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  1. Michael Sacal
    Michael Sacal
    May 10, 2011 at 7:30 pm |

    I would really like to see those continued ratings reports for any shows that replace SGU on the schedule (it be nice to see the same for Caprica) to have an expanding record of how it is the nights in question that are killing shows and not their quality.

  2. Browncoat1984
    May 10, 2011 at 7:33 pm |

    This is proof that the audience is there and that Nielsenn is just not telling the whole story. At this point I’m so fraking sick of Nielsenn ratings that I really would rather not see reports anymore because every time I click on it its lower and lower ratings .

    SyFy should just have stuck to airing its scripted dramas in the summer. That’s all there is to it. Air your lighthearted dramas at the beginning like Eureka and Warehouse 13 and your more serious dramas like Stargate in the end July/August. You’ll get higher ratings because people won’t have anything else to watch. They can air their cheaper reality shows during the fall and won’t have to worry as much about lower ratings because they’re cheap to produce

    Either that or just accept that during the fall/spring seasons when competition is higher they should just accept lower numbers.

    That being said, where were all those viewers for the entire run of the series?? Why couldn’t they just stick it out? If they had we wouldn’t be having a discussion on the series finale but the season finale and be looking forward to season 3! Wish we knew what it would take to convince people that right now its important that they watch the shows live, at least until networks, especially in regards to sci-fi & fantasy accept that people use other means to watch TV.

    Means, I might add, that are advertised during the shows. If these methods like Hulu and iTunes and watching on SyFy’s website are not counted at all, why then do they advertise them? You always see the “watch on iTunes” during the show but to me it seems like a self-defeating advertisement because when people do then that means fewer viewers and canceled shows.

  3. peterhignett
    May 10, 2011 at 7:42 pm |

    Funnily enough it was an amazing end… to an amazing show. I wished it had continued for another three seasons but so happy the way it ended.

    Ironically it had the best ending compared to the other two shows in the franchise.

    Sorry to see it end.

  4. Sylvia
    May 10, 2011 at 7:51 pm |

    Sad numbers

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  6. Billz
    May 10, 2011 at 8:43 pm |

    I hope that Sanctuary won’t be next on Syfy’s chopping block…


  7. acranea
    May 10, 2011 at 8:44 pm |

    This whole situation has reminded me of how I used to think.I’m sure I’m not alone in this either.
    It became obvious to me many,many years ago that most people are perfectly happy to sit in front of their TV & watch absolute garbage.It was a constant source of irritation to me to see well written,well produced & innovative shows continually cancelled never to be seen again.Meanwhile the endless supply of soap operas,reality dross,celebrity gossip tripe & minority sports continued without pause.
    If only,I thought…if only there were a channel specifically dedicated to the sort of stuff I enjoy watching,this problem would finally be over.
    Apparently not.Instead we get wrestling on a sci-fi channel! Added to that we get TV networks using a 1950s model for measuring ratings in a multimedia age.
    & you know what? Even the actual fanbase for this kind of TV doesn’t help itself.The has been loads of griping over the past 2 years about the direction of SGU,the plotting,the focus etc…yes,sure I’ve had complaints myself but never enough to stop watching.It was slated for 5 seasons so thats how long I decided to watch for! Personally I’ve been rewarded,SGU became compelling in Season 2.Season 1 was mostly establishing character & developing plotlines,I kind of expected as much.There were plots & subplots I didn’t like but by & large those have been dumped anyway & the overarching story has come into play more & more as time has gone by.I for one was impressed in the end & looking forward to seeing it through.
    No chance of that now.
    In the end we can be our own worst enemies with our impatience & when you couple that with the deck being stacked against inventive speculative fiction from the off the chances of ever getting to see something we enjoy for an extended period of time become minimal.
    I wonder sometimes,how many seasons would SG-1 have lasted if it had started say 2 years ago? I somehow doubt we’d be looking at a 10 year run.I think the days of any sci-fi/fantasy drama lasting that long are over forever.But to be honest i’d settle for 4 or 5 anyway at this point!

