86 Responses

  1. Mrja84
    October 25, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    I for one didn’t expect the Destiny to be solar powered. Though it makes sense. That’s why I avoid the forums. I haven’t been to the forums until Atlantis was canceled & before that it was right before Atlantis’ first season.

    I did feel like the post-sex scene was a bit overdone for characters that really haven’t had a lot of experiences together. I also like Eli’s facial responses when he sees Scott and Chloe in the hallway as well as when she hugs him and leaves to see Scott.

  2. segaxgames
    October 25, 2009 at 8:29 pm |

    This episode was SOOOOOOOO predictable. I want Atlantis back! At least you didn’t know if the main characters were going to survive or not.

  3. mattcci
    October 25, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    Are the people who write these reviews MGM employees?

  4. Darren
    October 25, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    @mattcci: No, and I find the insinuation insulting.

    Believe it or not, some viewers are actually enjoying SGU.

  5. Outbreaker
    October 25, 2009 at 9:27 pm |

    Reviews are really funny looks like they get paid for this.

    SG1 = Good
    SGA = Still OK
    SGU = Joke

  6. Orion Coran
    Orion Coran
    October 25, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    @segaxgames: While you are entitled to your opinion, that statement is surely out there. Atlantis, you were almost guaranteed survival. Only the case of Beckett and Weir did something happen to them.

    I think there is more fear whether or not the main characters are safe. After all, TPTB did say no one is safe.

    Overall, good review. I knew that the Destiny was gonna survive, etc., but how it was written still allowed for suspense, leaving us to wonder, how? Also, it was written to show us that while we knew they would survive, the characters were portrayed very well not knowing, believing they were gonna die. I believe this was the best episode so far.

  7. Orion Coran
    Orion Coran
    October 25, 2009 at 9:32 pm |


    Outbreaker = your opinion among many

  8. Cape
    October 25, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    This is my first post on Gateworld, and i was thinking of getting into the arguments with ppl who were putting down SGU before it even came out but decided to wait untill the show came out and how i see what it was like. For the record i was looking forward to SGU before it came out and couldnt believe how many fans are afraid of change, but was hoping that once people seen it they would embrace change and move on from your petty vendetas against a new serious thats not trying to be just for you anymore. SGU IS AWESOME. I love it, SG1 will always be my favourit, prob like most and SGA was good but was never anything more then a spin off doing the same thing just in a different way, entertaining as hell but nothing we havent seen before from SG1. SGU is so different and ppl are calling it dull but its just more focused on the people and not things blowing up and ppl getting shot at. WTF is with ppl saying its predicatable. Yes you knew the ship was going to make it out somehow, but did you really think anything was gonna happen was gonna happen to O’neil or Sheppard that would permanently affect them…..the answer is no. And yes daniel did asend(not die) and eventually came back which you kinda knew was going to happen. How come ppl never yeild, oh man i knew Carter or Mckay was gonna save the day whenever they did countless times. Grow up and move on ppl, if you dont like the show dont watch it, i dont see how thats so hard

  9. Outbreaker
    October 25, 2009 at 9:49 pm |

  10. SG-17
    October 25, 2009 at 9:49 pm |

    At first I was a bit weary with SGU, but Air part 3 really sold the show for me. Even though I could care less about intra-character drama, its the sci-fi that interests me and Light really fed that interest. I loved that the Destiny deployed ram scoops and literally took solar power (which is most likely hydrogen plasma to fuel fusion reactors).

  11. cupermacleod
    October 25, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    It’s funny how different people react to knowing things in advance. Although some of my friends avoid spoilers like the plague, I’ve never been particularly concerned. Surprise is not the most important emotion for me when watching a program. Of course the Destiny would not be destroyed, but that doesn’t detract from the enjoyment of watching the situation and the characters reactions play out. (Remember that SG-1 episode heroes? Nobody REALLY expected O’Neill to die, right? And that episode was quite well regarded.)

    I have been somewhat baffled by the intensely negative responses to the show on this site. True, it’s a very different animal from the two series that preceded it, but that is not a reason in itself to judge it harshly.

    So far, I have been very impressed by the depth and nuance given to the main players. It is obvious that real thought has gone into each characters’ background, needs, and motivations. It is anyone’s opinion whether they like those characters or not, but I think it’s intellectually dishonest to react to this show as some kind of ratings hungry sell-out.

    While pseudo-documentary intensity is not necessarily my favorite mode of storytelling, I find that it works to the benefit of this particular show. Battlestar Galactica was always felt heavy-handed and self-important to me, but Universe balances the drama of the situations with the humanity of the characters in a way that I find very satisfying.

    I, for one, will be watching every Friday night!

    P.S. Atlantis is gone. Sad but true. Filling up every comments section with insults about Universe and begging for the show’s return doesn’t help anybody.

    P.P.S. If Universe fails in the ratings, then NOBODY will want to fund Atlantis movies, and then the show will REALLY be over.

  12. dragonbreath
    October 25, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    While I found the solar power predictable, I expected it. Rush kept talking about how the ship did things on purpose and suddenly, after centuries, make a hug mistake like this. Thinking back, Rush probably did know. He really used the situation to make people have to listen to him in the future.

