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  1. Starscapesg1
    Starscapesg1
    (51 comments)
    July 25, 2011 at 4:41 pm |

    Still not ever watching anything on this channel again ill download Warehouse 13 and support it that way. Sorry syfy you ruined the network forever. It’ll be a dead network soon enough!

  2. The Tenth Doctor
    The Tenth Doctor
    (62 comments)
    July 25, 2011 at 6:47 pm |

    Are we gonna get this every week? A detailed examination of all ratings on a channel most users here seem to have turned their back on anyway, only to see how Stargate Universe might have done had it remained on the airwaves and focus on nitpicking ultimately irrelevant scheduling choices rather than at least discuss the underlying critical quality of SGU?

    Has this site got nothing better to do?

  3. ictus75
    ictus75
    (46 comments)
    July 25, 2011 at 6:53 pm |

    Happened to be flipping channels and gave Alphas a 2nd chance – still not very interesting…

  4. iom666
    iom666
    (9 comments)
    July 25, 2011 at 7:28 pm |

    Downloading too out of question to give any audience to Skyfy
    Also don’t forget those are summer numbers, there is no competition, no Glee no Dancing With the Stars…

  5. sagoo33
    sagoo33
    (2 comments)
    July 26, 2011 at 2:39 am |

    @The Tenth Doctor. Don’t read it if you’re not interested.

  6. mazey
    mazey
    (16 comments)
    July 26, 2011 at 4:09 am |

    id more support a wordban on “syfy” then i would any show left on that network.

  7. Kyle Nin
    Kyle Nin
    (46 comments)
    July 26, 2011 at 10:40 am |

    “Happened to be flipping channels and gave Alphas a 2nd chance – still not very interesting…”

    Really? I thought the second episode was noticeably better than the pilot. Maybe not the best thing I’ve ever seen, but certainly showed promise for more interesting episodes to come. Of course, you can attribute that to the new showrunner of the series: Ira Steven Behr. The guy did wonders for “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” and “The 4400”, so why should this one be any different?

  8. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    July 26, 2011 at 2:02 pm |

    @Starscapesg1 – If all you’re doing is downloading it, you’re not supporting the show in any way.

    @The Tenth Doctor – You’re reading a site that apparently doesn’t interest you. Don’t you have anything better to do? The ratings aren’t about SGU, they’re about related genre shows. Stargate is obviously over so there are no Stargate ratings to talk about anymore. For the site to continue, they obviously have to talk about things other than Stargate.

    @iom666 – Downloading serves no purpose other than your own.

    How can anyone honestly think that downloading shows benefits the show in any way after everything that’s happened with SGU? The only place the show was popular was in downloads…that got it cancelled. Way to support the show!

  9. elwoodxrl
    elwoodxrl
    (7 comments)
    July 26, 2011 at 7:39 pm |

    The one that kills me is Haven. Good God that is an awful show. I made it through a couple of episodes and realized I was taking up valuable space on the DVR. The fact that this show plays while SGU got shelved is just plain wrong.

  10. Starscapesg1
    Starscapesg1
    (51 comments)
    July 27, 2011 at 12:21 pm |

    @mythos I watched SGU live every week and I don’t really care if downloading Warehouse 13 doesn’t help I just don’t want that sh*t house network syfy getting any support!

  11. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    July 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm |

    @Starscapesg1 – I think you missed my point(s).
    1) You said you would “support it that way” in reference to downloading Warehouse 13. But that doesn’t support it.
    2) If you were to be counted in any way of supporting Warehouse 13, it would be by watching it on Syfy. So by not doing so, not only are you not supporting it, you’re actually working against it.
    3) Syfy doesn’t have some sort of stranglehold on the genre. These shows could go elsewhere – if others were interested in them.
    4) The goal should be to watch any good scifi on Syfy if you want to send Syfy a message. If you don’t watch at all, then you just contribute to the concept of the genre just not being popular enough that is used to pull in the likes of professional wrestling.

  12. StygianInq
    StygianInq
    (2 comments)
    July 27, 2011 at 9:20 pm |

    I think you guys might be jumping the gun on StarscapeSG1. He could be buying and downloading the episodes through iTunes or watching it via IPTV which WOULD be supporting the show. Incidentally, I believe Universal Media Studios owns the show and they are owned by NBC who also owns SyFy so either way you would technically be supporting SyFy whether you download it through iTunes or watch it live. I wonder why everyone automatically links the word ‘downloading’ with illegal downloading.

  13. tb1342
    tb1342
    (47 comments)
    July 28, 2011 at 8:16 am |

    SyFy? what is that? Ohh that reality channel…no I do not watch that channel anymore

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  15. Eagalis
    Eagalis
    (52 comments)
    July 31, 2011 at 12:10 pm |

    @mythos
    that is the best logic i have seen in a while

  16. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    August 1, 2011 at 10:47 am |

    @StygianInq – People whom are buying episodes are almost always specific in that they’re doing so. When people just say downloading, they generally mean via torrents or another unofficial means. And I should clarify that I’m not meaning any of this as any sort of attack against Starscapesg1. I’m just trying to clear up some misconceptions that people seem to have. And one of the biggies when it came to SGU was that downloading the show was somehow supporting it.