  8. jwillis84
    May 10, 2011 at 8:48 pm |

    That was a fine conclusion to SGU. I think it could easily be wrapped up with a single actor, David Blue could reprise his role wondering the ship.. perhaps actually interacting with Destiny in a way that it could not with the rest of the crew.. we know it has a personality of its own, and its very old.

    I like happy endings, so I’d like to think either the statis chamber can save him, but perhaps not revive him without additional repairs. And maybe in the meantime he does find the cure for ALS in the database.. he said search queries could be difficult.

    Rush had visitations of his own when he was alone, perhaps Destiny would unleash, or release ghosts of its own to help Eli.

    And something has been bothering me for a long time about the Sarcophagus in early SG1.. where did that technology originate.. with the Ancients or the Gould? Perhaps its a natural extension of the stasis pods, while your in downtime.. perhaps they make medical repairs.. flash blindness cured, kidneys regenerated.. with all the Alcor stuff.. seems really likely. ALS however not so much as thats genetic and not damage, though after its emerged perhaps the pods could help.. but I prefer Eli find the answer where Yusak? said it was.. a parting gift from their descendents.

    Its not just the end for SGU for a while.. for me it feels like its the end for SyFy as well.

    I know I won’t be back. Not to kick sand at the other series.. but they were an assemble.. that’s broken now.. SyFy has doomed itself.

    Hope it re-emerges as a NetFlix streaming channel someday.. ironic in thats how SciFi got its start.. re-running classics.. and moved on.

    Time to turn out the lights.

  9. Snipe
    May 10, 2011 at 8:54 pm |

    Well I have to say that SyFy really crewed the pooch. SGU is the best show on TV, and I am even speaking about any of the BIG network crap. I am glad to see that Sanctuary is dieing as SGU did when they moved it. BUT the one thing I did notice while watching the finale, was it said SEASON FINALE not SERIES FINALE so I am beginning to wonder if SyFy might pull at 3rd season out of the Magic hat for us. Only time will tell.

  10. tkc74
    May 10, 2011 at 9:09 pm |

    Good bye to another great SiFi show. Loved SGU and all of the other Stargate series. The last 3 episodes of SGU were watched on Zune through my XBOX. SyFy is a dead channel to me and not worth the extra money spent to keep cable. So Good bye SyFy Good bye cable and hello Internet TV. Hope to see SGU movies out soon and maybe I’ll be able to buy them from ZUNE or even on DVD.

  11. Jim
    May 10, 2011 at 9:10 pm |

    @Browncoat1984 Sorry man,but what viewers?
    1,134 mill viewers is not even close to enough for a show like SGU to stay on air.It had that kind of numbers,between 900 thousand and 1,1-1,15 mill the entire time sice the end of season one.It had to have had around 2 mil.to stay on the air.And had SGU stayed on Friday it would have had that sort of numbers by now.
    I don’t watch Castle and all that,but I simply cannot watch live tv on Monday,or Tuesday for that matter and I know many other ppl with the same problem.Even if I have time,I’ve better things to do than to sit in front of tv in the evenings on those days.And ppl who do want to watch tv then are obviously thr ones who choose something else.That is obvious and should’ve been accounted for by the network.

    And Sanctuary is a perfect example of the same thing,same profile of viewers,only it has even far less appeal than SGU.SGU lost 200 000 viewers by that move and over a couple of weeks,Sanctuary lost almost a million!! If that isn’t telling..that’s why Darren was so right in his letter!

