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  1. TW
    TW
    (40 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 4:22 pm |

    I don’t know about the whole ticking clock. But it sounds great especially the Atlantis on the moon part. I also say that even we can’t get this Fandemonium’s legacy series is a somewhat good substitute. WIsh we had the movie

  2. Sylvia
    Sylvia
    (594 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm |

    In before the naysayers. Whatever gets them back to Pegasus where they belong is all good in my eyes. And this is just the opening scene or two, the main action and storyline is yet to be revealed.

  3. mattyp
    mattyp
    (1 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 4:34 pm |

    Well here are the naysayers. That is a crap idea. Its just a big reset button. Frankly if this is the best writers can come up with, then im glad the film wasn’t made. I’d rather read the legacy series.

  4. Leif
    (2 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 4:49 pm |

    Well, I guess this explains why the Ancients couldn’t just take Atlantis with them when they left, although I’m not sure what logic is behind putting a safeguard in place, just in the off chance someone took the entire city outside of the Galaxy. Never mind that is can be moved to another planet in a different solar system.

    Still, sounds like it would have been a good movie though, sad that it didn’t happen.

  5. kook916
    kook916
    (23 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 5:06 pm |

    man… i want to slap the $**t out of someone at mgm for discontinuing the sg franchise

  6. darob
    darob
    (5 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm |

    Didnt Atlantis take off from Antartica in the 1st episode? surely it must be capable of recognizing where it returned to (relitivly!!)

  7. wraithkelso
    wraithkelso
    (94 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm |

    @kook916, how about averyone at MGM and SYFY that contributed to Stargate’s demise?

  8. peterhignett
    peterhignett
    (7 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 5:23 pm |

    Not the best of ideas really. I liked the fact Atlantis was back where it should be. Just send Teyla and Ronan home and forget about the Wraith.

  9. meo3000
    meo3000
    (19 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 6:01 pm |

    Thats bad. It doesn’t even make sense.

    First, why put that kind of safeguard, the gate only accepted incoming wormholes from Earth but now the explorers cant take it back to its original planet? If you know humans are coming back in 10,000 years, then you must assume there a good chance they’ll try to bring back the city to Earth, or at least their galaxy. I know, the Wraith could’ve take control of Atlantis at any moment in that period, develop a gene therapy of their own, find Earth location and fly it there someone. But you program the self-destruct to activate when the city detects Wraiths “living” in the city, not the city location in space. Thats just stupid.

    Second, the ZPMs were most certainly not entirely drained in the battle with the super-hive, but that, on top of the wormhole-drive trip and Earth reentry, i would guess at least one if not two are depleted (remember the 3 were not new to start with). And then you go and fire up the star-drive again to park it on the moon where it needs it shields 24/7. Whats the point? Keep it on Earth somewhere remote were no planes and almost no ship ever goes. You have the cloak for the occasional visitor. Put a satellite in geosynchronous orbit to scramble “spy” satellite signals and voila! If Earth is attacked, the base of operation is 365,000 to 405,000 kilometers away, thats stupid! Can the Atlantis chair control the Antarctic drones from that far? Are the drones still in Antarctica or were moved with the chair to Area 51 (so basically destroyed too)? Or used to refill Atlantis? Also the working gate is on Atlantis, meaning in the event of a catastrophic situation, only the people there could be evacuated to another planet, that too is stupid. Might as well put it on Mars.

    Im disappointed in the writers imagination… again.

  10. rosey_angel
    rosey_angel
    (6 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 6:59 pm |

    I don’t know about everyone else, but as soon as I read that the self destruct could only be stopped by going to Atlantis, I got the feeling that it’s something that Rodney set up. He wants to go back and finish his work there, not to mention helping out Ronon, so he rigged a self destruct.

  11. ace_love
    ace_love
    (77 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 7:02 pm |

    Well with that description i’m glad it was axed

  12. Sylvia
    Sylvia
    (594 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 7:16 pm |

    My theory is that Todd did it. He’s probably in need of a snack by now.

  13. zack
    zack
    (80 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 7:59 pm |

    It does sound like a great story and would have undoubtedly served as an incredible introduction to a deserved 6th season that it would have received assuredly on any other station than Scifi now SYFY/Reality. My only hope, and it’s a very slim one, is that Comcast, new owners of all that conglomerate that includes what was the Scifi station, somehow have some intelligence, but it’s doubtful.

  14. StArGaTeFaN
    StArGaTeFaN
    (8 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 9:11 pm |

    this is crazy why tease us with details of a movie that may never see the light of day??
    also its clear that the creators of StarGate want to continue the story perhaps in some other form of media so why dont they just create a website and do webisodes where the members can subscribe to the site and watch a small advertisement just before the webisode begins or maybe even charge a small membership fee aswell if they did this and made the site global im pretty sure they would be able to make more than enuff money from just the advertisers alone as well as the money they would make from subscribed members it would be nice if the creators of StarGate could be persuaded to do this
    sorry if it seems like i went a little of topic its just that i hate that it seems StarGate is gonna eventually fade into obscurity :(

  15. LoneMerc2
    LoneMerc2
    (14 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 9:20 pm |

    I really liked the premise, I can actually see the Ancients placing a safe guard like that; the Ancients loved their safe guards! This would have been a fantastic film, I feel sick to think that a season 6 to Atlantis was actually in consideration at some point, now look at the franchise! A season 6 was probably the best bet at the time, shame it didn’t happen.

