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Davey1983
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This piece of news has actually made me more excited for season 2 (and somewhat the second half of season 1).
Now I am curious– how will he come into conflict with Rush? Will some people be able to get to Destiny or will the stones be involved? Another possibility is that he was already on the Icarus base during the initial attack. I guess I will have to watch the second half of season 1 and season 2 to find out.

Imitation Tofu
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Based on keywords in the blurb, “all ethnicities”, and previous hiring patterns by this group, I’ve already placed my bet.

EvilSpaceAlien
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This does sound interesting. I’m hoping that he’ll be played by Carl Lumbly. I would be great for the part. I loved him in Alias, Battlestar Galactica, and Chuck.

Uncle Al
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Oh great, it is going to take 6-7 episodes to play out what should really take 1-2 episodes to do. Where are the new aliens at? We could not come up with anything new so we are recycling more stuff from the more popular SG1. Ugg…

Personbot
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Lucian Alliance? Really? They’re off in another galaxy and they’re going to recycle an enemy who is back in the Milky Way galaxy?
Another thrilling stone based story? Or did he come aboard the Destiny with everyone else during the Icarus attack and the crew is so incompetent they’ve failed to notice all this time?
Why couldn’t they just keep the Lucian Alliance for the story line of an SG1 movie?

Mentat
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LOL why don’t they just use the same villain from season 1 — the DP?

Greenfire32
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*Sigh* That makes NO sense at all. First off, we are shown ON SCREEN that the destiny is AT LEAST 9 GALAXIES away from the Milky Way. Every time the starmap hits another galaxy it makes a *tick* noise. From this, I can estimate that the destiny is somewhere between 20 and 40 (the ticking noise goes to fast to accurately count) GALAXIES-including the empty void of darkspace in between-from the Milky Way. So how the hell does the Lucian Alliance get this far out? Did they blow up a star and make a jump to hyperspace just before getting… Read more »

EvilSpaceAlien
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Here’s an idea. Wait for the episode and see how it plays out instead of judging it prematurely. For all we know, it could be handled in a really great way.

Scott Watson
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The article said nothing about the Lucian Alliance becoming the main enemy, to me it sounds like a recurring character ala Acastus Kolya kind of villain.

There is still the question of how the Lucian Alliance gained the intel about the Icarus base, its possible that there was a spy on the base who came through on the Destiny and has been biding his time fingering out what to do next (Either that or the communication stones are involved).

Scott Watson
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“Where are the new aliens at?”

Season 1 episode 10: ‘Space’

Zach236
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Does Mallozzi not keep raving about the prospect of new alien life forms and I believe he puts heavy emphasis on non english speaking and not human aliens. I’m not saying this is a bad idea yet anyway. But this move certainly does seem to be a head scratcher. Apparently there just is not much intelligent life beyond the Pegasus and Milky Way other than man eating bug creatures (The Scourge) and really small bugs (The Defiant One), (The Prodigy), or weird floating particles/energy (Home: SGA). Jury is out on how intelligent either of those species were. Even still I… Read more »

Scott Watson
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Woops I meant episode 11 in my last post.

“Still awaiting the bad guy to be revealed in the last three episodes of season 1”

Think the last 3 episodes of the season are about the Lucian Alliance, the description of ‘Subversion’ gives me that impression.

But like I said in my last post we are going to see aliens in the very next episode which has been confirmed by the writers. Most likely the same ones who left the Destiny at the end of ‘Air Part 3’ and have a crashed ship on the planet Rush is currently on.

Kosh
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I can’t be bothered to re-watch any SGU, but if I remember correctly they never identified with 100% certainty who attacked the Icarus base. So, if he hasn’t been a long-time spy in one of Earth’s most important and secret bases (ha), then he must have came from one of the attacking Ha’taks… but now I don’t know which plot line is more weak, because if that is going to be the case then surely someone would have noticed ‘the new guy’ by now.. 6-7 episodes, just about half of the entire season, tells me this is going to be… Read more »

Mythos
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Wow. The Lucian Alliance? Really? With SG1 and SGA, when on hiatus, I looked forward to their return. With SGU, I don’t know if I’ll even realize when it’s back. And now they’re going to pull in one of the weakest elements from the prior Stargate shows? It’s just sad.

Nirenit
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If you’ve looked at Season 1 spoilers, you know that the Lucian Alliance used Goauld technology to brainwash one of the Icarus Base crew which is how they found out about it…and some time around episode 18/19, they manage to steal the long range communicator from Earth which is how they take over the Destiny during the finale…

EverybodyhatesBa.al
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Best spoiler…ever!

Uncle Al
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“Season 1 episode 10: ‘Space’/Woops I meant episode 11 in my last post.”

Me and the wife never made it that far with SGU. I will read some of the articles here to see if there are any improvements for season 2. Or is that season 2.0 & 2.5? Sadly, this does not look like any positive changes from TPTB to make amends with the fan-base they have alienated.