  12. jhowell66
    May 10, 2011 at 9:30 pm |

    I am sad to see SGU end, as I was really enjoying the series and have watched since the beginning. I don’t understand how these network guys make decisions on what shows stay and which ones get cancelled, but I think they were really on a role as the last few episodes of SGU were the best ever. Everytime I really enjoy a series they pull the plug – like Star Trek Enterprise, Lost, Gilligan’s Island, etc. It seems like the best series always get cut to make room for a bunch of crap like Dancing with the Stars or some stupid reality show. Who knows what’s going to happen with V and Fringe, they will probably cut those out at some point. I always DVR this stuff (Direct TV HD-DVR) and watch on my own schedule, so I am not sure if people like me get counted in the numbers or not. I am hopeful that someone somehow may revive SGU in the future but I’m not holding my breath. And it’s just a matter of time before these networks all start losing their funding due to people that will soon start pulling the plug on big cable and satellite in favor of Internet streaming at a lower cost, perhaps charing on a per-show or per-episode cost. No good content with paying viewers will be mean the end of those networks that can’t ante up. I would pay for SGU, V, Fringe, and those type of shows that I enjoy but will not pay for wrestling – but perhaps there are others that will. Sorry for the ranting, but I’m done. Goodnight SGU.

  13. Jimbo636
    May 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm |

    Did anyone else notice that the “Now Watching” overlay during the finale stated “season finale” not “series finale”? Hmmm… Something to think about.

  14. studiodummies
    May 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm |

    I noticed that too during the show – “season finale” which made me say hmmmm…..

  15. stargatefan1958
    May 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm |

    please put sanctuary back on friday nights

  16. krannok
    May 11, 2011 at 12:00 am |

    First of all, Browncoat;

    SyFy belongs to NBC Universal. They have a minimum audience level to meet, or the show gets cancelled. It’s simple numbers., and 1.14 million is nearly three million below their “happy” threshold. Even SG-1 would be cancelled by NBC (hang on, it was!). Also, all those direct viewing websites and the like were demanded by fans, not the networks. All television is based on the advertising space you can sell, so any method of viewing which cuts out advertising reduces their profits.

    The summer shows like Eureka get much smaller audiences than the fall shows, but the cost to produce is much lower, so they remain financial despite the low audience numbers. If Universe were a summer show, there would be half the cast, and Destiny would be a cardboard cut-out. Pretty show = expensive to make. Expensive to make = need four million viewers. SyFy = money making venture, NOT public service for nerds.

    Secondly, jWillis;

    The Go’a’uld sarcophagus technology was developed by a long-dead Go’a’uld named Tel’chak. He pretended to be a mayan rain-god. He found an Ancient device (wierd cubic thingy which glowed) that healed people, but it was too powerful (heals well, with slight monsterism). He used it to make the first sarcophagus. See SG-1 season 7 episode 11-12 (Evolution Parts 1-2)

    Yes, I’m a huge nerd myself.

    For all those who haven’t yet realised;

    SciFi was sold to NBC Universal two years ago. They decided to re-brand SciFi into SyFy, and at the same time, move away from a focus on science fiction and fantasy. SyFy is now a channel of Imagination (whatever that means, but it don’t mean scifi). WWE Smackdown was moved to SySy in order to get wrestling fans to watch this channel, and they are hoping the wrestling fans will stay to watch whatever else they have on. Wrestling fans do not watch scifi, so there will be less and less scifi on SyFy.

    I’m serious. Look on NBC Universals website, and read interviews with Dave Howe the manager of the channel.

    Many people complained constantly about Hinman, but at least she watched the genre. Howe came up through things like Fear Factor. Nuff said.

    Finally, a little history;

    Star Trek was nearly cancelled after only 10 episodes back in ’66. Lucille Ball of I Love Lucy was a fan, and on the board at Paramount, so she pushed. She had a lot of clout back then, and it stayed on the air.

    Next Gen again was nearly axed, but an exec (cant remember who) was a fan, and demanded that it stay on.

    SG-1 was axed, and rescued at the last second by SciFi back in 2002.