    Although anything Stargate related to me is gold, even the books that aren’t considered the ‘real’ deal, it is still Stargate material that keeps the name going. Heres to hoping MGM decide to do the films or hell ANYthing Stargate!

  16. armagosa
    armagosa
    (1 comments)
    June 8, 2011 at 11:14 pm |

    My guess is that the presence of Todd on the city ship triggers some kind of failsafe put in place in case the Wraith ever make it to Earth.

  17. grif
    grif
    (131 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 12:01 am |

    why?

  18. mj
    mj
    (1 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 12:06 am |

    This seem to be a very interesting plot and would tie up some questions in the storyline. I was always curious to way the ancients would just abandon Atlantis on the ocean foor instead of flying it back to Earth. In the episode with Dr. Weir going back in time to meet the ancients, it seemed from that episode the ancient had three ZPMs to power the city back to Earth. I always waited for an explanation in the storyline for this. I hope Mr. Mallozzi will give further explanation to why the ancients put in the self-distruct and why the ancients did not just turn it off.

  19. JoeTheDragon
    JoeTheDragon
    (24 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 12:23 am |

    Comcast may just marge chiller, syfy or maybe G4 and syfy.

    UFC is rumored to be buying G4

    Comcast will likely may a big sports push soon. Maybe the WWE will be pulled from syfy and ninja warrior moved as well. web soup was on syfy not that long ago. chiller shows stuff that used be on syfy and movies.

    But syfy likely will have the NHL and Olympics on starting in 2012. Or comcast may if they keep g4 put wwe or any other big event on it just to force directv to put it back on air.

  20. charmedstargate
    charmedstargate
    (30 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 2:10 am |

    This is just teasing now! I really would of loved to see this play out even more to see it continue into season 6. Lost city and a lost dream now :(

  21. Saquist
    Saquist
    (42 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 2:22 am |

    That was super lame.
    That self destruct should have initiated as soon as it left the Galaxy. Wow…these writers can’t help being bad. I’m now glad SGA ended when it did. They clearly intended to SG-SINK the Series.

  22. katikatnik
    katikatnik
    (261 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 3:20 am |

    Hm, what about the wormhole drive, the deus ex machina the writers came up with in the series finale? Or should it have been more of a political than technical problem, the return, I mean?

    Eh, I’m not really feeling it. SGA’s my favorite of the SG shows but the “OMG, we’re going to self-destruct!” thing is a dead horse beaten twice over. I’m not saying that the final product couldn’t have been a nice surprise and totally engaging but… eh.

    I would’ve preferred if Sheppard and Co. kidnapped the city because of something that was happening in the Pegasus galaxy, something the Earth dignitaries refused to help with. I always wanted to see the show end with Atlantis declaring independency and breaking off all ties with Earth – the Earth thing has always been a crutch for the writers, IMHO. That would’ve given the writers character material enough to explore – who stays, who goes, who’s with them, who would tell on them? – and new, great frontiers to explore.

  23. padraigcorcoran
    padraigcorcoran
    (1 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 7:13 am |

    Perfect… Ancient’s safeguard its needed if the wreath get the city. i miss stargate :( how else to you get the city back in pegasus

  24. scaper
    scaper
    (2 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 7:23 am |

    Wow a self destruct alarm.. Seriously. your telling me that 2 guys that are paid to sit and come up with a story couldnt come up with anything more original??? At any point would anyone have asked why didnt this happen as soon as we left the pegasus galaxy… why how ever many months its been… Or is Atlantis’s computers still spinning in there graves from the whole “wormhole drive” concept..

    Why dont they just have the pegasus galaxy being invaded by a species of aliens that take human hosts and are now claiming to be the “ancestors” and enslaving the human populations there.. Forget the Wraith all together. Oh yea season 6 would have been incredible.. They always had the replicators and the evil asgard to fall back on..

    But no High 5 guys great job… What a shame we’re not going to see this gem.

    If this story is going to become a book or graphic novel or something do us all a favour and bin the story, sit down for more than five minutes and work out a stronger, more interesting one…. For the love of thor please..

  25. karel51
    karel51
    (6 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 9:53 am |

    I agree with katikatnik.

  26. silurian
    silurian
    (11 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 10:43 am |

    Sam Carter? Again? Yawn. I’m actually less pissed this didn’t get made now. I wasn’t fond of the character on SG1 and I hated her and her sneery, superior attitude on SGA. It feels a bit better knowing we probably wouldn’t have got “our” SGA back even if it had been greenlit.

  27. hithere
    hithere
    (18 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 11:51 am |

    The story seems a bit silly. While I’d happily watch anything stargate, I’m glad this wasn’t made. We know from Before I Sleep we know the Ancients had no plans for the city. Why would they do this? And who would they try to prevent taking Atlantis from Pegasus?