Ssx001
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Woo hoo! Now we are talking classic Stargate!

Thanks heaps Mr Wright!

Bettsybungle
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Its sad that this series had so much potential (and still can, I havent given up hope) but has to rely on delving into the past again. Who really thinks the Lucian Alliance are rating winners. Come on Stargate Universe!!! New universe!! New Cast!! blank canvas !!! Make the most of that ! Maybe get some new writers who arent mired in Stargate mythology and can utilize fresh ideas around our beloved stargate system !!

Imitation Tofu
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It’s safer and less challenging to reuse bad guys instead of creating new ones. Next they’ll bring in the replicators.

Emily
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LUCIAN ALLIANCE?!? you kidding me! They have got to be the weakest enemy of SG1 that appeared for more than one episode.

Save Scifi
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-Folks they are throwing a bone to the long time viewers, no waqy to know if it has any meat on it but something is better than nothing. As slow and boring as SGU has been for the most part so far this is good news and as much as I have loved the franchise for now nearly sixteen years mye their is HOPE after all. Granted the story line will pickup SOME. I never required a bad guy of the week but the bad guys did allow a story line to be developed and somethime so exploration of the… Read more »

Meo3000
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While at it, why not recycle the Tau’ri story and have a advanced, intelligent lifeform, that have spread to many worlds after “cracking” the gate network. Even if humanoid, i would rather have those than the Lucian Alliance. Space thugs… seriously?

Morrolan
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I’m interested to see where they go with this. While, I don’t see 10 seasons of Universe, there is certainly enough potential for 3-5 seasons. Is it just me, or are the characters interesting enough that I haven’t cared about the lack of aliens? The sense of isolation has been drafted wonderfully by the production team.

Hyncharas
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I take it newcomers can’t simply audition for this!?

Evilslayer
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@ Personbot

The point of spies is that no one realise that he/she IS a spy.

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BurningIce
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The Lucian Alliance. Good lord they were a boring enemy; the most boring part of SG-1 S09-S10.

Yeah yeah, I suppose I should reserve judgement until I see the episodes with this character, ASSUMING I’M STILL WATCHING after the end of season 1.

…. But Lucian Alliance? Are TPTB afraid that an non-humanoid alien enemy is too much for viewers to get their head around?

Siba
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dan payne! This screams for Dan Payne! Or wait…how about Peter DeLuise! That would be a great part for him! Or even BamBam…pleaaaaase, Peter, Dan or BamBam!!!

Nikst
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Hey guys, do you miss Joe Flanigan and Chris Judge? They made a little sketch with Jace from IGN. Its cut up in a few segments of this episode. Laura Vandervoort from V is also in it. Check it out, Joes stuff is actually pretty funny =)) Link: http://video.ign.com/dor/articles/1062228/jace-hall-show/videos/jacehall_prt_ep3_21210.html

Cupermacleod
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Universe haters, you are entitled to your opinions, but at least be consistent! You don’t think Universe feels like the old Stargate you know and love, but the idea that elements from earlier shows will be incorporated is met with immediate derision. The funny thing is, you claim it’s all derivative and unimaginative when its done on Universe, yet you cry and cry about wanting Atlantis back. What did Atlantis do? They brought the Goa’uld in before the end of the 2nd season, they recycled the replicators (which Imitation Tofu obviously must have hated, if his comments are to be… Read more »

Katikatnik
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Yes, I hate SGU and I’m not afraid to admit it *shrugs* Whatever floats your boat. But even Cinemaspy pointed out how this went against everything that TPTB had promised – no English-speaking aliens, anyone? – and the guy from Cinemaspy used to be a huge supporter of the show from the get-go. TPTB wanted to take the franchise in a completely new direction – I hate it but some people obviously like it, so whatever. But they wiped the slate clean, started a new show and what do they do? Recycle yet another SG-1 idea, for Pete’s sake! If… Read more »

Evilslayer
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So… You’d rather they just invent some new, never-before-seen aliens for the attack on the Icarus Base and then completely forget about them? Does that sound like a better story idea?

Scott Watson
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@cupermacleod well said I seriously could have typed that. “no English-speaking aliens, anyone?” Have people been reading my last 2 comment’s on this article? I will mention it again: ‘we are going to see aliens in the very next episode which has been confirmed by the writers. Most likely the same ones who left the Destiny at the end of ‘Air Part 3′ and have a crashed ship on the planet Rush is currently on’ “TPTB wanted to take the franchise in a completely new direction” They never said it was a ‘completely’ new direction, just different than what we… Read more »

Kanetsidohi
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Nikst, that video was so funny! and it was a pleasure to see CJ, and JF doing that part together. Thanks!