    Basically, this stuff has never been financial at first. The genre of epic science fiction serials does not make money until the video (or dvd) comes out. Unfortunately, video piracy has recently become an epidemic. DVD sales do not even come close to justifying the creation of an expensive series.

    Did you download the show, or buy the DVDs? Did you watch the show on television, or did you download the episode froma torrent site? Stop complaining about damage you yourself wrought.

    Rant done, I’m going now.

  17. Browncoat1984
    May 11, 2011 at 1:08 am |

    Its just frustrating. I make the effort to watch my favorites like SGU and Fringe live because they struggle in ratings yet I feel my efforts are in vain because even when I do support my favorites they get canceled (okay, Fringe was renewed, thanks FOX!!!! I never thought I’d support FOX over Sci-Fi when it comes to sci-fi but for once I am very happy with them, and they even have two more SF shows starting next season that look like they might be more interesting than anything SyFy has starting up).

    I generally just DVR most every show except for a select few that I really want to support, SGU and Fringe are two of them. But Mondays is a BAD night because our DVR gets worked over-time. At 7:00 we record Sanctuary and Chuck, my mom watched House at 7 and at 9 we watch Castle. At least Heroes isn’t on anymore to add another conflict and add SGU to that mix makes Mondays a busy night (House has no relation to the other series whatsoever but it happens to be a popular show and my mom loves it).

    Sanctuary, Eureka and Warehouse 13, as I keep on saying, will be the LAST shows I watch on SyFy until they prove that they can produce something worthwhile and keep it around.

  18. lonewanderer01
    May 11, 2011 at 1:16 am |

    Here’s a bold suggestion. Make a new stargate series! It could be called Stargate: Legends, or Stargate: Legacies, or anything really. And the point of the show would be to finish all the stories. It would finish SGU, Atlantis, and post SG1. Each week I could jump from a story in the Pegasus galaxy then to the Milky Way and then again to Destiny. I feel this way many old fans would come back and new fans could be attracted depending on how it is presented. As a franchise there is still a lot of story to be told and there is still money/ratings to be earned. The problems I see is that a lot of props would have to be remade and it might be hard to convince the network of the show’s viability when compared to SGU’s ratings. However, I’m just a fan. I need to know how it ends!!!

  19. The Admiral
    The Admiral
    May 11, 2011 at 1:29 am |

    @Browncoat1984, your live watching efforts really are in vein because unless you have a Nielsen box hooked up to your TV, whether or not you watch it live is moot because Nielsen technically decides if you’ve watched or not.

  20. Glucharina
    May 11, 2011 at 2:49 am |

    Television is dying. People don’t want to watch TV, because they can watch whatever they want in the Internet. Without commercials, but most important – without schedule. That’s all. The more far we go, the more average TV viewer intelligence will drop, because smart people will leave.

  21. ace_love
    May 11, 2011 at 3:42 am |

    I couldnt even bare watching Sanctuary this time round, I watched The Event then SGU, put Sanctuary on and felt way too depressed..

    I don’t even want shows with fillers, full stories within 40 mins.. I want big ass stories that take weeks to unfold! (with the exception of Fringe)

    SG:U has changed the way I watch my shows, I’ve grew up, I want in-depth storylines, SG:U delivered on the biggest scale (even though I didn’t like the first 10-12 eps)

    I still can’t get ever thats its finished

  22. Imperious
    May 11, 2011 at 4:04 am |

    @Snipe, I would love to think You could be right.
    Epilogue was so good I was having dreams all night about SGU (got in my head big time). That episode reminded me of TNG’s “The Inner Light”, left a similar impression.
    SGU is enormously better than “V” or “The Event” and deserves to be properly finished.

    I really hope there are some serious questions being asked at the management of SyFy about how they could stuff so many shows up, all to save stupid Wrestling which could easily be on a Sat or Sunday night.
    It’s as though someone has taken control that doesn’t understand Science Fiction at all. SciFi has always been a niche tv product, it has to be marketed at the right time, right place. “Location, Location, Location”.