  28. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 1:46 pm |

    The stories for Extinction/Revolution don’t really get me too excited. Yes, both tales are stories that SHOULD be told to get Atlantis back to Pegasus and reveal the Stargate program…but I was afraid of this, plot-lines that seem rather “been-there, done that” but unfortunately a lot of Sci-fi is like that today, its just hard to find original plot ideas that hasn’t been done before on Star Trek or other shows.

    Still, I would have liked to see this, SG-1 and the SGU movies being made to at least give us some better closer to the franchise. They could have first done the Atlantis movie to get Atlantis back to Pegasus, then the SGU movie to finish off SGU’s storyline followed by Revolution to reveal the Stargate movie. Iw ould’ve totally been down with that.

  29. domdom
    domdom
    (45 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

    As I suspected Sheppard character seem to have disappeared of Atlantis.How could they expect for success forgetting one of the most popular character of the show?:(
    BTW I won’t like to get it in other format like comic book instead of TV screen or DVD.
    Bad idea.

  30. Sealurk
    Sealurk
    (9 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 6:35 pm |

    I hate to say it, but having read what Stargate Revolution would have been about and what TPTB had planned for Stargate Atlantis…for the first time I think somebody at MGM was actually being very sensible and foresighted. Eesh these sound bad. Self-destruct, really? I like Katikatnik’s idea of stealing Atlantis better than this!

  31. gatelady
    gatelady
    (10 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 6:57 pm |

    I guess my question is…At this point..What IS the point?

  32. EryasDax
    EryasDax
    (49 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 7:28 pm |

    A novel would have been nice; until the Legacy series was announced. I have read #1 and am starting #2 and am enjoying them.

    Unless the show was brought back “officially,” I will continue to get my fix from novels (both audio books and the Fandemonium’s novels). :)

  33. upperdeckhr
    upperdeckhr
    (3 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 8:34 pm |

    Yeah, not a great plot device to get Atlantis home. As previously pointed out, Atlantis has been to earth before. The Legacy series has a much more thought out and interesting way of getting Atlantis back to Pegasus.

  34. Konrad
    Konrad
    (9 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm |

    Sounds like a great episode, but a terrible movie. I don’t mean to say it wouldn’t have been an enjoyable movie, but it’s clearly a TV episode plot. Where’s the villain? :/

  35. puddlejumper_1
    puddlejumper_1
    (71 comments)
    June 9, 2011 at 10:34 pm |

    We should have gotten these movies back in 08-09. Its nice Mallozi is trying to help rid the cliffhangers with spoilers, but these “teasers” are getting me rilled up for something that with a 99% chance won’t happen(on-screeen). Stargate is such a great show, its very inspirational. It makes people want to get out there and invent something or pursue something. How is Teen Wolf, Quantum Kitchen, or any other of this realtiy tv crap inspirational? ITS NOT! It spits in my face, and when the Imagine Greater follows up after their commercials, that is like someone giving me the finger. Join the fight. Join the 54,000 strong http://www.facebook.com/SaveSGU

  36. Crayg
    Crayg
    (10 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 12:03 am |

    So we’re supposed to believe that it was more technologically feasible to move Atlantis back to Pegasus rather than to shut off a self-destruct?

  37. Joe Friday
    Joe Friday
    (50 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 3:38 am |

    I think I remember at the end of SG: Continuum, Sam mentioned that she was working on a new moonbase program.

  38. mazey
    mazey
    (16 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 3:54 am |

    i had a different idea, atlantis still on earth they prepared a data xfer to copy the database they always go on about to earths computers and it initiated a self destruct, who goes to the moon these days there is nothing but rocks there, rocks dont look that much greater in hd. and your thinking how can they stop it.. well a massive battle fleet of lucian alliance heads to earth and in one last bold effort they use atlantis self destruct to take out the fleet with 1 hell of a bang.. meanwhile back of earth they call it a day and realise they just grabbed most the database and what wonders they will find..

  39. theevil
    theevil
    (1 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 11:20 am |

    Next time you guys meet up with the directors can you please ask how and where ZPMs and drones are made!!?? It’s literally driving me crazy!!! Lol

  40. Atlantislov
    Atlantislov
    (37 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm |

    I hate to say this because I love SGA, but this sounds like it’s going to be another McKay saves the day thing. I would rather they just make the movie’s about SGA base on the Legacy series.