Katikatnik
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@Evilslayer: “You’d rather they just invent some new, never-before-seen aliens for the attack on the Icarus Base and then completely forget about them?” Why should we forget them? If they were new, never-before-seen, they could actually have the technology to follow Destiny. Why should they be dropped because they were new, never-before-seen? Doesn’t make any sense, that comment. @Tanith: Adding “non-English speaking aliens” doesn’t cancel out the fact that they are using “English speaking aliens” even though they said they wouldn’t do it. Adding the alien race in “Daedalus Variations” didn’t change the fact that TPTB recycled half the alien… Read more »

Scott Watson
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“Do they change the fact that human, English-speaking aliens are the big badies of SGU?”

Where does it say that the Lucian Alliance are going to be the main bad guys for SGU? I believe the title says ‘recurring villain’.

Katikatnik
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@Tanith: Are there any other villains? Mentioned, spoiled, suggested, anything at all? And I mean someone who actually is labeled as “villain”? The new alien race is officially labeled as “not villains but not allies either”, or something like that, IIRC. So yeah, the Lucian Alliance is the only real villain – besides the backstabbing that’s going on regular basis anywhere near this crew, obviously – on the show so far. And from the spoilers that I read, someone who attacks you, takes you hostage, borders your ship in an over-reaching arc in S1 and comes back for more in… Read more »

Uncle Al
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Hey maybe this Lucian Alliance thing could be good. The LA are known for seizing control of ships. Maybe they will seize control of the Destiny and jettison all of the dead weight and drama overboard. The series could be about the quest of the Lucian Alliance. There may still be hope for SGU after all!

Imitation Tofu
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“… for virtually the whole run of the show, not to mention bringing Samantha Carter and Woolsey in from SG-1. Don’t forget that McKay was introduced on SG-1 a couple of years before Atlantis launched. Was it terrible when Teal’c or O’Neill or Hammond or Walter or Dr. Lee or anyone else appeared on Atlantis?”

Yes it was lazy writing on Atlantis and it’s lazy writing here. It’s the same writers so I’m not surprised that they still couldn’t think up another villain. Bad choice. I haven’t seen a single fan who was clamoring to see more of the Alliance.

Flmatthew
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Maybe we can set off another bomb at the end of “LOST” and then Ben can become the evil guy on SGU. His people can be know as, “The Others” and they can speak english because none of us want to read sub-titles. C’mon, we know every being doesn’t speak english but do you want to read the show every week? I don’t…. Haters 10 and those who like the show, 1!

Zach236
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The reason it would seem to me that most of the people ( including me) who are against this show don’t care for it is because its been slow, uninteresting and about as close to polar opposite from SG1 and SGA as possible while still having a Stargate. Bottom line is the people who dislike the show might change their minds if anything of interest ever occurred on the show. And the people who love it will love it no matter what the hell happens. The issue with this Lucian Alliance thing is that it does not sound like it… Read more »

Master Bra'tac
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While I still believe SGU is beyond redemption, Jonathan Cake would make an excellent addition to the Stargate universe’s repertoire of actors.

Master Bra'tac
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While I still believe SGU is beyond redemption, Jonathan Cake would make an excellent addition to the Stargate universe’s repertoire of actors.

Mistergroenevingers
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I never liked the lucian alliance and I don’t believe I ever will. After having battled with formidable enemies like the Goauld+Jaffa, the replicators or the Ori, how the hell would some lucian alliance cause much trouble. I will watch the episodes with the lucian alliance in it with VERY low expectations so hopefully I won’t be disappointed too much. I agree with others who said the lucian alliance was the weakest element of Stargate ever. The Goauld were awesome, let’s bring them back instead.

Scott Watson
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To be fair the Lucian Alliance wernt really explored much on SG1, they never had a proper story arc.

“The Goauld were awesome, let’s bring them back instead.”

If that happend I would stop watching, wasent thrilled that they were seen on Atlantis. The Gou’ald were the main enemy for 8 seasons, they have had more than enough screen time.

Kingclothing
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I have loved the franchise for now nearly sixteen years.I looked forward to their return. With SGU, I don’t know if I’ll even realize when it’s back.

Gigitravels
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Nothing can save SGU, the whole foundation is rotten.

Based we can do for ourselves is let go, stop watching and move on with our lives, do things, watch shows that we actually ENJOY.

No more vying and hoping for scraps I say. “Maybe there will be a glimpse of the old Stargate after all..” forget it, we are better than that.

Leave this appalling show alone and make the best out of your days.

Nathan_w
Member

ABOUT TIME WHAT TOOK YOU PEOPLE SO LONG TO COME UP WITH A RE OCURING VILLIAN?

still not my first choice for villians you need an all new enermy

FormulaJRay
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I’m not sure why so many people are judging the story before it even airs. They don’t even know how the Lucian alliance character(s) are even going to be introduced yet, but some are already assuming it’s just going to be through the stones, or that the Lucian alliance won’t be able to travel the distance necessary to get to the Destiny. They judge the story based on what they think might happen. What if it doesn’t happen that way? Considering the Lucian alliance knew about the Icarus base, maybe they have some kind of intel on how to dial… Read more »