    I do find it hard to believe that the shields can’t keep air in the ship, but can protect the ship from diving into the sun.

    Poor Eli.

  13. Outbreaker
    October 25, 2009 at 10:16 pm |

    They show better end the show it’s not great to see how a good Stargate (SG1) show gets ruining step by step.
    And in me option SGU has already failed in the ratings.
    This image says it all what SGA is:

  14. Outbreaker
    October 25, 2009 at 10:18 pm |

    UPS SGA = SGU bad mistake.

  15. Commodore128
    October 25, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    I was really upset at first when I heard that Atlantis was getting prematurely yanked. I was even more upset when I found out that it was getting replaced by something called Stargate Universe which would feature a bunch of 20 somethings and it being likened to 90210 in space in order to go after a younger demographic. I had made up my mind that I was NOT going to watch SGU. Well, I for one can say without hesitation that my feelings about SGU were dead wrong and the descriptions of SGU prior to its coming out were also dead wrong. This show is…fantastic. I didn’t care too much for SG1. I thoroughly enjoyed Atlantis, but they always had a cookie-cutter, Star Trekish vibe about them. The quality of SGU is phenominal, and far better than Atlantis or SG1. This series takes itself far more seriously than either of those shows, which is a good thing. It makes it unique and sets it apart from the others. I like it. I really do. This episode was predictable to the extent that we all knew the ship would survive. The question was how and how would the characters react. Some of you out there who are dogging this episode because of its predictability are indeed being “intellectually dishonest”, to quote SG-17. don’t you dare say that SG1 or Atlantis never suffered from predictability. You ALWAYS knew that none of the main characters would perish and if they did, you knew the reset button would be pressed by the episode’s end. One thing I’m really digging about SGU is the character that the Destiny is displaying. I’m in the camp that believes the ship is sentient. To what extent? I don’t know. It’s certainly not overly concerned about the occupants that are onboard, otherwise it would have slowed down or somehow assisted the crew that were on the shuttle. I’d also like to see more of Lou Dimond Phillips character. the writers need to find a way to make him a permanent part of the Destiny’s crew. I can’t wait for the next episode.

  16. AscendedTauri
    October 25, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    “Light” was EPIC.

    Do people not understand that it’s not about who lives or who dies, but HOW the story is told!

    This episode was powerful/emotionally intense combined with incredible acting, great music, beautiful vfx, and perfect timing made “Light” one of the best Stargate episodes in a long time.

  17. AscendedTauri
    October 25, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    To all those still whining about Atlantis: please go home and remain in Science Fiction isolation.

  18. Outbreaker
    October 25, 2009 at 10:48 pm |

    When we see the new SGU ratings from 23/10/09 ? I want samthing to LOL at. ^_^

  19. mattcci
    October 25, 2009 at 11:07 pm |

    @ Darren Sumner: My apologies for the offence.

    However, I stand by my underlying thought, which is this: The reviews written for Universe so far on Gateworld seem to be quite contrary to the reaction to Universe I’m seeing out here in real life. I’ve watched Stargate for well over a decade now, and have a solid circle of friends who do as well. None of us seem to be enjoying this show. In fact, the comments texted back and forth during commercial breaks seem to mostly consist of “seriously”, “come on” and some expletives.

    One thing I take offense at is the insinuation that has been oft repeated on these forums, that people who aren’t enjoying Universe are doing so by design or are just complaining because we are upset Atlantis ended. (Or, more absurdly, that we are conservatives who just can’t handle TV shows with sex.) I wanted to like Universe. I expected to like Universe. And I am disappointed that I don’t like Universe. And, from reading these posts, I don’t think I’m alone. Which just makes me sad, because if I had my druthers any incarnation of Stargate would both be good and do well.

    I’m not out to get Universe, and don’t routinely waste my time visiting fan-sites dedicated to shows I want to hate. Having watched and enjoyed 15 seasons Stargate (along with a wide range of other types and genres of TV shows) I just think that Universe is falling far short of both its predecessors and entertaining television.

  20. Scott Watson
    October 25, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    Just my opinion: The reviews and even more so the Podcasts on Gateworld relating to SGU is what I and many people agree with (The episode polls on Gateworld can back this up).

    SGU is different and because it is so different from SG-1 & Atlantis there will be fans who don’t like its new direction and thus sites like Gateworld which have been dedicated to the Stargate franchise will be where you find the most naysayers. They still can’t seem to understand that SGU was never meant to be like its predecessors, if SGU kept with the same premise then the franchise would be run into the ground since its been done before. I was an Atlantis fan but it was not hard to miss that it did copy ideas from SG-1 quite frequently.

    I was actually the opposite of some people. When Atlantis was cancelled and I read about SGU I didn’t expect to like it, the wording used to describe it early on was poor. But the comic con trailer is what sparked my excitement and when SGU aired I did have some minor issues with the pilot but they were put to rest by the next episode and I have thoroughly enjoyed it.

    They wanted to open up the Stargate franchise to new people with SGU and I believe that has been a success. From what ive seen SGU has gotten a positive feedback on non Stargate related sites.

    On Stargate sites themselves you got naysayers who just because they personally don’t like SGU think that its destined to fail and it has been a constant argument between them and those of us who do like SGU.

