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krdstargate
krdstargate
14 years ago

And tonight on Sex and the Stargate… Warning major spoilers…. Another week and another pointless drivel filled episode of Universe. I gave this episode a 2 because we actually saw an alien and they went through the Stargate. Now onto the episode itself. The major plot twist of this story, if you could call it that, is that Scott and Col. Young go to an ice planet to find water and …wait for it…wait for it…that’s right folks Scott falls through the ice and gets stuck. Whew I really didnt see that coming. And the Col. takes 10-15 min. meandering… Read more »

GateWhirled
GateWhirled
14 years ago

: Sooo…. you liked it then?

trip64
trip64
14 years ago

I’d have to say I agree a lot with what krdstargate says above… SGU’s episodes move at the speed of molasses. And having invested in 15 previous seasons of SG1 and SGA, I just can’t help but wonder what the producers were thinking choosing to go down this road with the new series. Was their special FX budget trimmed down to nothing? There is one set — the ship — where the characters spend 90% of their time whining about being stuck in space — and they must really be alone in this part of space, since no one in… Read more »

krdstargate
krdstargate
14 years ago

GateWhirled- “: Sooo…. you liked it then?”

you betchaa!!!!:)

universacred
universacred
14 years ago

Character development, character development, character development… Chant it like a mantra!

kimm
kimm
14 years ago

Atlantis was phenominal. It was just plain stupid to cancell it. Why not incorporate Atlantis into Universe somehow if you wont bring back ATLANTIS.

ATLANTIS rocks ! Universe is a nowhere near as good.

ticked off. Kim May in Ontario

altairantares
altairantares
14 years ago

Seriously people, I just don’t get your wacky obsession with hating SGU. Where was the drama in SGA? Excepting when an actor wanted to leave the show it was obvious that no one ever in any risk of dying, the characters in the show were perfect except for carefully defined “flaws” that were there for comedic effect. You had 15 seasons of that, and you still want more? SGU isn’t about action, killing stuff, blowing up huge honking ships, shooting thousands of aliens,etc, it’s about putting people where they shouldn’t be and then watching what happens. Stuff like that shouldn’t… Read more »

Mrja84
Mrja84
14 years ago

Yeah SGA was a good show. when the writers can’t write stories for a character they create, they just kill the off or get rid of them. They did it to Ford, Weir, etc. So many times the writers pull **** out of nowhere to get the plot moving. At least, in SGU they don’t makeup words like “Wormhole Drive” to cut corners. This cast has great chemistry in it’s first episodes than SGA had in it’s 5 seasons.

stitchprovost
stitchprovost
14 years ago

The more I watch this show, the more I dislike it. The slow pace, the whiny scientists, the 90210’esqe “character development”. I honestly find myself rooting for Rush now, as he’s the only one who seems to get what’s going on and how to prioritize things. Eli’s “character development” consists of him basically needing a kick to head and being told to grow up. And the whiny scientists, complaining about the searches: “We have rights.” Seriously? These people had been living on a military base for months before getting to the ship, and they are surprised at how things are… Read more »

Scott Watson
14 years ago

well said.

zack
zack
14 years ago

I thought WATER was an absolutely excellent episode; the best so far.
I don’t understand what Atlantis has to do with SGU. It’s hardly SGU’s fault that Atlantis was cancelled, why blame this series.
At any rate, my opinion: Water was a great episode.

Nikst
Nikst
14 years ago

@the review writer: Don’t take this the wrong way but, at least pay attention while you watch an episode before you critic it. They never told the rest of the crew about the aliens. The only people who knew about them were Rush, Eli, TJ and some of the military personal (maybe all of the military personal) and all of them were under orders not to say anything to anybody about them. And the military personal have probably encountered alien life form before so they acted pretty convincing. Most were professional and one of them acted out of fear (the… Read more »

Orion Coran
Orion Coran
14 years ago

Interesting review, although I disagree with the reviewer on some parts.

Personally, I believe ‘Light’ had some great character moments and I didn’t find it as predictable. I knew the ship would fly near the star to replenish it’s reserves, but no way thought it would dive into it!