    And for the record, even buying the episodes on itunes has limited effect on the future of the show. As things stand, tv ratings are still what drives the market and until that changes, even buying it on a site like itunes, while more helpful to the show than downloading it via torrents and the like, still doesn’t help a show survive. Though unless you’ve got a nielsen box, you don’t count anyhow. So buying the show is more helpful than not counting at all.

    So again, not meaning any of this as an attack, just trying to clear up misconceptions. I want people to be realistic about the situation and realize that they can make a difference if they approach things the right way. But just downloading a show you like without paying for it any way will never send any message because you’re not affecting the bottom line in that scenario. Rather all you do is get added to the list of obfuscated figures that the industry uses to try to claim that piracy is destroying the industry and that everyone who downloads something is costing them billions of fictional dollars.

  17. Browncoat1984
    Browncoat1984
    (234 comments)
    August 4, 2011 at 1:05 am |

    The problem is most people who watch sci-fi don’t have Nielsen boxes. And most people who have Nielsen boxes do not watch sci-fi. This is why in almost every case sci-fi will always fail and its been this way since the creation of the Nielsen boxes, long before the advent of downloading came along.

    Remember Star Trek? My dad and I have been watching the remastered series and I was thinking back on how and why it was canceled. Back at the end of Season 2, much like SyFy and SGU, NBC was going to cancel Star Trek. Much to their surprised, there was a HUGE backlash (this was BEFORE the internet) – they had NO idea that THIS many people liked the show! and this was before Star Trek had even become the cultural phenomenon that it would in the 70’s and 80’s! So they renewed it for a season 3.

    Fast forward to 2003. Firefly was canceled. Why? Again, because of RATINGS! Imagine Fox’s surprise when DVD sales SKYROCKET to the top of the charts! Sold so well to warrant a movie! *Gasp* could this be? More people watched the show than the ratings indicated! Today, Firefly is almost as much of a cultural phenomenon as a TV show as Star Trek is. Its one of the most beloved Sci-fi shows at only 13 episodes.

    I have a feeling that the same can be said of SGU. I’m sure that its not quite on the scale of Trek or Firefly, but I’m sure there’s a lot more people who watch it, especially than hang out here on Gateworld.

    For years now, especially since Firefly, fans have been screaming at networks to get with the times and develop a new, more accurate way to measure viewers but sadly our pleas have fallen on deaf ears. When you think that they’re taking a step forward, they take two step backwards. The networks, in their infinite wisdom, think they know their fans, but in reality they don’t. I bet if you started shoveling more high-quality, intelligent entertainment at your viewers, rather than crap like Dancing with the Stars, people would tune in.

  18. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    August 4, 2011 at 10:49 am |

    @Browncoat1984 – I agree with your logic…the problem is that SGU doesn’t fit into it. Where are the huge dvd sales? Where are the legions of fans rocking the boat? There’s no material events that one can point to in SGU’s situation to merit the idea that it was more popular than the ratings indicated. When NBC saw the legions of screaming fans over Star Trek, they used all of that as an indicator to sponsors that the show was liked and watched. But that only bought them a short amount of time to prove it – which they couldn’t. With Firefly, surely there was a desire to keep the show running on the air when it was seen how popular it was – but they couldn’t sell the possibility of people maybe watching it because dvd sales were high to the advertisers.

    But with SGU…what would they go to the advertisers with to sell it? Their word that people watch it? It is a business and businesses have guidelines they have to work inside of. The people who made the show knew this. They thought they knew better. They were wrong.

    Scifi will always have several strikes against it (smaller audiences, higher costs, etc). So when you find something that works and is still working (SGA), it’s best to hold onto it as long as possible. Nothing other than Brad Wright’s ego would have suffered by sticking with SGA and letting it run it’s course. By then, maybe things would have shifted to a point where SGU had a better chance – though I doubt it if they had still started off the same way. People just really aren’t looking for a space soap in Stargate.

  19. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    August 9, 2011 at 2:46 am |

    @mythos Since you’re so big on evidence,why don’t you show some evidence to support your constant attacks on Brad Wright,since he says something different.So basically it’s your word against his.You try and work it out who’s has more merrit.

    Btw..another one bites the dust..Eureka,by,by!
    Everything seems to be going according to “plan” with SyFy!

  20. Jim
    Jim
    (458 comments)
    August 9, 2011 at 2:50 am |

    Where’s your bottom line in canceling Eureka?
    There sure is bottom line,you just don’t seem to understand what it is.

  21. mythos
    mythos
    (346 comments)
    August 9, 2011 at 4:21 pm |

    @Jim – I have shown evidence before, not that it matters. People will ultimately believe what they want to believe. But really all of the evidence exists within Brad Wright’s title. It was his job. If he had bitten the bullet and said he had no choice, many, myself included, would have likely respected that. But that’s not what he said. He said better show, bigger audience. He failed on both accounts. Then he blamed the people who did watch Stargate religiously up until SGU for it’s demise. Well, he’s right. Those people stopped watching and it didn’t find a new audience so there was no one left to watch. It really is all that simple.

    Now I’m not expecting Brad Wright to commit Seppuku over the matter. Nor do I expect him to change anything, feel anything or even acknowledge the matter. But if the topic of why there is no more Stargate comes up, he is the be all and end all.

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