    The naysayers are fighting a losing battle in my opinion though and I do hope that they will start to reduce in number so that we can get back to talking about the episodes themselves (Like this is getting way off topic from a review on ‘Light’).

  21. jbellanca
    October 25, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    I’ve watched SG-1 and Atlantis both from the very beginning and was looking forward to SGU even though I didn’t like Atlantis being cancelled. That being said, I LOVE SGU. It’s a great show and I love how they’re doing it. I know the detractors and haters will keep on putting SGU down, but hopefully some of them will watch it and give it a chance.

  22. HBMC
    October 26, 2009 at 1:40 am |

    Really enjoyed the episode. Thought it was loads of fun, even if we knew they wouldn’t die. Love the ‘through the star’ moment. Thought Greer, Young and Rush were fantastic in it.

    Only downside was the Chloe/Scott thing, because it came completely out of no where, felt forced and was just incongruous with what we’ve seen so far.


  23. HaxMii
    October 26, 2009 at 2:31 am |

    As for me, I’m going to keep this to review SGU’s Light…
    I’m loving it. And every episode keeps getting better and better. I love how it wasn’t just a bunch of solar panels, but it flew through the star and scooped up the “material” it needed. It makes sense that if it’s that old, still running, and based on it’s mission that it would run off a power source that can be easily renewed. Very well written. I’m still having a hard time deciding which character I like the most. Eli is a great comic relief and a nerd. Dr. Rush is a brilliant scientist, definitely has hidden agendas, and does a great job at “making dislikeable things likeable.” Young is taking charge and doing a great job at it. and for some odd reason i’m kind of likeing scott as well, but i don’t know why yet. We’ll see where SGU takes us next, and I can’t wait.
    I really hope this series last for at least as long as Atlantis is not as long as SG-1.

  24. Egle01
    October 26, 2009 at 3:23 am |

    Uhm, who’s Julian Landau-Brown?

  25. EvilSpaceAlien
    October 26, 2009 at 5:35 am |


    SG1: Bloody awsome.
    SGA: A big joke. Failed to live up to it’s potential.
    SGU: Good, almost great.

    All IMO ;)

  26. Outbreaker
    October 26, 2009 at 6:13 am |

    SGU is not even in the Weeks TOP 10 shows that have aired this month.

  27. The Tenth Doctor
    The Tenth Doctor
    October 26, 2009 at 7:30 am |

    @ Outbreaker: Whilst I agree with most of your thoughts (and the pictures you’ve linked to – hilarious), you’re going a bit overboard with the negativity. ;)

    Also, in my opinion, whilst Atlantis is better, I am enjoying Universe thus far. Not as bad as I anticipated.

  28. Cape
    October 26, 2009 at 7:51 am |

    Im glad you and your friends in the “real world” are all on the same page, fortunitly this show wasnt meant for ppl like you who live in their moms basement and txt eachother back and fourth when your prob right next to eachother. I think so many ppl like you are pissed because this show was aimed at different market then just hardcore fans and your bitter, maybe even a lil hurt. Maybe there just trying to tell you its not you its them, its ok man, youll meet up with something else, it will get better. Sometimes ppl and shows just arent ment to be.

  29. mattcci
    October 26, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    @cape: Actually I’m a lawyer who lives many hundreds of miles away from both my parent’s basement or friends who watch the show. (However, it would be nice to see either the parents or the friends more, but such is life.)

    I would venture that anyone who feels the need to post angrily on the fan-site of a sci-fi show is a “hardcore” fan. That, I’m afraid to say, includes you. And, I would take issue your statement that this show is aimed at a different “market.” Certainly the show’s creators were hoping to expand the audience and bring in new viewers. But, I doubt they were trying to shed the “hardcore” Stargate fans. There just aren’t that many “markets” for people who like to watch shows about people flying around on spaceships.

  30. Darren
    October 26, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    @mattcci: Thanks for that.

    I recognize that for many long-time Stargate fans, SGU just won’t be their cup of tea. It’s a different kind of show, and it would be foolish to think 100 percent of the SG-1 / SGA audiences would cross over without missing a beat.

    That said, I would suggest that the response of you and your circle is far from universal. A lot of people are watching the show and not liking it, and a lot are really enjoying it. We’ve found a reviewer who is generally liking the show so far, but we don’t expect (or want) him to only glow and never criticize.

    I myself found the “use the star to recharge” solution in “Light” to be very predictable (though it by no means ruined the ep for me), so I personally was glad that Julian thought the same and pointed it out. As they say, YMMV.

  31. Outbreaker
    October 26, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    Soap-Opera People are you one of them ?

  32. rtmorgan83
    October 26, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    I would have to say that I enjoyed the episode as well. Over all, I am thus far really enjoying Universe… much more than I ever expected to. I thought that using the star to recharge was predictable, because a ship cannot have flown around the universe for a Million or so years without losing power or somehow recharging its batteries. I also found the characterization of the ship impressive. I wonder if they will actually get it to start talking to them eventually?