    If SyFy were to admit they have stuffed up and order a proper conclusion to SGU, then I will mostly forgive them, but only if they do something to avoid this situation again.

  23. katikatnik
    May 11, 2011 at 4:47 am |

    Well, SGU’s series finale couldn’t beat Being Human’s season finale. In the same slot, with the same competition. So, there obviously are shows on SyFy that can do well with full competition on Monday.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am sad that the SG franchise is dead, but honestly, in this case it’s pretty much on the heads of the writers who took too long to develop the story in S1 which cost them half the viewership within 10 episodes. If S1 was as good as S2 was – from what I heard – I think we would be telling a different story here. But the writers obviously didn’t learn anything from shows like Defying Gravity…

  24. Arkronis
    May 11, 2011 at 5:18 am |

    I have to ask – and forgive me if this seems nieve… But what exactly would it take to get this show back on air. What could we do (those that want it back) as a collective to try and turn this around – not necessarially with SyFy channel (their decisions on a number of shows over the last 3 years have been questionable at best!)…

    Facebook group, letters to the network (SyFy) all being well and good – but surely there is something else? Something more impacting??

    At rather ‘we’ not sit on our laurels reminicing of the show – and perhaps put something in to action sooner and with more impact?!

  25. Pecisk
    May 11, 2011 at 6:17 am |

    katikatnik: I would like to point out that SGU is serialised sci-fi drama and Being Human is fantasy “vampires are cool now” weekly show. This is huge difference. Also Stargate established viewership were watching it on fridays. On mondays about third of them DVRed it. Also BH received heavy advertising while SGU in second season got close to null. New time (changed three times!), heavy competition (in fall it’s very heavy). Sorry, but they are not comparable.

  26. katikatnik
    May 11, 2011 at 6:47 am |

    @Pecisk: SGU started in a cushioned slot with a big budget, a promotion equal to a Hollywood blockbuster and with an in-built audience. And the biggest drop happened between 101 and 110.

    Being Human is pretty serialized too and it had to find its place in winter on a busy night and as a heavily female skewing show going against DWTS, THE female driven reality show out there. And yet, many more people bothered to show up for its season finale than for the SGU S1 finale on Friday or its series finale in BH’s time slot.

    It just proves that when people want to watch a show live, they do. SyFy doesn’t care about how popular SGU is online. They do care that people showed up for BH live.

    I’m not saying that the time slot changes didn’t hurt SGU, of course they did – but see, for example, White Collar on USA: changed time slot 3 times too and it didn’t hurt the show one bit – but, as I pointed above, the biggest drop happened between 101 and 110, from 2.4 mil. to 1.4, from 1.0 demo to 0.5 demo. People gave it a try, people didn’t like what they saw, people took BW’s advice to heart and moved on – and no, not to DVR. Yes, SGU is a serialized show – but its writers should’ve taken that into consideration before they decided to move snail pace slow during S1.0.

  27. Hitcher
    May 11, 2011 at 7:22 am |

    Why have we not heard from the man who was behind all of SGU? Did he just give up or is doing things behind the screens?

  28. xandder
    May 11, 2011 at 7:45 am |

    I love it when people who dont watch the show feel qualified to comment, ermm, you aren’t! move along now, you’re ‘arguments’ are always the same tired ****, it got boring after the first 10 episodes, give it up already!

  29. SGU Online
    SGU Online
    May 11, 2011 at 8:15 am |

    I think comparing to SG1 and SGA the intro in SGU is not that good. Face it … how many times you watched the SGA or SG1 episode intro

    well The least episode ends… in fact…it does not seem to end anything…It leaves a tail to season 3???

