39 Responses

  1. gategod
    May 8, 2012 at 10:03 pm |

    Syfy kills more dreams!

  2. DancerChick1982
    May 8, 2012 at 10:33 pm |

    Just when I get into a show, it meets it’s end. I came into this show during season 3, and began watching regularly through reruns on Chiller last summer. Fell in love, and now collecting boxed sets (I just ordered season 3 on Blu-Ray). If it doesn’t come back, at least it’s not an older series that I am discovering 20 years later, as this happens alot with me. Great article, Chad! :-). Looking forward to the audio!

  3. Sylvia
    May 8, 2012 at 10:39 pm |

    Comcast also pulled the plug on Eureka. Not a good time for sci-fi on Syfy. :(

  4. bluewater1
    May 8, 2012 at 10:48 pm |

    It’s unfortunate that we’re seeing the probable end of another imaginative scripted show. The worst problem with this trend, as I see it, is that producers and investors are going to be more and more reluctant to take gambles on new ideas for future science fiction projects. The initial investment in sets and casting is going to simply too risky. It’s too easy to pump out a cheap reality show with little to lose if it tanks.

  5. GoodThings2Life
    May 8, 2012 at 10:54 pm |

    Since the death of SGU, I only have 3 shows on SyFy… Eureka (ending soon), Sanctuary (uncertain), and Being Human (good, coming back, but I can get it through other means). I don’t even watch WWE Smackdown, and I’m actually a big WWE fan.

    I’m done with SyFy once they make a decision on Sanctuary. There’s just nothing left that they can even remotely call Science Fiction… what’s the point?

  6. nrc_02
    May 9, 2012 at 1:00 am |

    this gives me some time to catch up on the last season…

  7. Althir
    May 9, 2012 at 2:37 am |

    I just can’t stand it anymore…it only about money these days and no one cares about a good show…if the network (or their shareholders) do not see the money, they kick it out…no matter what…

    You rather wait unitl a series has 3 seasons before you start but even then you can’t be sure that you’ll have a start and ending point. I could name at least about 10 great shows, which have been cancelled out of a sudden…

    Sorry but I’m just pi****…

  8. Rivyn
    May 9, 2012 at 8:52 am |

    Well in all seriousness the series has been going downhill for a long time. I love Tapping’s work, but the show is boring.

    About the only interesting characters on the Show are/were Telsa and Druit.

  9. hewittor
    May 9, 2012 at 9:47 am |

    Syfy is just killing Scifi

  10. Sanctuarybabe07
    May 9, 2012 at 10:13 am |

    Syfy is really wonderful you know. It likes killing of wonderful shows. Great Syfy! Nice! I applaud your stupidity!

  11. Mrja84
    May 9, 2012 at 11:12 am |

    It’s not Syfy’s fault this time. They got bought by a new company, changes happened, and they are literally unable to make a decision until COMCAST figures out what’s what.

  12. Sylvia
    May 9, 2012 at 3:49 pm |

    Up till today I’ve bought into the theory that Comcast is the Big Bad in all this – they were blamed for canceling Eureka (as I said above) and now they are getting the blame for the hold-up with Sanctuary. But the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if this isn’t simply a case of “good cop-bad cop.” Syfy can blame Comcast for unpopular decisions and still say they are championing (unsuccessfully) science fiction on their network. Not sure if it’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised by anything.

    I understand though, that the bottom line is what’s important in television. If it isn’t able to make money for someone, somehow, it won’t be back.

  13. Browncoat1984
    May 9, 2012 at 4:47 pm |

    Syfy…GROW A FRACKING BACKBONE! Comcast/NBC CLEARLY doesn’t understand your channel and the audience you were designed to cater for. YOU CAN’T KEEP CANCELING YOUR POPULAR SHOWS AND EXPECT TO RETAIN AN AUDIENCE!

    Not only cancelling them, but the WAY you handled it. Eureka was a disaster, from “final season” to “no final season” to “final episode,” SGU was a disaster “we’re just gonna announce it on twitter and wait months before we even say a word about it officially to fans” Caprica “we’re just not gonna air the remaining episodes and show re-runs of a 20 year old show that everyone’s seen” and now Sanctuary “waiting…waiting…waiting…waiting…”

    You clearly don’t understand how passionate your audience is about their shows.