    The one gripe that I had with the episode (if you can call it a gripe) is the sex scene between Scott and Chloe. Their ‘cuddle talk’ indicated that they had been growing closer to each other for quite a while now… but that was not shown once in the previous episodes. The only thing that comes close to it is what happened after Senator Armstrong died. It seemed that, after that, they went their own ways. But all of a sudden they were talking about how close they had gotten and stuff and I was frankly shocked. I hadn’t seen anything of the like at ALL! It came completely out of left-field for me!

    I do have to say that I believe Rush knew… for what purpose he with held that information I do not yet know. However, I see a few possibilities and am anxious to see if they are correct. I may not find out, but I hope that I one day do. Rush’s character intrigues me and I hope to learn more about him.

    That being said, good episode. The predictability didn’t kill it for me… and I was to watch it for what it was. A good episode of Science Fiction.

  33. MasonC2K
    October 26, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    I don’t understand how people can argue over OPINIONS. Honestly. It’s like fighting over what tastes better: chocolate or vanilla.

    It’s a matter a personal taste. I don’t mind reading other’s opinions and viewpoints but beating each other up over it is retarded.

    Now as gar as the actually episode in concerned, sure it was predictable but I still enjoyed it. I would rather watch so I already know about well executed that poorly executed plot twist.

    I have enjoyed all 3 Stargates so far. Sure, Atlantis was stopped in it’s prime. And I still don’t like that. But SGU has far exceeded my expectations.

  34. MasonC2K
    October 26, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    Forgive my above typos. There should be a edit feature.

  35. Tonton Beber
    Tonton Beber
    October 26, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    I was a fan of Stargate, from the 1st movie.
    I was a great fan of SG1
    I was very sad when SG1 was cancelled.
    SGA was not as good as SG1 but I still liked it.
    SGU is not Stargate, I don’t recognize it.
    SGU is not science fiction at all. It’s just soad opera. And a low quality one.
    So it’s the end for me, I do go out, I’ve watched 4 episodes of SGU and I’ll never watch one more, and I will not buy the DVDs
    Finished. They killed “my” Stargate.

  36. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 26, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    I’m amused at how many people who bashed battlestar for being slow and lacking humor and having lots of sex and love triangles are now praising universe for doing the exact same thing. Mental gymnastics 10/10!

  37. EvilSpaceAlien
    October 26, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    The difference is that SGU has humor and isn’t as depressing as BSG.

    A couple of examples of the humor of SGU:

    “Thank you, Lieutenant Rose Garden!”

    “Wow! You can tell them apart!”

    “Recipes. For the love of god recipes.”

    “Why am I watching this on TV?”

  38. Scott Watson
    October 26, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    @MasonC2K well said (regardless of typos lol)

    Like I said before I just wish that we could get back to talking about the episodes themselves and not about everyone’s opinion of SGU in general (In every single SGU related article).

    Yes some people don’t like it, fair enough that there opinion but continuing to insult SGU (It has been insults and not constructive criticism btw) does nothing but piss off those who do like it.

    That is all it does. MGM isn’t going to come on here, read your comment, see the “error of there ways” and decide to make SGU more like SG-1 and Atlantis.

    SGU is different deal with it.

  39. cmuty
    October 26, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    To anyone that says that the ship and the crew surviving a total catastrophe makes the episode predictable I say, REALLY? Predictable in the way that a show doesn’t want to end 5 episodes into the 20 episode season? That type of predictable? Yes it was pretty evident that the ship would somehow recharge it’s batteries in the sun, that doesn’t matter. What matters is was the story well written and well acted. In spite spoiling it for others here were some other predictable movies/tv shows.

    Titanic – The boat sinks.
    Superman – The kryptonite doesn’t kill him.
    Any movie with Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks – They live happily ever after.

    It’s not what the outcome is, it is wether the story was told well. Which I think the review pretty much addressed.

  40. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 26, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    The irony of that post is truly staggering.

  41. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    October 26, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    How many of you are from the US? Cause I’m trying to see a pattern here… Why is the “land of the brave” so afraid of some comfort sex in a tv show? That’s what people do… One wants to quote “while my guitar gently weeps” when seeing all that. It’s sex, people do that, for comfort too, in extreme situations. At least they do in ye olde world. I loved the episode. Eli and Chloe scenes where… familiar… Stopped liking Scott ;). Rush is still an awesome character. And I like Greer more then the actor portraying him…! Even the praying that usually annoys me didn’t this time.

  42. Orion2
    October 26, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    I couldn’t care less what all you haters say about the show. SGU is freakin’ awesome so far in my opinion! Seriously loving it! :)

  43. wnelson
    October 26, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    Okay, I’ve bashed the show in other posts. Too much money, poor writing, and lack of intellegence.

    Now whilst I also suspect some dodgy goings on in review land, maybe we as the ‘fans’ (be it of SG-1, SG:A, or even SG:U) need to remember sites and resources like this need the co-operation of the actors, cast and production. Without said co-operation they wouldn’t get as far as they have. With that in mind and the need for some form of stargate to stay on the air (on the part of GW,and yes guys you kind of do) is it really suprising that the reviews are largely positive.

    Now As I’ve said before I’m a writer for stage, and whilst stage and TV have very different requirements I still know good storywriting as most of the rest of you do. I’ve tried really hard to find anything good in SG:U, and you know what I keep coming up empty. Dispite this I’ve kept watching. Why? Well I don’t actually know, my feeling is that I know the production team can pull off a great show, and so I’m hoping that these last few episodes have been a slow introduction for the benefit of new viewers.