  41. darrick.moreno
    darrick.moreno
    (2 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 3:57 pm |

    Yawn, you can see why SGA was cancelled. Season six would have been a snoozefest. For starters, what the heck is a self destruct be doing on Atlantis if not only to destroy it to save it’s secrets from the Wraith? It was a war that apparently wasn’t worth more casualties from the Ancients back then, so it would ONLY make sense that, the self destruct would apply if that were the case. However, in continuity of the storyline, didn’t you have to have an ancient gene to even access the systems of Atlantis in order to even make the bold move to fly the city back to Earth of all things? I am getting foggy remembering who it was that flew Atlantis to Earth anyway, but seriously, the Wraith may have been a formidable enemy, more annoying like a disturbed bee hive, but after the events with the ORI (ascended beings of the same race as the Ancients), why oh why, with the knowledge and wisdom of these great people seem to go backwards in design? What are you talking about, sir? Well, Destiny and crew, apparently on a space cruiser a billion or so light years away from existence, can ward off Drone Baddies (which in my opinion are far worse an enemy than Bug Induced Vampires)and created to find the microwave vibrations of the Universe so they could piece together a message or directional marker from the all mighty creator, as we are told that this tech predated Atlantis. The design of the gate itself on Destiny is even different. They build seed ships that are completely unmanned and yet is loaded up with any and every iron or ore or whatever to make it, in a production line like ship, for millions of years without stopping for supplies (wish my refrigerator could do that). See what I mean, these pests, the Wraith, would have been Swiss Cheese by now had the Ancients been just slightly smarter than they were around Atlantis time. They reverse evolved towards their ascension days days or they were too tired or trifled by their own existence. That is why a self destruct sequence of events on SGA-Excrement (Extinction) would only play out as a, yawn, dream sequence filler episode that Rodney was having after discovering that his parallel self from the dementia world had married Carter. I am surprised this idea was even something to be proud of, let alone it just doesn’t make ANY sense. Sorry. What would have been good is, BRING BACK SGU AND GIVE US A FRICKIN CONCLUSION THAT ROCKS, NO EXCUSES, NO FINGER POINTING AND NOOOOOOOOOOOO DRAMA! Didn’t your momma tell you anything is possible when you put your mind to it? Goes for you too MGM. Frack SYFY and DO IT YOURSELF and get those actors back before we Red Faction your butt! Peace

  42. Atlantislov
    Atlantislov
    (37 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 4:18 pm |

    @darrick.moreno
    They don’t need syfy to make a SGU movie it’s up to mgm. The only thing I would point out to you is this if you thought this movie idea for SGA sounds like a snoozefest(I don’t think it sounds great too, Love SGA thou). These are the same writers that write for sgu what do you think that movie would be like.

  43. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    June 10, 2011 at 9:16 pm |

    @Atlantislove at the same time, I’d say these are also the same writers that gave us SGU season 2, the best season of Stargate since SG-1 ended IMO. Still, I think its time we get in some fresh blood to produce new ideas. Would be nice to get some writers who actually delivered what they promised instead of building it up only to have a poor execution of it (remember that All-female team that was supposed to play a huge part in Atlantis season 5, only to be killed off in one episode? And then there’s Carter and how poorly she was handled. I wanted to see her having issues adjusting to commanding a small city, instead she just becomes a “yes-woman” for the team. They draw out these plots, they promote them and when it comes time to deliver on what they’ve promised it usually turns out to be a big let-down.

    Yes, SGU was a different series, but if you’ve been with Stargate for a long time and have learned how these writers work, it really isn’t, its the same show with a different tone but the same problems with the writing are there, plus new ones that come from them trying new things and failing (I’m looking at you, Life).

  44. GMarsack
    GMarsack
    (13 comments)
    June 11, 2011 at 8:23 pm |

    Pass on this story. I love SGA (my fav. series) but ticking clock, as other have said, have been done to death (“zombies have been done to death – no pun intended” – ep. 200 sg1).

    Instead, it would be nice for the writers to use Atlantis is some way to help the SGU team, say perhaps use the Wormhole drive to find Destiny (and lots of story along the way). Imagine seeing destiny dock with Atlantis.. Now that would be awesome. This would enable the writers to save two series at once in one shot, as a movie or something.

  45. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    June 11, 2011 at 9:33 pm |

    @GMarsack I wonder if that was sort of their plan with their movie that would use elements from all three. Finish SGU’s story, bring Atlantis back to Pegasus and reveal the Stargate program. What a great way to leave the franchise once its goes on break!

  46. puddlejumper_1
    puddlejumper_1
    (71 comments)
    June 12, 2011 at 12:31 am |

    @GMarsack I agree about there be a ticking time clock or bomb. To me it doesnt make sense. Earth was the Ancients “alpha site” or sanctuary. Why would a self destruct intiate if its on a course there? Anyways this script was done before SGU hit the screen and was made to tie up the cliffhangers from the last episode, so a conncection to SGU wouldnt make sense(except if the Odysesy’s secret mission was to protect Iccarus Base during construction). Even though this movie’s plot is kinda weird, I still would have loved for it to come out than have nothing at all. I bet it be one heck of a movie!

  47. Mr. Oragahn
    Mr. Oragahn
    (12 comments)
    June 12, 2011 at 3:29 pm |

    “Well, I guess this explains why the Ancients couldn’t just take Atlantis with them when they left, although I’m not sure what logic is behind putting a safeguard in place, just in the off chance someone took the entire city outside of the Galaxy. Never mind that is can be moved to another planet in a different solar system.”