    Amanada, our hearts go out to you and the cast and crew of a show that’s matured nicely over the years. It would be heartbreaking to loose another great genre show, especially with so many already going off (Chuck, Fringe next year, Eureka, Terra Nova)

    Clearly the WORST thing to happen to SyFy is being bought out by NBC and the SECOND WORST thing to happen is being bought out by Comcast, neither company seems to know what to do or how to treat this network that was obviously created for a niche genre. Now they’re trying (unsuccessfully) to branch out to a new audience, when the world already sees the SyFy channel as catering to the science fiction genre. Reality TV? Wrestling? BS! They’re NOT going to change their image, no matter how hard they try, and the harder they try the more hardcore fans they loose.

    Watch, in 2-3 years you’ll see SyFy filing for bankruptcy because they lost all their fans.

  14. axcel1
    May 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm |

    Browncoat1984, no, it won’t, it will do something worse, it will do the same thing CourtTV and The Nashville Network did. Remember them, CourtTV became TruTV and, The Nashville Network became The National Network and then, SpikeTV. Or, maybe distanting it’s self from SciFi would be the best thing SyFy could do for SciFi fans, change the network’s name completely and let some other company create a SciFi channel. Hey, see what I did, I imagined greater!! LOL

  15. stargatefan1958
    May 9, 2012 at 8:04 pm |

    I really dislike scifi, they have taken anything scifi and put junk on. i hardly watch the channel anymore, only eureka and when it was on sanctuary. i just wanna cry

  16. Sylvia
    May 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm |

    Unfortunately, axcel1 probably has it right. Syfy as a network has had better cumulative ratings than in previous years, when the good stuff was on. So why should Comcast listen when Syfy wants to air sci-fi? There is no incentive financially. I mourn the loss of so many good shows who were cut short before their time, SGA, Farscape, Eureka… but realistically don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel for Syfy. We are just gonna get more of the same, because it is working for the suits at the top.

  17. btc909
    May 10, 2012 at 12:52 am |

    This series as with any other was doomed on SciFry. If you want to survive get another network to buy the series.

  18. Papauno
    May 10, 2012 at 1:45 am |

    I think it is a time that some one creates a new network to compete with frigging SYF(Y)ilis

  19. Browncoat1984
    May 10, 2012 at 1:58 am |

    Exactly, we need a new science fiction/fantasy channel. Maybe it could be called something like The Science Fiction and Fantasy network so there’s NO question what this channel is all about.

    It needs to be run not by a bunch of suits who only care about the bottom line but by people who are just as much sci-fi fans as the people who watch their shows, people who understand that their viewers don’t like being left in the dark, don’t like being crapped around when it comes to cancelling their shows (Eureka and that fiasco)

    That being said, I DO understand that as a network you need to make money, and there are shows that are just bad and should be cancelled, however, even the worst shows sometimes find a core audience and isn’t there a way you could ease the sense of loss and disappointment when a favorite show is gone? IE if a show ends on a cliffhanger, maybe you could simply close it off with a TV movie or miniseries ala Farscape and Firefly?

    You know, this recent kickstarter phenomenon that has been spreading has got me thinking, I know Doug Drexler, who worked on ST:TNG and its spin-offs, and another guy are trying to get a series of sci-fi movies funded. I also know that the youtube fan series Fallout Nuka Break has had a sucessful kickstarter for season 2.

    Would it be possible for shows like Stargate to have some sort of a kickstarter set up where people could donate to help keep it running? I mean, if we approach the former producers of SGU/SGA and told them our idea for a series of SG-1/SGU/SGA movies to give us better closure. Obviously I doubt we could fund a whole season, BUT maybe a few SGU movies, a few SGA movies, a few SG-1 movies and one big combo movie or something to say “we’re putting it to rest now, here’s your grand finale!”

    Would it be possible to approach them about this and say “lets get a kickstarter set up, can you guys go to MGM and say ‘hey, our fans have this great idea on how to fund the project, wanna give it a shot?'” Maybe do this with Sanctuary too and Eureka?

    I can almost guarantee that there are enough people who are fans of these shows that they would get a decent amount of funding via kickstarter. I mean, look how many millions of dollars have been raised via kickstarter, how many successful projects have been funded.

    What do you guys think? Darren and David? Could something like this work?