    With all of that said, GW review writers are hardly professional critics and guys, you are conflicting with a great deal of the critics.

  44. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 26, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    Have there been any glowing reviews for Universe from other critics? All I saw were some average reviews before the pilot aired and then silence after that. Even Maureen Ryan, a big internet critic and fan of Atlantis and SG-1, went through 5 episodes of Universe and was so thoroughly unimpressed that she stopped watching.

  45. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    October 26, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    It’s not that surprising seeing there’s only five episodes anyway. Crtics? Bah, humbug. All bunch of failed directors and knowitalls.

  46. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    October 26, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    UNLESS she has been given access to the other fiteen? Makes me mad thinking someone out there has the whole season and I’m going to spend a year watching it…

  47. bansidhewail
    October 26, 2009 at 4:26 pm |

    I was pretty thrilled with Light. It was the first SGU ep that felt like Stargate to me. I was smiling ear-to-ear for a large portion of the episode, just enjoying it and excited by it. Anytime Peter DeLuise shows up I am almost guaranteed to love the show, and this was a very rewarding viewing experience overall. I especially loved getting the backstory on Greer’s time in the brig–perfectly timed after two episodes of Telford’s dickery to make Greer suddenly seem like a teddy bear, especially in combination with how solidly he backed up Young in the lottery scene. Loving getting to know these characters, and looking forward to next week more than any week so far, because this week finally sold me on the show I really wanted to love all along but was not yet feeling there with.

  48. Jaames
    October 26, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    I’m still really enjoying the show. I honestly think the trick to that is not comparing SGU to what has come before. You need to judge it based on it’s own merits, not how it compares to previous incarnations. This is a new show, we’ve known that since Brad Wright first announced it.

    I’m not judging anyone else’s opinion, or saying anyone is wrong for not liking the show. This is just my advice. Forget SG-1 and SGA when watching this show. This is a clean slate and, quite frankly, it’s success may be our best hope for more straight to DVD movie releases of our respective favorites (SG-1/SGA).

  49. sgfan
    October 26, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    I’ve been enjoying the show so far. A little slow in the plot development. I hope they spend some more time off world. Where’s the episode poll?

  50. flmatthew
    October 26, 2009 at 6:26 pm |

    I am still going to give it a chance, but I don’t have much too say about “Light”. I was much too predictable. I had it figured out and that makes watching it a tad boring. I am looking forward to “V” on Nov.3 as you can’t have too much sci-fi. Hang in there people. Give it this 1/2 season and then decide.

  51. Scott Watson
    October 26, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    Would bet money that people wont wait to decide and that we will have this same pointless argument between naysayers and those who like it in the next SGU related article.

  52. Mantropill
    October 26, 2009 at 10:08 pm |

    SGU=Epic Fail! Good bye Stargate!

  53. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 26, 2009 at 10:33 pm |

    Watch the pilot before you decide!
    Watch the first 3 episodes before you decide!
    Watch the first half before you decide!
    Watch the whole season before you decide!
    Watch the whole series before you decide!

    Stargate:Deadline Extension

  54. dauntless1
    October 27, 2009 at 2:35 am |

    I for one thought the episode was very underwhelming. The Chloe/Matt thing was so corny and predictable, and the Eli-being-jealous thing was way too obvious. Also, the lottery was not as suspenseful as I had hoped. It was too fast with no moments of “oh my gosh.” I would have liked to have had more of the main cast to go on the shuttle to build the idea that maybe the Destiny WOULD be destroyed after all. But they left so many of the leading characters on the ship, it was so clear that there would be some kind of solar capturing device on the ship (although i was thinking solar panels, like on Atlantis, not solar catchers, so that was a surprise). Oh, and the scenes between Rush and Young were not THAT good. Young doesn’t get as heated as Rush does, so the dynamic is not that great. I mean, compared to Jack O’Neill’s intensity when it came down to the wire or (my favorite) the Col. Ellis/Dr. Weir argument in SGA, the “conflict” on the show between Rush and Young feels so lame. I do like the intensity of Rush so far, even if I think he’s still a nut.

    While it was nice to see some back story and some more character development, this episode could have been a lot better. Although I could say that about ALL the SGU episodes so far. This episode gets a C- due to high predictability, lame attempts at suspense, and the cheesiness.

    And overall the series gets just a C from me. I’m just waiting and waiting for SOMETHING to happen. So we know the ship is smart and heavily automated. Cool. So we know stuff about the characters. Alrighty then. And the characters are interacting with each other more than in any other Stargate show before. That’s… interesting. But where is the conflict outside of all this? I keep waiting for an alien race of some kind to show up and cause some havoc, but I can’t see how the show will pull it off. I mean, its a crew with very few military personnel and no known way to defend themselves efficiently without running out of bullets in season 2. So… if they’re not gonna be meeting any bad-ass aliens to fight, and all we’re getting is a bunch of people talking ALL episode long… why should I stick around? The characters haven’t really hooked me yet, there’s no real humor anymore, and it’s just too sub-par to me. I’ll give it to episode 10, but if this episode is any indication of what’s coming up in the rest of the season. I’m gone.