‘Water’ had some nice moments, but it didn’t keep me on my seat like ‘Light’ did. Still a decent episode though.

russcan2
russcan2
14 years ago

I love all things Stargate so I was very excited to hear that there was going to be a new Stargate show. So far I am less than impressed. I’m all for new and improved and such, but its time to get back to the basics. Stargate has always been about meeting new races and epic adventures through the Stargate. It has never been about drama or sex or being whiny little girls. This stargate is a little too dark and a little too gritty. If gritty is what stargate fans wanted we would watch Battlestar Galactica or Lost. Stargate… Read more »

US06154
US06154
14 years ago

So.. Nikst, Orion Coran.. Having second thoughts/ Doubts about how brilliant SGU is? just asking, as I am interested in an objective opinion. Even Tanith has toned down her vocal ra-ra-sis-boom-bah flag waving, standing in front of the SGU flag with her hand over her heart :) LOL!! (yeah I’m just kidding..)

krdstargate
krdstargate
14 years ago

“As for “Sex and the Stargate” Seriously? You’ve got to be kidding. This is the real world. I’m probably more religious than 90% of the people here, and I can deal with it, why is there this childish “Iwww!!!! Look what she’s doing!!!!!”? I certainly don’t agree morally that the characters are doing it, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s realistic.” You took what I said too literally, I dont mind sex in tv shows, although if I am going to watch a show for sex, then the nipple needs to make its appearance:) I really dont care… Read more »

nkilbourn
nkilbourn
14 years ago

This show has soo much potential! It is really lacking right now… but I think SGA started out how should I say not slow, just that it really took me a while to get into it and like it. I hope this works out that way too. And what is up with the sex, WE DON’T NEED SEX ON STARGATE!!!!!!!! PERIOD, please stop… I know most of this season is already made but if the other episodes are anything like what water was, it was just thrown in there. It’s not too late to edit that useless sex scene out.… Read more »

krdstargate
krdstargate
14 years ago

@Mrja84 At least, in SGU they don’t makeup words like “Wormhole Drive” to cut corners. This cast has great chemistry in it’s first episodes than SGA had in it’s 5 seasons. This is sci fi. The reason why I watch sci fi is to here words like Wormhole drive. If you dont like hearing words like that, there is always gossip girl or grey’s anatomy. As for your second statement, that is simply laughable. The reason why SG-1 and SGA were so enjoyable is because the chemistry was so great. I really have not seen any chemistry on this show… Read more »

Nikst
Nikst
14 years ago

@US06154: Well if your asking if I think less of the show now then when it started, then NO. I actually think its getting better and better. The comment I made about Eli is not a critisism toward the writers, its toward Eli the character. Is the show perfect? No its not. Was SG1 and SGA perfect? Hell no, far from it. But a tv show doesnt need to be perfect for me to like it. I loved SG1 and SGA. SGU is getting there, but we have only had 6 episodes so far so Im holding on the final… Read more »

russcan2
russcan2
14 years ago

It seems that there are too many characters running around not doing anything. They have made Chloe into a whiny bimbo, who, again, doesn’t do anything….well except for whine. Rush is a little bit too much of jerk. I’m all for conflict but you at least have to make the character likeable, at least a teeny little bit. I mean McKay was jerk but you still liked the guy….sometimes…..

canonfodder
canonfodder
14 years ago

@krdstargate I think they (he/she) meant that Wormhole drive was never mentioned before that episode. something that big you’d think that Mckay would have had a computer screen with it on, or a passing mention of him working on something that will make him the genius of the world or something. I really thought this was the weakest of all the episodes so far. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed it… It’s just it wasn’t as gripping as the last few. Curiously, would anyone else consider the crystalline entity episode (forgot the name of it) in Season 1 of SG1… Read more »

J-Whitt987
J-Whitt987
14 years ago

@ nkilbourn “And what is up with the sex, WE DON’T NEED SEX ON STARGATE!!!!!!!! PERIOD, please stop… I know most of this season is already made but if the other episodes are anything like what water was, it was just thrown in there. It’s not too late to edit that useless sex scene out. You can show character affection w/out showing sex.”

What episode were you watching? There wasn’t any sex in this episode. None that I saw anyway. I saw Scott and Chloe making out but that was it. Making out and sex are two COMPLETELY different actions.

Scott Watson
14 years ago

Haven’t seen a “sex scene” since the first episode myself, sex was implied but not really seen in light and it was just kissing in Water. Also just to note that there hasn’t been any nudity. Like others have already said this shows realism.

I agree though that some are saying that the sex scenes makes SGU not a show for the kids but how was getting shot at, tortured, life sucked out of them etc suitable for kids?

AscendedTauri
AscendedTauri
14 years ago

While “Light” was a more solid episode, I LOVE this show!

LONG LIVE SGU!