  30. kevymus
    May 11, 2011 at 11:57 am |

    Has anyone been watching the last several episodes of sanctuary. Thye have not been very good at all and way to hookie. lets get rid of the girfriend story lines and get back to seeing more action and why has Helen Magnus not been on it much right now. Putting it on Mondays is going to kill sanctuary just like they killed SGU!!! :>{

  31. ptesone
    May 11, 2011 at 12:14 pm |

    Is better to forget SGU, this is a sad finally for amazing franchise.

  32. knowles2
    May 11, 2011 at 12:30 pm |

    Arkronis | May 11 @ 5:18 am

    Find a multi billionaire that loves stargate and willing to fund a 3rd series or buy the Franchise of MGM and produce a 3rd season.

  33. Stargate YouKneeVerse
    Stargate YouKneeVerse
    May 11, 2011 at 12:44 pm |

    SGU will be back in 3 years after everyone wakes up from their long pod sleepover with a skeletonzized Eli sitting in the Captains chair on the bridge.

  34. Stargate YouKneeVerse
    Stargate YouKneeVerse
    May 11, 2011 at 12:47 pm |

    If they ever restarted SGU would have them send 90% of the current cast home to Earth and bring a few members from SG-1 and a few from Atlantis on board to lighten things up. It might draw back some of the original fans of those 2 shows. Its not going to happen, but its nice to think that in a parallel universe it did.

  35. mythos
    May 11, 2011 at 2:24 pm |

    I’m amazed at the misinformation that abounds. The lackluster ratings in no way proves that the audience is there. The fact is, we don’t know if the Nielsen Ratings helps or hurts the shows. No one knows a million people who watch and if they could measure everyone who watches, just as with any other show, the number could turn out to be smaller.

    NBC Universal did not acquire Sci-Fi 2 years ago and change it’s name to Syfy in the process. Sci-Fi came under NBC Universal when Vivendi Universal sold a majority stake to GE in 2003. In 2004 the NBC Universal Television division came into being and has been the driving force since then.

    If you’re talking about Nielsen ratings, if you do not have a Nielsen box, you watching the show live doesn’t help it. I’m not saying not to watch it live, just that it doesn’t matter if you do. Only those with Nielsen boxes are counted in the ratings. Otherwise you’re just grouped in with the tens of thousands of other people that each Nielsen box represents.

    SGU is gone. There is nothing that can be done to bring it back at this point. The production crew, cast and everyone else has been let go and the stages have been set to be dismantled. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it couldn’t start up again at some point, but since even the show runner is gone, it would require they at least pick a new show runner first.

    Eureka gets better ratings than any Stargate show has. Not saying the show itself is better but it gets better ratings. And it should as it’s obviously not as niche and can more easily appeal to a larger audience.

    If you’re watching any Stargate show online instead of on tv, you are part of the problem. This is not how tv networks who fund the costs of development of tv shows make money. I’m not saying it will never happen, but it is not how it happens right now. So if you wonder why no one cares how popular Stargate torrents are, it’s because they don’t matter to the success of the show. They can’t pay the cast and crew in popularity points.

    If you are not a Nielsen family member and want to matter to the people who decide Stargate’s future, buy the dvd’s, blu-ray’s, books and anything else out there with the name on it that you can find. Money talks.

  36. Duneknight
    May 11, 2011 at 2:39 pm |

    its not syfy’s fault really. its no one’s fault. every show is a gamble and SGU wasnt appealing to the majority. maybe its because of prejudice against a “light” franchise that was trying to take itself too seriously or the stories/characters just didnt grab viewers. i think one of the main problems was how mundane it was in the first 10 episodes. Who knows, ive been trying to figure it out ever since season 1 but i cant put my finger on why it couldnt pull viewers. So i dont blame syfy, i wont be cheering them but it would be unfair to place the blame on them. SGU on any other network wouldve performed the same way. You can blame mgm however for not making the movies, they decided against it on their own.

  37. mistergroenevingers
    May 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm |

    You’re contradicting yourself mate. First you preach about Nielsen ratings and how it doesn’t matter if you watch the show live when you don’t have the box. Then later on you tell people who watch online or download are a problem. There’s no problem there because they don’t have the Nielsen box.