    While I would love to see a new Stargate show, right now all I really want is better closure for SGU/SGA and a few last stories with the SG-1 cast before everybody gets too old and too far apart. I know cast members like Robert Carlyle and Michael Shanks are involved with other series, but their shows aren’t year-round, and Carlyle’s show at least is shot in Vancouver, which is where Stargate was shot, so I bet they could all work it around their schedules for the fans.

  20. Carly
    May 10, 2012 at 5:10 am |

    Absolutely, Browncoat1984 and Sylvia. Are we not to have any sci-fi anymore?
    Another thing, if Sanctuary and the other’s ratings have dropped, how do they measure it. Did they calculate the Canadian and US viewers only?
    I am from South Africa and we are only viewing Season 4 eps 6 tomorrow night so it is stupid to do the above. If only the Cable viewers who get Sanctuary after the US are also used in the ratings, what about the rest of us.
    Not all of our Country has cable and have 2 wait to hire the DVD/Blue Ray and they are quite popular(one has to prebook), despite the fact that we don’t have Conventions.

    I HATE Sy-fy.

  21. medegno51
    May 10, 2012 at 5:52 pm |


    Great idea. I say let’s get this thing started.

  22. axcel1
    May 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm |

    We can only hope and pray for a real SciFi Channel. God, I miss the good ol’ days when we had scifi fridays and scifi mondays, too.

  23. Starscapesg1
    May 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm |

    Syfy network as a whole is going down! There started when they started canceling scifi shows off the scifi channel and going against there own entertainment brand! The cancellation of Farscape started there demise and since they started canceling SG1 Atlantis and SGU there is for the most part very little science fiction on syfy anymore. I don’t see this network being around to much longer! Mainly because THEY SUCK!!!!

  24. Slayme
    May 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm |

    Hello all, it’s been a while since I last posted here.

    @Sylvia @Browncoat1984.
    If you’ll recall I was kicking the idea of fan funded seasons of our favorite shows a year ago when there was was so much discussion about the rather rude cancellation of SGU. Show funded by the fans for the fans using a system similar to that of public broadcasters. The show NOVA for instance has a few corporate sponsors that get mentioned at the beginning, middle and end of an episode along with thanks to “viewers like you”.
    If just 1 million fans of a show like SGU that has high production costs made a pledge of $25-$50 a full (20 eps) could easily be made. There’s easily twice that many fans between US and Canada (we’ll ignore the fictional numbers from Nielsen shall we?). Add in overseas fan base and there would be plenty of money for our fave scripted shows like SGU, Eureka and Sanctuary.I’d fork out $50 for EACH of these shows. How about you????

  25. KurganSGC
    May 11, 2012 at 8:35 am |

    Mark Stern: The Syfy Reaper.

  26. rhurstsr
    May 11, 2012 at 11:54 am |

    When will Syfy stand for Sci-fi and not WWE?

  27. retiredat44
    May 12, 2012 at 7:54 am |

    fans are so used to getting screwed we would be in shock if we were not screwed,, big time… (I had to say it softly,,,)..

  28. nobycane
    May 12, 2012 at 4:09 pm |

    Well, my brother in law works for Comcast’s PR/Marketing and I have told him that his company sucks in the first place, reason I switched to Verizon FIOS. Anyways, he told me that the Comcast buyout of SYFY was a strategic move to control broadcasting and marketing of “reality-based” shows (i.e. WWE). And their longterm plan is to change the handling of the SyFy network to something else…thus officially killing the moniker of SyFy altogether, and creating another format(s) to control airing of shows, preventing other providers (Verizon, DirectTv, etc.) from automatically airing syndicated programming…if they want to – then they need to sign an agreement or contract.

  29. Browncoat1984
    May 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm |


    I bet we could at least get the following: a 10-13 episode season of SGU to finish the series, 2-4 movies for Stargate Atlantis to provide better closer, 2-4 movies for SG-1 and 1 movie to combine all the Stargate shows for one big epic finale.

    Maybe we could even do more than that and help revive the old guard of Stargate SG-1/SGA/SGU for more than that, but if we can at LEAST provide better closer I would be happy.

    I bet Eureka fans could EASILY fund their show for 13 episode seasons no problem. Same goes for Sanctuary, Chuck and Fringe. Imagine if Netflix jumped on that bandwagon and agreed to be the distributor for these shows. So you have fan funding + Netflix funding = successful series.