  55. SuperG
    October 27, 2009 at 2:53 am |

    I’am not surprise that reviews are overly positive. As a review you must watch it at a more objective and non baised or preference point of view.

    So acting like a moron because they kill SGA has nothing to do with a review. So forget hate reviews. That’s for SGA reviews. Bashing insulting SGU because your still arent over it. Is extreem silly.

    I do also prefere Hero adventure aktion exploring starhipbased Scifi. With the right dose of humor. So SG1 is the show with fit’s best to me and SGA to.
    I don’t like drama en character ship crap. So don’t like the direction it’s going.
    But If you review there are a lot of people who are into that. So you must view it from al perspective. And SGa has nothing to do with it.

    SGU is heavier in acting, because quality drama need more profesiolism in acting so a more talented cast.
    Stardom has nothing to do with that. RDA has a good feel of humor. But drama? Don’t now. But that wasn’t a requierment. As for all other SG1 SGA cast members.
    Most of the SGU cast are unkown to me. except Diamond phillips dude. That makes it more emersive. Then a Mcguyver doing fist season of SG1.
    even now SGU supercedes in acting above SG1 and SGA but it’s not my thing.

    My fav character wich shines in LIGHT is the DESTINY. The reason I watch scifi is the FX CGI

    The drama comes in decent dosis so is very barable to me. unlike BSG wich made me depressive for day after seeing season 4 even skipping some drama on my PS3.

    But as a viewer you have a choice or preference. Does this new direction of stargate takes with SGU, fit you or is it totaly not your thing. That’s personal.

    It perfectly right to say you don’t like it.
    But it doesn’t mean it’s crap. It’s just not your thing. And move on
    For some of the hardcore viewer nay sayers. It’s not there thing because mostly of sga that’s plain silly.
    SGU might be judge by them with extreem fundamentalistic anti bais on the show.
    Not every one come over the cancelation of SGa that easy. Like the won’t like it at all.
    And it doesn’t matter if the show is good.

    I wonder if this bashing and insulting was there if SGA and SGU where parralel shows.

    The fact is this forums was a warzone of anti SGU strikes wenn SGA was fresh canceled.
    It feels now like the marshal plan like building up germany after WW2.
    The hate for SGU might have a deep origin.
    It might be that canceling a show. Where lot of hardcore viewer are fans, or in love with some actors. Is a bad thing for fandom.
    It would be healthier for SGU to run SGA a season or 2 along side SGU.

    Offcourse it can be that they accept to loose some SG1 SGA prefered viewer. That come with a new direction. But would be over compensated. with there new target audience. But that can be a wild geuss. If they pull that of.

    I like SGU far more then BSG because it’s a nice drama humor balance. It’s a much higher quality show. The destiny is great char.
    But I miss the aktion exploring and alien stuff. I miss SG1 and SGA and there movies

  56. Scott Watson
    October 27, 2009 at 5:16 am |

    “It perfectly right to say you don’t like it.
    But it doesn’t mean it’s crap. It’s just not your thing. And move on For some of the hardcore viewer nay sayers.”

    God I so wish that they would.

  57. Darren
    October 27, 2009 at 6:57 am |

    @sgfan: The episode poll was a victim of a glitch related to our server move. It should be back in the next day or two!

  58. ictus75
    October 27, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    This show keeps getting better each week! Dr. Rush and Colonel Young are fantastic lead characters. The fact that they are so opposite, yet need each other in a begrudging way, works well. Greer & Eli are the 2 most intriguing characters. I can’t help but feel that when they manage to rise above their circumstances that they will both be pivotal to Destiny’s, and the crew’s, survival.

    Also, 5 shows in and no aliens! This is great. The show has really been about the characters and hasn’t needed some alien monster to come after them yet. Way to go! I’m sure when we do meet the aliens it will be different that the typical “they want to kill and eat Destiny’s creww” type aliens.

    And for the people who DON”T LIKE SGU, just shut up already and go back to watching your SG1 & Atlantis DVD sets — some of us out here really LOVE SGU and don’t want to keep hearing your bickering about how it doesn’t meet your expectations. SGU has become my fave current TV show and I’m hoping it has a long, multi-season life!

  59. gringoarchvenom
    October 27, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    i said on a previous review that i would wait a bit longer until i made my mind up about this new series, but I’m already there. As a true stargate fan having watched every episode and movie at least (and i do mean at least) once and thus having true scope on a new series, iv’e viewed it objectively taking into account it’s flaws and strengths. This said my grading so far would be as follows: SG1:9/10
    but of course, it’s only been 5 episodes so far so theres room for improvement. The reason SG1 and SGA got 9/10 was because although they are my favourite shows of all time, even they made mistakes and were predictable on occasion. Nobody ever thought the main cast members in SG1 would die, and daniels acsension doesn’t count, as he was still alive, but on a different plane of existence. When SGA killed Beckett i was stunned, but knew there would be some way for him to return later on. Even now, with SGU, Chloes father may yet be returned to us to spout some more pompous rubbish (lol), i wouldn’t discount anything where stargate is concerned, ever since the first movie when daniel is revived in the sarcophagus we have all known that main cast members may die, but death is not always final.