  38. mythos
    May 11, 2011 at 3:58 pm |

    @mistergroenevingers – It wasn’t a contradiction. Nielsen doesn’t control worldwide ratings. And people who are downloading for free also aren’t buying the shows on dvd/blu-ray.

  39. mistergroenevingers
    May 11, 2011 at 4:27 pm |

    Just because I download the show doesn’t mean I won’t buy the DVDs. Am I supposed to wait for a year until the discs are in the shop so I can finally watch the show? I want to see a new episode as soon as I can because I’m a fan. And I have online friends who are fans and I like to discuss the latest episodes with those friends.

  40. OwenK
    May 11, 2011 at 6:45 pm |

    Perhaps it’s time to move to a new ratings measurement system. Torrent downloads get a big viewership, including to foreign countries (I’m in the UK for example so can’t watch SGU unless I download it). Start making official torrents, with commercials mixed in, and sell the advertising space. All you’d need to ensure a pretty good “market share” versus pirate torrents would be a nice fast seed server & by making it clear that watching the ads helps to support the show, you’d get a decent chunk of viewers there too.

  41. dominikbm
    May 11, 2011 at 9:02 pm |

    Ok, where is the combined “save the Stargate franchise campaign”? I think this should be at a franchise level. And I still don’t get why one of MGM’s biggest franchises (next to James Bond) gets shut down like this, when there is such a large worldwide fanbase. Or am I wrong and it’s just a few loud individuals? I wouldn’t mind seeing some stats on hits for this site, and if a campaign is mounted to see what sort of numbers would support it.

    And yep, I’m still angry at the franchise shut-down!

  42. Cube
    May 11, 2011 at 10:57 pm |

    I dont like to watch Sanctuary on mondays I have stuff to do Friday is part of the weekend I have nothing to do the next day it is a better time to watch TV.

    Also I have missed so many episodes I cant get back into it.

    And syfy gave me almost no warning it had move to monday anyway.

  43. frontiers1
    May 12, 2011 at 11:23 am |

    like to say no more stargate stinks. I have been a fan since the original movie. Although i expected more from sgu out of the gate, no pun intended, it turned out to be a decent show. Being a fan of the franchise, i gave it a chance and by the finale, i feel cheated. It is what it is. One day the franchise will start again. The amount of fans it has will ensure that. Maybe sgu or sga or maybe sg1 will get some closure…maybe. Sgu could be finished off in one more season…sure…but it never will. My idea of where the show was going may have resulted in ascention for some of the crew. The rest would end up getting home. The one episode where the shuttle returns brand new…well i believe that would eventually happen to Destiny as well. The ship would never have made it to where it was going unless that was to happen. As far as the pods fixing the crew, well TJ wouldn’t start having effects for about 5 years if i remember correctly. That 5 years would have been beyond the run of the show if it made that far. It was put into the show for drama. Same with Park’s blindness. If the show was to be about the eventual ascention of most or all of the crew, their hardships during the course would only have strengthened them to that end. You must learn first before gaining true knowledge. Plus as many times as it is mentioned in the show that ‘the ship is old’…that makes me think yes the ship will be fixed by the same ‘aliens’ or what-have-ya that fixed the shuttle. As far as what happens to Eli..the skeletal Eli after the crew wakes up is pretty funny…but most likely be a frozen husk if he didn’t fix the pod. Sad to see a show end now that it was getting good. I also blame the slow progress of season 1, although i still think darkness and light are what brought me back into the show, only to fizzle until the midseason finale. Again, it is what it is. Sad to see the show end. Maybe with all positive comments going now it may help. Unfortunately all the bad comments from day one didn’t help matters. Also agree the day and time changes didn’t help the show. As far as sanctuary, that show utterly stinks. Never liked it…never will. Even to watch it for A T didn’t sway me to. B H same thing. Horrible show. i’m done with syfy channel anyway. worst channel on cable. atleast if you watch a cooking channel, you get cooking shows. wrestling on syfy is ridiculous. leave it on usa or some other channel. I also believe adding ships into the franchise killed it. When Prometheus first came into the show, i thought star trek? atleast it was a piece of junk and frequently referred to as that. when they blew it up, i rewound it 50 times and laughed every time. The 304’s were pretty cool looking and probably one of the best designs the show had but still, it is stargate. When there were no ships the show was great. Out numbered out classed by the enemy made the show what it was. then sgu comes and the whole show they are on a ship…growing trend? sure there was a gate on board. how many times did they actually go through the gate on that show compared to sg1 and sga? sgu used the gate less and less it seemed. but being a fan, i watched. maybe if there is a 4th show to come, they will learn from past mistakes and continue to entertain us.