    Yeah because those who put that safeguard into place could possibly not know how to deactivate it.
    And funny how it just went on so late.
    Ah, if only it had been on from the moment it left the galaxy, we’d have been spared that abysmal SGA finale and perhaps given something more thought provoking than another invasion of Earth with a near-teraton explosion above our planet that no one noticed… again.
    :/

    Funny how their excuse to bring Atlantis back to Pegasus is another piece of technology. I guess that “people” just don’t count and are too hard to write. What about Pegasus natives deserve Atlantis more than we do? What about we essentially stole it? What about the Genii owning it in fact?
    Yay for Terran/US imperialism. Never get enough of it.

    The whole idea is absurd. If you happen to move the city out of Pegasus, and for some reason get stuck while you’re still good guys… I guess that city still blows up?

    Now, that whole cheap excuse would have been VERY good IF it was actually used to destroy Atlantis once and for all.

  48. Atlantislov
    Atlantislov
    (37 comments)
    June 12, 2011 at 9:26 pm |

    @Browncoat1984
    I not a sgu fan, but I would read the comments made by the fans and thought it sounds like your getting the same kind of treatment the SGA fans got by the writers. And by that I mean not delivering on great stories all the time.

    I agree with you I always thought it was crazy to bring in the old writers to the new series, because I always felt like at some point the old writers would do you like they did SGA and blow chances to do really good stories.

    Like the one you pointed out about the all female team that was blown. Also what about the ep. the Queen I thought they could have told us so much more about the wraith and did not. Also I think they took the cop out way when they made this kanaan guy Teyla baby father I would have made Micheal the father I think they could have gotten a lot more interesting stories out of that.

    I could see that SGU had the makings of something great, but I agree that like with SGA they just could not pull it off completly. I think the writers of the Legacy series could do a better job.

    One more thing I would have love to have seen an ep written by Joss Wheldon. I think it one have been one of the most amazing ep that SGA would have ever had, and maybe the writers would have tried to match his standards in writing.

  49. jwillis84
    jwillis84
    (34 comments)
    June 13, 2011 at 3:25 am |

    Awesome

    City’s in Flight for it’s Life quite literally.

    Once it makes it back and beats the whole truancy wrap it would be cool to contemplate where they would go.

    I’d hope it was back to Lantea.

  50. pmartin1
    pmartin1
    (15 comments)
    June 13, 2011 at 2:23 pm |

    Would really have liked to see something like the wraith somehow making it to Milky Way and heading to Earth. Atlantis saves the galaxy, deem it too dangerous for the city to stay in the Milky Way and head back to Pegasus. Once back in Pegasus they should establish a coalition of friendly Pegasus worlds to bring the city back to its former glory, rather than rely on earth for supplies and reinforcements.

    To those asking about the two gates, since the gates use the constellations of their respective galaxies to connect to the gate network, you wouldn’t be able to dial out with the Atlantis gate. It would pretty much be useless for outgoing travel (unless Sam or Rodney could come up with a way to trick the city’s DHD into accepting Milky Way addresses).

  51. Tekrelm
    Tekrelm
    (20 comments)
    June 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm |

    My first reaction to the synopsis was “…uh?”

    The reason behind the self-destruct is that they have to get back to Pegasus? Preposterous. Even if it ends up being McKay or Todd or someone else who’s actually behind it with an ulterior motive, it just doesn’t stand; who in Atlantis would believe it? Who in Atlantis would be smart enough to be behind it and yet dumb enough to come up with that excuse? It’s ridiculous.

    Maybe it was just a first draft…? I’ll give the writers more credit than to think that’s what they were ultimately going to settle on. I don’t remember the writing on either of the shows ever being quite as silly; I know they’re better than this.

  52. matrix41
    matrix41
    (3 comments)
    June 13, 2011 at 6:12 pm |

    @meo3000
    You took the words right out of my mouth. There are so many plot holes in that idea that it’s not even funny. It’s just awful.

  53. KlaxxonBlue
    KlaxxonBlue
    (2 comments)
    June 14, 2011 at 9:54 am |

    Oh wow…. It just keeps getting worse. :( The writers for this show really have started to slip. Enemy at the Gate was bad enough, but a self destruct that was triggered by Atlantis being removed from Pegasus? The ancients were really that attached to the Atlantis Remaining in Pegasus? Thanks, but no thanks on this movie idea.

  54. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    June 15, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

    It’s amazing to me how much people assume. Given only the tiniest tidbit of the story, so many have decided they know and understand the entire story. I’m not saying it would be good just that there’s not enough here to make an assessment either way. Every episode of an action-based tv show is a ticking clock episode in some form. It may not always be an actual ticking clock, but the idea is always the same. And yes it would have ended with one or more of our ‘heroes’ saving the day. That’s how the show worked.

    Not to mention that it’s unclear what stage the script was in. It may have been an initial draft and so a lot could have changed before production even started. But either way, it’s short-sighted to assume.

  55. Saquist
    Saquist
    (42 comments)
    June 16, 2011 at 6:26 am |

    Stealing an entire city is pretty ridiculous too for seven people. They’ve be thrown in the brig for real for stealing an entire city.