  60. Clemontine
    October 27, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    I dont really consider it predictable. Its not about, “Oh no! Are they gonna die?” Its about, “Oh no! How do they not die?” That’s why Divide and Conquer is my fave SG-1 epi ever.

  61. cmuty
    October 27, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    @imitation tofu
    This is the definition of ironic = Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended.

    Given that, explain your post on Oct 26, 12:52pm.

  62. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    cmuty, the irony comment was meant for Tanith, who spends numerous posts in each thread complaining about people going off topic. Amusing. I happened to post before your post came up.

  63. Scott Watson
    October 27, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    @Imitation Tofu you just happen to be one the people who spends numerous posts in each thread going off topic. Don’t see the point tbh.

  64. Imitation Tofu
    Imitation Tofu
    October 27, 2009 at 5:24 pm |

    Of course you don’t. That’s what makes it so amusing. Carry on!

  65. sledgehammer
    October 27, 2009 at 8:45 pm |

    I read the previews of what SGU was all about and didn’t think it would appeal to me, because of this I didn’t actively record/watch any of the episodes.
    I stumbled across this episode (20% of the way into the episode) and it was my first glimpse of SGU. My initial thoughts were confirmed, I was completely underwhelmed and found this episode to be slow and boring – were the first 3 episodes this dull?

  66. sledgehammer
    October 27, 2009 at 8:50 pm |

    And don’t get me started on that non-steady cam they use, I tried to suffer it for a few episodes of BSG but just couldn’t.
    If the episode had been any good I might have been tempted to get my TV mounted on an image stabilizer to cancel it out!

  67. Scott Watson
    October 27, 2009 at 10:40 pm |

    @Imitation Tofu I don’t see the point of the same argument being repeated time & time again, its just flaming that wont amount to anything in the long run.

  68. Darren
    October 28, 2009 at 6:35 am |

    Everyone, please keep comments civil and on-topic. Bickering and name-calling will simply be deleted.

    Read the full commenting guidelines here.

  69. US06154
    October 28, 2009 at 9:30 am |

    ROTGLMAO.. oooh that’s it, I’m telling mom.. Mom, Tanith’s calling us names.. But seriously, Forget the SG franchise, These forums are much more entertaining..

  70. Scott Watson
    October 28, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    @US06154 the sad thing is that your believable when you say that your gonna run and tell mum.

    Some people on here do seriously sound like that they live in there’s parents basements and take things far to seriously.

    As I recall I and even this article writer was accused as working for MGM/Syfy (Paranoid).

    This is a Stargate article on a Stargate site so its kinda obvious that there will be fans here. What the hell do constant flamers hope to achieve?

    On topic: ‘Light’ has been the best episode of SGU so far in my opinion, people are entitled to disagree with that but that doesn’t make them right.

    SGU isn’t going to fail just because a minority of hardcore fans of the 2 previous series says so.

  71. SGUfanatic
    October 28, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    “Light” was a fantastic episode, showed real emotions from the characters. A lot of people think that the Scott/Chloe love scenes (and yes, they were love scenes, not just sex) were over done and out of context. If you think back to the end of “Air 3” where Chloe and Scott are talking in his quarters you can see that they are very attracted to each other and becoming close. I will reiterate again, they were two people who are growing closer expressing their feelings for what may be the (as Brian Jacob Smith put it)first and maybe last time. Also, how callous would it have been for Scott to jump out of the bed and leave with no talk afterwards? It allowed the viewers to see that they do care for each other beyond the bedroom.

    I feel bad for Eli, but the impression I got was that Chloe views Eli (at least at this time) as a friend and Eli, while hoping for more, understands this and will take what he can get, doesn’t mean he wont keep trying.

    While a lot of us pretty much figured out the Destiny would save herself, the action and music for it made for some great dramatic effect. I liked the shuttle trying to reach home and the fact that it was ELI who actually figured it out “MATH BOY, send it” said it all. Also I think it was very big of Eli to know that Chloe has feelings for Scott different from him and for now, try to keep Chloe happy.

    The verbal dialogue not to mention the body language between Young and Rush was superb. It shows Rush with human elements like feelings, however much he doesnt want to show them.

  72. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    October 28, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    I rewatched all the episodes after watchin Light, and I think it may be attraction, but that he’s a sex addict or something like that, and just knows how to play her. Not sure if I can expect that from the writers though. Also “it’s a spaceship Eli, not an F16” makes me think he’s a bit of a condescending knowitall. Yay for a second of nerdy over interpreting of a tv show!

  73. Clemontine
    October 28, 2009 at 4:10 pm |

    @sledgehammer This was actually the best episode so far.

  74. SGUfanatic
    October 28, 2009 at 6:03 pm |

    The comment of “it’s not an F16 Eli, it’s a spaceship” was more out of stress not being a know it all. Also as far as Scott being a sex addict, I dont see it that way. We all have our opinions, thank you for keeping it real.

