a mini-series. Taking into consideration what ratings SyFy channels seems to get across the board, it is as though SyFy is no longer capable of high ratings numbers at all. TV viewership overall has declined enormously the last few years, and this is the case across at least the whole… Read more »

worgel
worgel
11 years ago

Agree with Sylvia about what should have been done with SGA and SGU. SGA should have gotten a 6th season and SGU should have been a miniseries first ala BSG. No wonder MGM went bankrupt. Don’t get me wrong I think SGU is a solid show especially season 2 but that doesn’t matter now …unfortunately. Also agree with Imperious. Basically all Sci-Fi shows are on the chopping block. Its dark days for sci-fi fans. TV is about to get very boring. Of course this this how the system works anyway. Basically get rid of the thought provoking shows first. Networks… Read more »

blackhawlk
blackhawlk
11 years ago

Well I didnt find SGU a thought provoking show, sheesh, far from it and if America is becoming Idiocracy then the rest of the world must be as well as SGU tanked in every country it was aired it. Syfy gave every chance to SGU to improve. They were not responsible for over a million viewers tuning out. It’s not up to Syfy either to tell the writers to come up with a satifactory ending. The writing was on the wall since the end of season one that SGU was in cancellation territory, so it was down to the writers… Read more »

Browncoat1984
Browncoat1984
11 years ago

Ugh, I’m so sick of people throwing the “the producers told fans not to watch if they didn’t like SGU” line around.

First off, the casual Stargate fan who just tunes in is not going to be aware of that comment AT ALL or of Gateworld really or follow the producers on Twitter.

Second, really? It doesn’t matter if he said that or not, people would have approached with that mentality ANYWAY. The only people who DIDN’T like it who would watch it are the really die-hard Stargate fans.

puddlejumper_1
puddlejumper_1
11 years ago

@blackhawlk MGM has much more of a roll than to finance. They are the owners of the show. Seriously when syfy told them we would like to move your show to monday’s, they should have stepped up and said monday’s isn’t good. Brought up a little chart that says look at our competiton and disagreed with the move. But they didn’t because syfy already canned the show so they put up no fight so they can get what money they still can from SGU. Also I think syfy has the rights for a new stargate movie? They should sue MGM… Read more »

lonix
lonix
11 years ago

I actually cant be bothered to watch this episode, I am so sick of same old story lines and I hated this type of an episode in Star Trek. No More meeting their own generational offspring please. Ever.

lmaceleighton
lmaceleighton
11 years ago

After reading a bit of what some of you wrote I have to agree that the rating systems are messed up. I have known literally dozen of “Neilson Families” after having a friend that worked the cable company near where I live. I had no idea how many people that I knew had one of these boxes. They gives these boxes to people that don’t really represent people that watch these types of shows, or at least not enough wide spread to be considered a proper representation of the correct demographics. Also it is a good point that others have… Read more »

Browncoat1984
Browncoat1984
11 years ago

Imaceleighton you are absolutely right. I have seen advertisements for the new series of Doctor Who on SyFy during Stargate Universe, and on Discovery during Deadliest Catch (one of the highest rated series on that network and one of my favorite non-SF shows!) Why Can’t SyFy do this for SGU and other shows? Why can’t SyFy return the favor and have BBC air Stargate Universe during the new season of Doctor Who (I know, its a bit late, but imagine if they had done that LAST year). Imagine how much bigger the numbers might be if people who watched the… Read more »

warren_sg1
warren_sg1
11 years ago

what a brilliant episode! i am so gutted that they decided to finish SGU. it is so much better than a hundred other terrible television shows that continue to get viewers, i mean two and a half men?! i can’t believe people would rather watch that, then SGU! the creators and writers need a pat on the back and in my opinion and a great deal of recognition for this cracking series! its a pity more people don’t see it that way, or perhaps the Stargate franchise would continue, and i really hope in the future that someone revives it.… Read more »

Greenfire32
Greenfire32
11 years ago

:

“With all due respect, Lee, the numbers are not inaccurate”

Sorry Darren, but the numbers ARE inaccurate. I know you tried to justify your argument by saying that no one is pretending to count TOTAL views and are only trying to ESTIMATE, but even the ESTIMATED TOTAL is downright wrong.

The system is flawed and you, me, and everyone else knows it.

medegno51
medegno51
11 years ago

@Greenfire32: In all my years coming to this site when the eyeball numbers are discussed, I’ve never known Darren (or other with very related info) to be inaccurate or misguided in his discussions about ratings and the system which props it up. Until the U.S. TV execs adopts a better system that they *ALL* will accept at the same. then this system is what we got. S SGU had to survive within that same environment as the other shows like Being Human, Lost, Survivor, American Idol, and the like. “Universe’s” 15-plus-year SG writing team didn’t grab onto and hold those… Read more »

medegno51
medegno51
11 years ago

(doggone edit gremlin!)

Should’ve said: “Until the U.S. TV execs adopts a better system that they *ALL* will accept at the same time, then this system is what we got.”

Apologies.

Jim
Jim
11 years ago

I agree with Sylvia,the best thing would’ve been to keep SGA around for another season,while starting this new show with a miniseries and then tweeking it if necessary.