    I bet even unsuccessful sf/fantasy shows that in general are just bad (like Terra Nova or Alcatraz or Awake) could even get funded that way. Okay, maybe NOT Terra Nova because it was so expensive, but Alcatraz and Awake, sure!

    I mean, yeah we would have to approach the networks and owners of the IP like FOX/SyFy/MGM about the rights to these shows, but I honestly believe that it can be done! Already one successful show, Fallout Nuka Break which is a youtube show based off of the Fallout New Vegas video game has been successfully funded!

    I would be perfectly happy with just 13 episode seasons if they could be funded through kickstarter. I’ve sort of gotten used to it since I’ve been watching BBC shows like Merlin and Doctor Who, and many shows in my opinion work much better under 13 episodes than a full 20-22 episodes (Sanctuary is one of them, I felt their 20 episode season was the worst one they did but season 4 was so much better – and most fans agree that Battlestar Galactica’s best season was its shorter 10 episode season).

    I bet that if we could get Darren and David behind this idea they could use their connections to the folks behind the Stargate productions to present to them this idea for getting us the conclusion that Stargate deserves!

  30. 3531767
    May 14, 2012 at 10:03 am |

    If all you people boycotted syfail when they cancelled stargate we wouldnt be talking about this and probably would still have stargate. But you all wimped out and syfail knows that they can do whatever they want without repercussions from the fan. So you all go be good little cattle and just sit there. You all talk but no action.

  31. Browncoat1984
    May 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm |


    SyFy doesn’t care about us. If we all boycotted SyFy then what few good shows are still on wouldn’t be – Warehouse 13, Alphas.

    Eureka was canceled and it was one of SyFy’s top shows. They don’t care.

    I still say we need to do a kickstarter to get Stargate and Sanctuary started back up.

  32. Browncoat1984
    May 14, 2012 at 11:54 pm |

    Okay people, I just did the math.

    According to Robert Carlyle an episode of SGU cost $2 million to make, give or take.

    According to SyFy’s ratings numbers, we can probably estimate that SGU on average had anywhere between 1-3 million viewers from season 1 to season 2.

    This number does not take into account the international viewers, or people who have discovered the series in the year since the show ended via DVD/Blu ray, Netflix, Itunes etc. or people who downloaded illegally (I hate to admit it, but I’m sure a lot did)

    If we were able to convince Brad Wright and MGM to set up a Kickstarter for donations for SGU and 1 million of SGU’s US based viewers game just $20 per person, that would be enough to fund a full 20 episode season of SGU.

    This is just a low estimate, because many kickstarters go above and beyond their projected goals. Which means that a kickstarter for SGU could make much more than $20 million dollars especially if we have fans who make a lot more money, and if lots of international fans get involved and maybe even Netflix gets interested, since I’m sure Stargate is popular on Netflix.

    I really think this could work. I don’t think except for Carlyle that SGU’s main cast have gotten heavily involved as leads on other projects, and maybe Once Upon a Time’s team would be like Castle’s team with Fillion going back to do Firefly and have no problem with Carlyle helping to finish SGU. Once IS shot in Vancouver to.

    If anything it would be more than enough for a few movies to give us better closure!

  33. Darren
    May 15, 2012 at 6:58 am |

    Browncoat, your math should come out as $40 million for 20 episodes. $40 from a million people.

    Also note that this covers only production costs and excludes everything associated with packaging, distribution, and especially marketing. It also excludes any profit for the studio and its investors.

    I’m sorry to throw cold water on the enthusiasm, but crowd-funding an existing television production (i.e. not a new start-up) is utterly impossible. For starters, if one were to promote such a thing far and wide and reach every former Stargate viewer worldwide, the number of people willing to say they’ll commit $20 to it (let alone send in the money) would probably not reach six digits. You’re thinking of hardcore fans, I think: the notion that even half of a show’s total television viewership would support crowd-funding is ludicrous.

  34. Donsta
    May 15, 2012 at 1:32 pm |

    Fan funding was tried for “Star Trek Enterprise” If I remember correctly 4 wealthy fans gave a total of 1 million dollars to jump start the giving. The fan giving didn’t reach 2 million.