    The only reason to take Atlantis back is 1. Political Reasons. (The Ancients, Knox or Furlings take it back themselves or 2. there is an eminent threat to deal with.

    I like one of the Four Races taking the City back simply for the good of the Pegasus Galaxy. It makes sense that while the ancients refused to interfere with from their ascended states they used their former tech as an inherientce to those they left behind. They did after all seeded all these galaxies so we’re in essence their children and inheritors. All the stuff they left behind was to help the next generation survive and taking Atlantis would be like taking the inheritance of another Galaxy. Think where that could take you….TEYLA…HELLO…I could see the KNOX as speakers for the ancients installing TEYLA as the leader of the Atlantis Expedition. She’s already leader of her people…If Atlantis is the inheritance of the Pegasus Galaxy who better?

    After that you could begin populating the city (finally)with her people. Earth could play the Military force that protects the city and Teyla WHO HAS ALL THE CONNECTIONS IN THE PEGASUS GALAXY….(eh em)could start bringing together the other people of Pegasus in an organized fashion. She could reach out to the Geni again and with an uneasy alliance with Earth.

    A new threat should come up too.
    That’s where the “mysterious aliens” from Daedalus Variations comes. As the Seasons develop it could create a conflict across realities…

    Which have always been fun exploring in the past.

  56. vtcrusade
    vtcrusade
    (1 comments)
    June 16, 2011 at 11:47 am |

    Thing that TPTB don’t care about StarGate anymore. Just try and make your own high production value StarGate fan film and watch how rabidly they protect their intellectual property.

  57. flynnser
    flynnser
    (6 comments)
    June 16, 2011 at 7:48 pm |

    I don’t want a comic book or this i want a movieee!!! :'(

  58. kenny
    kenny
    (54 comments)
    June 18, 2011 at 2:38 pm |

    Spill all the beens! If we are not going to get a movie, we need closure on the story at the very least. We pretty much got that with the SG1 movies. Todd may be able to get a job in Vegas.

  59. mrhodes76
    mrhodes76
    (1 comments)
    June 21, 2011 at 7:37 pm |

    Oh guys this is so easy to tie into either a movie begining or even better a 6th season. Keep in mind the Ancients left the gate and the dialing crystal on the bottom of the ocean. They didn’t need to take Atlantis to Earth just use the gate. Self Destruct has been done to death and really what real world device has a self destruct. If they are not on ships, planes, or stealth Black Hawk helicopters it would be foolish to put one in a city. Keep in mind a city they abandoned with the means to reach Earth intact. The SGC crew installed it and Zelenka and Weir didn’t think it was effective enough.

    Here is how Atlantis returns to Pegasus and to the same New Lantea planet they left in fact. The IOA now has the most advanced piece of technology in the known universe now that Orilla is gone. They must study it for the betterment of mankind and solve a 5 year old problem that could mean the solution for Earth’s greatest problems. They must use Atlantis to create ZPMs. ZPMs can bring global warming to a halt in less than 5 years by IOA expectations. The Odyssey Asgard core is used to reverse engineer ZPMs from the Ancient database (commented on by Weir) and The Thor hologram is close to the prototype. If you have to put Sam in it she can be in charge of the project and make Rodney furiously jealous that he is not heading it up since he has years of ZPM experience over Sam but the IOA can not control him like they can order Sam.

    Now to the meat of it. Zelenka, Keller, Rodney, Ronan, Tayla and Beckett start to figure out that Atlantis will be a test for the ZPMs and that the IOA will continue using Atlantis for every advancement they can. Rodney tells them that Atlantis must return to the original planet though or Shepard will be unable to time jump there 100,000 years from now with the Red Giant. Rodney even comments oh the things they have been trhough since Sheppard left. If the IOA fully repowers Atlantis they won’t be needed and will be removed from the project. Atlantis will be needed less and less and scrapped or forgotten. This will end the ability to return Atlantis. They can not let John know of the plan as he will lose his command and be sent to prison for espionage and theft. Here is the action twist, only two of those are fighters to take back a fully commanded base. Enter the not so willing but must survive Todd as the added muscle to retake the base at Ronan’s side to Ronan’s displeasure. Keep in mind that Todd has been poked prodded and kept on a minimalistic diet since arriving for months. He has scars that his meager feedings can no longer heal. He also has a severe limp from a bone graph experiment gone wrong all for the sake of cancer research. Now the first guard he meets in the corridor that all changes and his bloodlust returns in full. Oh and cut the moon crud. Either Atlantis is cloaked on the ocean surface near San Fran or nestled in Area 51 a no-fly zone. This is a great way to add a compliments of 302’s to Atlantis for Season 6. The Moon serves no purpose but for effects and draining shield power and gravity plating while preventing the ability to cloak. Keep in mind that the Pegasus gate while on Earth superceeds the Earth gate and Midway Station used Rodney’s macros that the other Milky Way gates do not have nor does Destiny. Side note, all this happens before Destiny calls Earth and Talford steps through back to Earth.