Jagard
Jagard
14 years ago

I don’t know why, but I enjoyed Water more than previous episodes. That’s not to say that I would rate it as being good, but it was at least a 5 or 6 until the end, then the score nosedived to about a 3. Personally I think that if they had killed off Scott and let the sliced-up redshirt live, it would have conveyed a sense that no main character was safe, but alas that crevasse ex machina just had to release him and firmly establish the main character shields of the cast. Oh well. I’ll keep watching to the… Read more »

solar1971
solar1971
14 years ago

I agree that this show has a lot of potential. Destiny can hide so many secrets. How much of the ship have they actually explored? Like Atlantis, the ship must have an infirmary or a food processor or something to make the crew’s lives a little easier! Give them a better chance for survival. How about use the communication stones to contact Dr. McKay so he can get some the ship’s systems working again? Teach Rush and Eli how to fix the ship. Can Destiny become sentient? Interact with the crew like an ancient? I would like to see an… Read more »

nemesis88417
nemesis88417
14 years ago

To all the naysayers out there. Dont watch the show if you dont like it. I for one think SGU is great. Sure its not SG-1 or SGA but its still an awesome show. These characters were not meant to be where they are and as such are out of their depth. This makes for great drama. As for those that complain about the age of some of the characters have a good hard look at what you really know about the military. Most LT’s such as SCOTT are somewhere between the ages of 20-25. He’s a relatively new and… Read more »

JorgeJ
JorgeJ
14 years ago

People here still believe this show is the same as the previous ones. Ive seen them both and got bored of the formula (so did audiences) so try to enjoy something different! I for one am enjoying this show 10 times more than atlantis or the last season of sg1

blagwedge
blagwedge
14 years ago

While not the best episode yet, still thoroughly enjoyable though. The pace is obviousley different to the shows that have come before, but i really think that benefits SGU, i dont want to watch character development for the sake of it (this isnt Greys Anatomy after all), but it all feels justified here. Plus, since the cast are great, i WANT to know about these characters and their motivations. Towards the end (and especially in the finale) of Atlantis, i frequently felt like too much gratuitus action was being inserted at the expense of story telling, that is not happening… Read more »

US06154
US06154
14 years ago

.. LOL!!, actually I can’t bash something I don’t watch anymore.. Hold On, just before “someone” ignorantly asks me “then what are you doing here”, Well, Gateworld is not only about SGU.. there’s other shows as well. I am always curious as to how true my predictions were, So I “observe” (I do hate using the word lurk), as to what’s happening to the show. it’s interesting to read all the comments. My Friday Night show is Bones and Dollhouse now. Stargate Fridays are gone for good. :)

jjs
jjs
14 years ago

As someone who is less than thrilled with SGU I want to address all the SGU lovers. I completely understand why many people love SGU and I am not here to try to convince you otherwise. The show has many good things in it and if you were bored with the previous formula for Stargate shows then this show has a step in a good direction. But for many of us who have followed Stargate for 15 years this show is not the direction we want to see Stargate go. And the fact Atlantis was canceled to make room for… Read more »

Discosis
Discosis
14 years ago

I thought Light was a stronger episode, but I enjoyed Water. The effects work on the planet was pretty good.

Can’t believe noone’s mentioned the ancient space suit designs … they kicked ass (and were a little Halo-ish, too).

Scott Watson
14 years ago

I understand that there are those who don’t like it, can see the differences between SGU and its predecessors and some may not be into the new direction its taken. Need to keep in mind though that the majority of those who like SGU and are posting on these articles were also people who have been fans of the franchise for 15 years. This isn’t exclusive to those who don’t like it. The people on the Destiny are not meant to be the best of the best. There the wrong people (Which Col Young has mentioned a few times) and… Read more »

Scott Watson
14 years ago

p.s naysayers read this

Christopher
Christopher
14 years ago

Jonah Hill is Eli Wallace. It’s so blatantly apparent how they came up with this lame character. So annoying! This show is crap so far. If you don’t want to hear how crappy this show is then ignore my post. How about that!?!

zackwbrandon
zackwbrandon
14 years ago

@Scott Watson Read the blog and the commentary. Sad to hear that ignorance on the part of commentators is getting so out of hand. Especially that the actors are being targeted when they are actually really awesome at what they are doing! However I’m equally disturbed that the showrunners instinct is to only listen to the positive and to dispute the negative comments – ignoring the vicious comments I support wholly. Joe Mallozzi is an artist and since art is a creation I can understand being defensive, but rejecting the notion that fans might actually know what they want/don’t want… Read more »

krdstargate
krdstargate
14 years ago

@jjs you hit it out of the park!!! I agree with you completely. I would also like to add, that people who criticized my posts seem to think that I am some puritanical radical who cannot stand to see nudity, sex or physical intimacy of any kind on screen or in sci fi. That is not true. I can appreciate intimacy if it is done right. A good example of this is Firely, which is regarded as one of the best sci fi shows ever, despite its short run. Anyone who has watched Firefly knows that there is quite a… Read more »

tkme
tkme
14 years ago

Acturally bothered to register on here to make a comment for once…I’m an avid sci-fi fan like most seem to be here. I can understand the show’s producers/writers wanting to do something different with Stargate, but the way their doing SGU diviates so much from what Stargate has been that it’s not very entertaining to watch anymore. This last episode Water is/was so boring…I mean yea we get that these ppl aren’t supposed to be there and they’re the wrong ppl in the wrong place… Basically it seems to be that the writers and using the Stargate franchise to write… Read more »

tkme
tkme
14 years ago

If they have these space suits why don’t they try to access other parts of the ship with them.