  75. Jan Vetulani
    Jan Vetulani
    October 28, 2009 at 7:45 pm |

    That much is obvious I think. However what I’m saying is more about how you react to different people in stress-related situations. The way Scott is portrayed there makes me think of some people I know, or know of, acting pretty much the same way. I think there’s going to be some tension between the two of them later on. Anyway… I should have something better to do then to dissect the personalities of fictional characters…

  76. Darren
    October 28, 2009 at 7:59 pm |

    For all you interested voters, the site poll for “Light” has been fixed! Votes will be tallied in about a week’s time to calculate GateWorld’s “Fan Rating” number.

  77. Scott Watson
    October 28, 2009 at 9:03 pm |

    @Darren Sumner cheers for fixing the site poll =)

    Will the next podcast be up soon?

  78. vanity01
    October 29, 2009 at 4:50 am |

    I will always keep watching, as I love the Franchise and will always give it my support. That is what a true fan would do, not constantly bash it publicly. Anyway, every show you watch is “predictable” or else go watch a movie that ends at the end of the movie…. I am really enjoying watching Louise Ferreira (Young), I think he is great, my favourite so far (as well as Eli…). Rush is intriguing and Robert Carlysle pulls it off perfectly. As predictable as the ships surviving was, I actually didn’t expect it to fly through the star and scoop up the reserves directly – I thought that was great. I expected the ship to alter course or something at the last minute, or an alien race to come to the rescue suddenly – THAT would have been more SG1 or SGA style. This was different to me, and actually surprised me…
    Needless to say, I enjoyed this episode, and hope for more surprises…

  79. bradleym2@hotmail.com
    October 29, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    Okay, I realize that a review here is based on what has been broadcast. But, I have to get to the heart of the matter. The writing is lacking suspense, drama, conflict, brinkmanship, desperation, depth or believable pace. The story plods along with poor dynamics. No factions have been formed out of the presented populations (military, civilian, scientific). All very reactive human behaviors to dire situations.

    All the characters are brought together at the beginning of the episode to announce the lottery. Then, they are brought back together again for the lottery. What happens in between lacks suspense. Minimal interaction or alternate rationales for deciding who is chosen for the shuttle are presented. No obvious discussion that setting up a human colony requires certain skill sets, population ratios (male/female), etc. The science has been eviscerated from this show which would have provided a realistic backdrop. Everyone acquiesces except for one loudmouth who gets knocked out. If these are the wrong people, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, then why are they not acting more irrational. People who are going to die would act more desperate about getting on the shuttle.

    Factions should have been formed before the lottery, how about a coup, maybe some blood, anticipate that Greer would be a watchdog and get several people to wolf pack Greer when he least expects it. That would appear more dramatic.

    With all that said, the ending sequences were better and more enjoyable. The pace picks up the destiny reveals a little more about itself (the silent character).

  80. nkilbourn
    October 29, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    I think this was the first episode that was watchable…

  81. LordAnubis
    October 30, 2009 at 4:27 am |

    I am going to put this real simple.
    Don’t watch it then.

    I mean, yes. Of course following what great series SG-1 and Atlantis where, is ALWAYS going to be hard to follow in their shoes. But give it a chance. It’s only on like the 5th episode.
    I was at first not happy with them cancelling SGA and bringing in this new one. From which I hardly new the actors. But I thought “hey. It’s a stargate spin off, so I have to give it a try”. Which I did. Not everything is going to be like the original, and not live up to your expectations. They also can’t have exactly the same thing as the other two previous, because that would just be plain boring.

    As an episode, I quite liked it. The faces and emotions as they were picked to go on the shuttle was pure great acting. Character development is moving along as well.

  82. Saint Killian
    Saint Killian
    October 30, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    I just want to know, being 5 episodes in and all, how many times is the ship going to save these people? Let us please be honest, so far the only thing we’ve seen is the ship save them. Every single time they think they are going to die it’s all,”The ship knew what it was doing all along.” To me SGU is a poor copy of Battlestar Galactica (2nd gen). All we need now is human looking robots who told the bad guys where to find the base that got this ball rolling. Maybe it’s more like “Lost” added to Battlestar. I bet the season finale will be them finally getting into the control functions. I do, however, swear if they keep using the “The wrong group of people” tag-line this much ever episode I will have to give up Stargate for good.

  83. GateHunter
    October 30, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    This show is clearly for those people who say “I could care less” when they mean the opposite *g*

  84. Scott Watson
    October 30, 2009 at 10:36 pm |

    @Saint Killian replace “Ship” with “Mckay” and you got SGA.

  85. onceagatefan
    October 31, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    I have been a gate fan for years. I saw SGU and thought I would give it a chance just because every show your interested in deserves that. My opinion is simple. If I wanted to watch lost on a space ship I would listen to lost (or any daytime soap) while watching star trek voyager on mute. Admittedly the plot just does not appeal to me. Of course part of that is because in my opinion there is no plot. When people are faced with their deaths a simple butt stroke from a gun is not going to stop a mob. When someone is hated as much as Rush is someone would have whacked him to save every one else. If I wanted to watch strangers fight with stupid unrealistic outcomes I would tune into Jerry Springer or just watch BSG. I don’t begrudge others their opinions about the show and hope they continue to enjoy it. Me I’m turning it off and never watching it again. Star Gate was always an adventure not a soap to me. The new direction they took the show I hope does not alienate too many more fans.

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