  35. Rob
    May 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm |

    It’s a terrible shame that a channel called Sci-Fi (or stupidly SyFy) has such a terrible record of canning wonderful science fiction. AT least we’re all used to it by now, so don’t get as emotionally invested in TV series, so the numbers continue to suck…

  36. Lilli
    May 16, 2012 at 9:26 am |

    So do we get more reality tv? Yay, I think the networks just don’t have enough reality tv. (heavy sarc)

    I mean why care about your audience by producing quality, interesting, entertaining tv, when you can just throw out Brain-to-mush reality tv which is so much cheaper? (more heavy sarc)

    And people wonder why Hollywood is dying.

  37. 3531767
    May 19, 2012 at 10:13 pm |

    Brown coat, none of that will work, if all the fans had your energy things may be diffrent. As i stated a total boycott would send a clear message and if other shows are lost because of it well so be it. As you said , they dont care about us so with that being said the other shows you stated are on borrowed time anyway. I havent watched a single show on that channel and never plan to again. The rest of you should follow suit and send a message.

  38. taris
    May 22, 2012 at 7:11 pm |

    I canceled Comcast along with Syfy 2 1/2 years ago. I haven’t had any tv subscriptions since. I gave up on the lot of them. I haven’t missed it for a single day. I also haven’t been crushed by a canceled favorite before it’s time either nor lost brain cells flicking past a 100 channels of mindless drivel.

  39. nemesis7
    July 2, 2012 at 11:21 am |

    Lets see, Farscape, the invisible man(quicksilver), SG1, Stargate Atlantis, SGU(WAS getting better),Eureka, and Sanctuary. The list goes on and on, it seems that when a show really strikes a cord with people what does syfy do cancel it. The new BSG series Blood and Chrome cancelled before it is even produced. People love BSG but Caprica was slow to get going and they don’t give anything a chance any more. Look at Buffy it took almost 3 seasons to really get its stride but when it did it was magic. Good shows need time to develop but the Tv guys just want instant stardom . Farscape was the best show and the flag ship show of SCIFI but it was treated like a red headed stepchild. They had the same ratings all the time but since the channel was in more houses they though it should grow at the same rate. These people take nothing into consideration. Like time shifted programs. This is the 21st century people. We watch shows when we can, not just at the set time you want us to. Maybe they should see about putting a time shift chip in some of these nielson rating households and see when they are watched. Not just whats on the tv at that moment . Many houses have satellite with multiple tvs and dvrs and people watch at different times. I really think that the people who bought scyfy did it to destroy it because it was hurting their network tv shows, that no one watches. Comcast is just the new step parent that is being blamed for this new batch of cancellations. I agree they are wrong but I mean when Scyfy lost scifi fridays and put on WWE it was the bell toll for the end. I hope that someone maybe the original people who started the scifi channel will return from cryosleep somewhere and either restore this channel to its former greatness or start up a new one and begin again with shows that people want to see. Not the reality shows that are scripted and cater to the lowest common denominator(minimal cost at just enough ring to make money). BSG was a great show that ended I think to soon and was spun off into a prequel that was shaky at best. Blood and chrome seems to have a better premise but was totally cgi which means way to much cost associated with it. Get back to real tv , with real stories , ones that are complicated and intriguing. Don’t be afraid to push the envelope (look at lost it took a chance and it won, everyone tried to copy it.) But at least they tried. Stop making safe shows that cost nothing you will loose your fan base. Also I have to say this ,I think that this new show LOst girl is the biggest pile of crap I have ever seen. Sex,sex,sex and the plots and acting are as bad as they get. The guy playing a werewolf from most recent Underworld movie who was a werewolf! Please!! I know that no one at comcast or nbc or Syfy will ever read this but I just had to get this out of my system it has been tearing me apart for years. Syfy(scifi) please come back and bring the shows back we love or bring out new ones that are worth the time to get involved in. Save the money from your crappy disaster movies and these horrible reality shows and put the money into decent series . Get Drwho back, put on Star trek reruns , not everything has to be Scyfy made , you have the rights to all those old scifi shows use them. Then spend the money on good actors and talented writers to make good shows that we all can watch. YOu have old scyfy series you made and then cancelled put them on people love to watch them again, like BSG, Farscape , Stargate(all of them) Just remember who gave you the customer base you had to get where you are now, But if you don’t watch out they will leave and go somewhere else. BBc has some great scifi shows even though they cancel just as much as scyfy but at least they keep trying. Please syfy come back

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