Scott Watson
14 years ago

the majority of us who like SGU were fans of the Stargate franchise for a very long time aswell (Like I said before that isn’t exclusive to those who don’t like it).

Regarding the spacesuits they only just got 2 ready, there is no crucial need to access other parts of the ship right away. They may in the future when they don’t have more important things to think about: such as water. And when they get more suits in working condition.

dmoas
dmoas
14 years ago

@jjs -O’Neill and Sheppard both were known for doing things against orders, their careers were full of things that I’m sure were things like Scott does. Now, granted they also have/had a history of success too, but remember, Jack was chosen originally less about his merits and more about his willingness to die. -Rodney always yelled at the military personnel with little to no repercussions. Why should you expect Rush to be treated differently? The only real difference I see is the CO isn’t stepping in and pushing his authority, but he has a lot more to deal with than… Read more »

jonnyb57
jonnyb57
14 years ago

I wish that people would get away from the idea that the producers of Stargate decided to create Universe instead of Atlantis. When SGA came up for renewal, it was made clear that Sy Fy didn’t want a fluffy, glossy “alien of the week speaks english” series. You need to look around you and smell the coffee. They wanted a grittier, more realistic show with multiple story arcs and deeper character development because that’s what is selling right now. The glossy, camp, rubber alien of the week show is a formula that’s been going on since the sixties and it’s… Read more »

shaq33
shaq33
14 years ago

why is everyone that likes this show is as slow as the show? Why does everyone think that since we like SG1 and SGA and didn’t like the idea that this show is based more on Drama, and charcter devlepment and not no story acr that we don’t get what the show is about? News flash we know what the show is about, we just didn’t like the new direction, and after watching we don’t like what is going on, not becase just becase of the constant whining bad acting and wrting not becase it is more of drama based,… Read more »

Scott Watson
14 years ago

that seriously would of sounded more compelling if you had ran it through a spellchecker.

Like others have said: If you don’t like it, don’t watch its that simple.

caelestes
caelestes
14 years ago

I was wondering about the water situation. I had got the impression that they had lost a very significant amount of water, that one or two trips for blocks of ice would not be enough. Perhaps this will be addressed in the next episode or so. Anyway, this show is a propaganda machine. It is a conspiracy. Infidels have taken over the network. The name change says it all. SciFi-SyFy. AHh, Dr. Rush said the ship was sent out hundreds of thousands of years ago, even though the Ancients left Earth millions of years ago. The Ancients never created the… Read more »

redfox000
redfox000
14 years ago

– EXACTLY! Well said.

ictus75
ictus75
14 years ago

So far SGU is turning out to be everything SGA failed to be. While I loved SGA, the biggest mistake they made in the series was when they reestablished a physical link back to earth. I thought things were much more exciting when they were cut off and on their own. When it became a “we’re just waiting for a ship to bring us more supplies” thing, I feel they lost a key element of the show. SGU, other than the alien body switching device, has the team completely cut off from Earth and on their own. Yea! I loved… Read more »

shaq33
shaq33
14 years ago

@Scott Watson is that really all you have to say, I spell badly, just like this like the show leaves out the important details, and concentrait on the boring ones, I can’t spell whoptydo you just figured out the atom bomb, guess what I know am a bad spelling and a typer, very origan great I really haven’t heard that before, just like the show very origanl, all SGU fans the first thing they comment on is my splling they are just as orginal and consitstan consistantly bad as the show they love so much. Robots anyone just becase it… Read more »

shaq33
shaq33
14 years ago

@ictus75 and all SGU fans. it really is amazing to me how delusinal SGU fans really are (stop it shaq33 bad speller shame on you really really shame, guess what I don’t care :-) that am a bad speller if I did I would even try to fix it) they talk about things that were bad on Atlantis but they excuse it on SGU. 1. They are sick of middeavel village locations, and on SG1 forests location guess we didn’t like them so much eather, but guess what how many locations have we had so far on SGU or how… Read more »

shaq33
shaq33
14 years ago

loooooooooooooooooool, that first person i heard that likes this show with any sence of realy humar.