    So our heros are on the run with a captured city. The wormhole drive was so costly they can not run it to return to Pegasus without depleting the ZPMs completely at random killing all on board but can force quick jumps of a few thousand light years at a time. Don’t worry no Star Trek Voyager story here. Travel time with ZPM prototype roughly 1 weeks air time after the premiere. The military is forced to chase. in Daedalus and Sun Tzu. Keep in mind Americans man the Daedalus and Caldwell won’t fire on his collegues. The Sun Tzu is loyal to the Chinese and the IOA and have no fuzzys about our heros. They have to convince the military they are right to oppose the IOA and poor Woolsey on Daedalus thinks they did the right thing and the only member of the IOA to help them. Can Caldwell risk everything and fire on the Sun Tzu to keep them from stealing Atlantis. Can Woolsey give the order to fire on which of the two ships. To conclude the movie none of our heros can be trusted as the new head of the SGA base nor can Sheppard assume military control but he is stationed there for expertiese, ATA gene rating, and so the military has some controlling presence. So the next qualifying individual arrives from Earth in the closing seconds and Rodney welcomes (with an aside remark about who the smarter man is and “who saved who”) back to Atlantis Dr. Daniel Jackson.

  60. Michael Sacal
    Michael Sacal
    (194 comments)
    June 22, 2011 at 9:22 am |

    “I think I remember at the end of SG: Continuum, Sam mentioned that she was working on a new moonbase program.”

    Yes! At the time I thought it was a reference to Icarus from Stargate Universe, but now we can safely assume that she was talking about Atlantis.

  61. mike3
    mike3
    (2 comments)
    June 23, 2011 at 3:40 am |

    If you think the writers are bad, why can’t they just get a better writer?

  62. scaper
    scaper
    (2 comments)
    June 23, 2011 at 7:14 am |

    ^^^^^^ Great question Mike3

    i’m not going to haed off on another soap box rant but, why does atlantis have to have some interior crisis to make it back to pegasus?? Self destrucy or theft?? Whats wrong with a more political situation?? Whats wrong with going back to the origional story, remeber the wraith were about to wake up… “all of them” i know they sort of gave up on the wraith half way through but i think there were more things to be done here…. Remeber when our guys got locked up by the group of worlds that had banded together?? now the episode was a pile of pants, but at its core that was a milestone in the history of the pegasus galaxy wasnt it? never before have worlds been able to group together to oppose the wraith.. But we know that most of the worlds in pagasus are’nt capable of doing more than throwing rocks up at hive ships.. This is where atlantis comes in.. Why cant a delegation come via the deadalus to earth and demand that atlantis be returned to defend the humans of pegasus from the wraith hords now culling the galaxy… After all what right do we have to keep atlantis on earth after the wraith threat was over…. And surly it would make more sence to deal with the wraith when they’re not on our doorstep.

    Surly a good writer could weave interesting and “actiony” bits into that… whilst at the same time padding out somre stargate lore… something that sga is missing.. except when they pull out the ancients for an easy explination..

    Wouldnt it be good to see atlantis manned to the hilt with people from pegasus standing side by side with our heros??? wouldnt it be cool to see atlantis drop out of hyper space and drone down hive after hive???

    Surly if in 1 story our guys stole atlantis back to pegasus, the next story would be about the team that had been sent to replace them… because our guys would either be on the run or in a federal prison??

  63. MadrickBay
    MadrickBay
    (4 comments)
    June 24, 2011 at 6:20 pm |

    I like the idea of Atlantis being on the Moon and back in the geo-political bounds of Earth… sounds really Messy. I like how it can be both a huge boon and a tremendous problem for the powers-that-be on Earth. It also allows the rest of the franchise (SG-1 and SGU) access to Atlantis in a highly mobile manner for the writers…and all the problems… I love the problems it would create..which gate would become the dominant gate?…would the Earth gate even work…without Atlantis, what would happen with the Raith and the humans in the Pegasus Galaxy…would there be in all-out Raith invasion of the MilkyWay?… What would the IOA do with an asset like Atlantis on the Moon…
    Sounds like fun….but, I definitely do not like a hit and run back to the Pegasus galaxy in two episode sort of concept.

  64. quicken2k
    quicken2k
    (1 comments)
    June 28, 2011 at 11:50 am |

    So, is it really dead for sure. That’s to bad! :(

  65. law7441
    law7441
    (15 comments)
    July 2, 2011 at 10:27 pm |

    for film these story very weak, good for season 6 opener not for film

  66. SunnyBri
    SunnyBri
    (1 comments)
    September 2, 2011 at 12:40 pm |

    The movie as discribed would have made a logical start to season 6. However for a MOVIE it would have been lame.
    Hiding Atlantis on the moon is a good idea, providing power is not an issue. For a movie you need something big. The idea struck me. Why not introduce a new bad guy. Then Atlantis could defend the Earth. Say that the illness that wiped out the Ancients was actually engineered by these bad guys, and they left behind some sort of sensor to notify them of any sign of Ancient tech being used on a large scale. They send a craft to the planet to issue an ultimatum that Earth must stop using all ancient tech. So we get to see a nice big battle and have a problem to solve. That would be a fun MOVIE. Sure hope they bring some sort of stargate back to the small screen! SGU was just starting to get good after a lousy start.