  44. mythos
    May 12, 2011 at 11:34 am |

    @mistergroenevingers – Most who download don’t buy the dvd’s. I’m sure some do, but not enough to matter. Compare any of the Stargate discs sales to their download stats..the number of conversions are pretty small. The point I was making is that torrent downloads don’t matter because they don’t pay the bills. So if millions are downloading it for free and only thousands are later buying it…see the problem?

  45. myts
    May 12, 2011 at 11:55 am |

    I believe the budget for a movie is 6-8 million. If say a third party to syfi e.g. gateworld, was to open an account to accept donations for say each seperate show like sg-1, atlantis and sgu, and show the audience of how much money is being accumulated with each donation, then in theory the fans should be able to keep this franchise alive. The kicker being that with the fans being the major donors, the money made from dvd or online episode sales could be used to fund a second and a third movie etc etc. Seems logical, and it may actually show the network that we care about what we want to watch.

  46. worgel
    May 12, 2011 at 10:30 pm |

    What an awesome show on every level. Just watched Season/Series finale, I think that the episode will leave fans thinking for years. I guess I’ll have to finish the story line in my dreams. The production value is gonna be great. Well okay maybe not that great but still better than most fan films.

    Have to agree with many fans on this site, SGU is definitely THE best show on TV …or at least WAS the best show on tv. Come on MGM give the fans just one movie to finish it off properly. I know you want to.
    Will buy season 2 as soon as its released. Goodbye SGU, hello SG reruns.

  47. etirvan
    May 14, 2011 at 6:58 pm |

    @ krannok

    You are wrong on one count. SciFi wasn’t sold to NBC Universal 2 years ago. SciFi has been a part of NBC Universal since 2003, when Universal Studios’ parent company Vivendi merged with NBC’s parent company General Electric. SciFi has been a part of NBC Universal ever since. That’s 8 years, NOT 2. This is a documented fact.

  48. etirvan
    May 14, 2011 at 7:13 pm |

    @ Mythos

    That’s not technically true. You CANNOT possibly back up the statement, “Most who download don’t buy the DVD’s,” because it is a flat out false statement. On the contrary, the reverse is true. Most who download DO, in fact, buy the DVD’s.

  49. mythos
    May 16, 2011 at 3:30 pm |

    @etirvan – If you were right, Stargate would be making billions of dollars every year. I CAN back up my statement by the fact that it doesn’t. It does phenomenally well in downloads but the dvd sales are flat. Again, compare the download statistics to the dvd sales. The numbers speak for themselves.

  50. franks2732
    May 17, 2011 at 12:13 am |

    Good Riddance! they got rid of the worst show in the stargate franchise It was a bomb, boring, poorly written, slow. On top of that it is great payback for the way they cancelled Atlantis. This show was so bad it threatened the franchise itself. Nothing but a bomb from the first episode to the… last Good riddance. The management cancelled a popular show on the way up and replaced it with universe, they should be sacked the same way they sacked the cast of Atlantis

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