  67. Croaker
    Croaker
    (5 comments)
    July 14, 2012 at 2:08 am |

    I like the idea of a delegation of humans from the pegasus galaxy coming to earth demanding for the return of atlantis to defend them from the life sucking wraith. The self destruct has been played out over and over and I’m not just talking about SGA, how many times did we see the self destruct go off on SG1? First thing first, figure out a way to use Atlantis to make or recharge the Zed PM’s. Use full zpm’s to power the star drive to either resupply and repair destiny so that it may continue its mission to find the creation of the universe or to bring it back to earth to be the flag ship for its fleet of 303’s and maybe a new design a 304 class. Hell on the way try to collect some of those gate building ships, I doubt there were only the one or two we saw in SGU. I would like to see destiny come back to earth by way of being towed through hyper space by atlantis so that it may be refitted with better engines and better hyper drive. It’s weapons system is pretty top notch though. Transfer database to earth computers and build there own atlantis class ship send the old one to the pegasus galaxy or the new one and get the multi-galaxy human coalition out of its infancy and into childhood, finsh of the wraith. The universe is huge and full of nasty evil creatures and who’s to say one of the less crazy and more clever snakes didn’t flee the milky way earlier when nobody was looking, maybe he figured the playing god thing was played out and decided to rebuild his empire another way not to mention the criminal allution alliance, is that what there called, don’t remember been a minute since I watched. With the potential of a war across realities, well lets say the enemy from daedualus variations eventually finish off the atlantis in their reality and study the tech on that atlantis and come to our reality to kick some A or get their collective A’s kicked. Another variation could include the systems of Atlantis readjusting itself to the milkyway galaxy so that abandoned ancient warships pop up on its scanners and maybe even a ancient warship factory from a hidden planet near the earth’s solar system. The planet was hidden by ancient tech and has no gate just in case somebody like the Go’uld came through on accident. Maybe they can build some more puddle jumpers in said hidden planet and some drones while their at it, either way get atlantis back to pegasus. I would like to see another SG franchise maybe call it SG alliance like the game or SG Humanity. I don’t want another movie though I’ll take about anything to get my SG fix. I would rather see a season six!!! Damn MGM and the repeat writers!!! If you could of come up with something a little better they might not have cancelled the shows, bloody hell, theft of the city or half of the comments on here point out better ideas then another damned self destruct!

    PS I’d have watched it regardless of how un-original the season six or movie turned out to be. Since the cancellations the show has gained momentum though, I have turned atleast 10-20 people on to the SG franchise. Do you think I’m the only onbe trying to spread the good word about this show, hoping that one day that MGM disengages their heads from their proverbial asses!

    PSS When you cancelled SGA for SGU, you lost alot of fans, SGA was going strong, stronger than SG1 and it was getting better every season and by cancelling SGA you angered some of the strongest of your fanbase, I’m talking the fans who have been there since day one waiting for the pilot on showtime, I read several comments immediately after SGA’s cancellation where most said they would boycott SGU just because you cancelled SGA, if you showed more tits and ass you could have stayed on showtime and we would probably still be enjoying the SG franchise. There are some fine ass women on those three franchises. What MGM should have done is send the writers back to the table to rewrite season six and make it better or replace them altogether, sure hold the threat of cancelling the show over their head for a little motivation but don’t just say oh well thats it we’re done with a show thats doing damn well through its fifth season and what 12 or 13 years worth of SG seasons. It was an easy fix that 99% of your fans could have fixed had you just asked!

  68. Croaker
    Croaker
    (5 comments)
    July 14, 2012 at 2:13 am |

    Oh yeah, make carter a buck general already for the bang up job she did in pegasus and a moon base or an operation to turn the moon into a giant weaponized base maybe hollow part of it out with a massive base under its surface, or buld you ship factory in the moon and make it a huge weaponized moon base to protect earth but not atlantis on the moon, it would just be a giant drain on atlantis’s power supply.

  69. Croaker
    Croaker
    (5 comments)
    July 14, 2012 at 2:17 am |

    Goodluck with the Van Damned movie Joe!!! I like Jean though and he is the villian in Stallone’s new installment of the expendables 2!

  70. Croaker
    Croaker
    (5 comments)
    July 14, 2012 at 2:19 am |

    I know I’m a little late with the comments but I’ve been without internet and cable for quite some time due to unforseen circumstances that could not be avoided. Imagine, coming out of a coma to this, what a disappointment, wish I would of stayed there now!

  71. Barbara
    Barbara
    (2 comments)
    September 23, 2018 at 7:14 pm |

    I have missed Stargate Atlantis, it was my favorite show ever, please, please bring it back with most of the previous actors. I loved Joe Flanigan, he made the whole show what it was. Why can’t another series be made, so many people and fans want to see it come back. Nothing has even come close to this series, I just cannot say enough.

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