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  1. bhorwith22
    November 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm |

    “The show premiered on Syfy Channel in 2009, introducing not only a new cast of characters and a new mission but also a very different style of Stargate on television: darker (both thematically and visually), hand-held, with characters more flawed and less heroic. For some it wasn’t Stargate enough; for others, it was the first Stargate they were actually interested in watching.”
    Perfect summary of SGU. It is probably my favorite Stargate show, even though I love SG-1 and Atlantis.

  2. TW
    November 6, 2012 at 6:57 pm |

    The reason SGU failed, well for oen part it was something different than the previous two but the biggest was there was no good opening credits. Loved the show as well as I love Sg-1 and SGA and wished it would have lasted longer but we wouldn’t be doing this. But yes if it had a biggere opening sequence like SGA and SG-1 then it would have made it.

  3. jimv1983
    November 7, 2012 at 2:52 am |

    The SG-1 and SGA rewatch was fun but I’m going to have to end my participation here. I’m surprised it even got an entire season and even more surprised it got a second season. I am a long time Stargate fan so I watched both season just hoping it would get better. It didn’t. The only character that was worth a damn was Eli. I didn’t care what happened to anyone else. Every week I was hoping they would find a cool way to kill of Chloe.

  4. archetype
    November 7, 2012 at 8:12 am |

    TW- My favorite theory so far.

  5. davey1983
    November 7, 2012 at 10:21 am |

    TW- I have to disagree with you. While I do not like the current trend of not having a credit sequence, I have never started, continued, or stopped watching a show because of the opening credit sequence. If opening credit sequences helped bring in viewers, we would not see shows getting rid of them like we do right now.

  6. Orcen
    November 7, 2012 at 11:36 am |

    Just remember Lost’s opening credits… oh well.

  7. oneme
    November 9, 2012 at 3:57 am |

    SGU is my favorite STARGATE!

    Loved sg-1 when it was out, but always wanted more character development. SGU was the answer!

    And if you didn’t like that pilot episode…you just hate tv in general then


  8. mynameschris
    November 9, 2012 at 10:02 am |

    Guys just wondering, wheres the nomination for best Greer moment?

  9. Darren
    November 9, 2012 at 12:46 pm |

    Thanks for the reminder, Chris — I’d added it to the forum thread where nominations are taking place, but forgot to come back here with the fix.

  10. jimv1983
    November 9, 2012 at 11:28 pm |

    oneme, Character development was all the show was and the characters ****** (except Eli). 95% of the show was fighting between the characters or someone crying. The Stargate mythology, team work, sense of adventure and heavy sci-fi stories were what made SG-1 and SGA so good. SGU had hardly any of that.

    The only part of the pilot episode that was any good was the battle above Icarus planet, the part where they recruited Eli and Eli figuring out how to dial the 9th chevron.

    If you liked SGU you might like: 90210, Smallville, The Vampire Diaries, Supernatural.

    Go back and watch “200” from SG-1 where they had the parody of SG-1 where they were all over-dramatic teenagers. That was what SGU was. Stargate: 90210.

  11. Noldor
    November 10, 2012 at 9:41 am |

    Stargate ended with an Enemy at the gate…

  12. Akurai
    November 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm |

    @jimv1983 If you didn’t watch SGU, don’t pretend that you know what it is about. If you had watched more than three episodes of SGU, you would understand that you’re entire statement is wrong.

    And yes, I did enjoy Smallville and Supernatural. But I also enjoyed Stargate SG1, Stargate Atlantis,, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica(old and new), Star Trek, Lost, Andromeda, Farscape, Continuum, Sanctuary, and many other fantastic science fiction shows.

    Just because you dislike Stargate Universe, does not automatically make you better than people who do like it.

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  14. jimv1983
    November 11, 2012 at 6:14 pm |

    @Akurai, I actually did watch all two seasons hoping that it would get better. It didn’t. I also never claimed to be better than you.

    Stargate Universe was an insult to the franchise. The show was 90% drama between the characters and 10% actual sci-fi. Why do you think it only got two seasons? Go back and watch “200″ from SG-1 where they had the parody of SG-1 where they were all over-dramatic teenagers. That was what SGU was. SGU was basically Stargate: 90210.

  15. Noldor
    November 11, 2012 at 6:26 pm |

    I have to agree 100% with jimv1983. I have given the two seasons of SGU many chanses, but it`s still ****. There was two good episodes though, the first one, and i belive it was ep15 in s2. That was it.

  16. jimv1983
    November 11, 2012 at 6:28 pm |

    I really hope the voting for the SGU seasons does not require us to vote in every category. I’d like to vote for best Eli moment, coolest technology and best crossover. The other categories don’t have any best moments.

  17. bhorwith22
    November 12, 2012 at 12:16 am |

    I think most of these hate comments on SGU are just one spammer who is trying to overcompensate that the small group of SGU haters that agree with them is so insignificant. Universe was the best-written, best-acted, and best overall Stargate show.

  18. DocScience
    November 12, 2012 at 6:20 pm |

    Let’s have some really hard questions like “Least likable character?”

  19. bhorwith22
    November 12, 2012 at 6:56 pm |

    That would be extremely easy, since the only remotely unlikable character was Chloe.

  20. orfeu
    November 13, 2012 at 8:58 am |

    SGU was the lowest rated show from Stargate, at times the lowest rated show on the network.

    It caused something very rare: a letter campaign to get it canceled.

    It had abysmal DVD sales, which means that not many cared, although people keep saying that Nielsen id flawed, DVD sales aren’t. It didn’t sell.

    There two type of people who liked it: those who love soap operas, but are ashamed to admit it, or didn’t know they do, and those who have artistic aspirations, but are not very good at it. You know the last one: in their thirties, didn’t evolve since high-school, thinks that a shaking camera is the state of the art.

    Loved the marathon so far, but SGU was a bad show and I still cringe when I see that people associates it with Stargate.

  21. Akurai
    November 13, 2012 at 9:20 am |

    @jimv1983 okay, so does that mean we can blame episode 200 for seasons 4 and 4 of Atlantis? They used zombies, used technobabble to try and make themselves sound smart. They even had a detective episode. You did say were better than me. The tone of your entire post what that of a person stating that their opinion is better than another persons.

    It only got 2 seasons because the fanbase didn’t support it, and demanded that it be cancelled before had a chance to do anything. Yes, the show was very dramatic, but wait…. that’s what the producers wanted it to be. It’s different from the other shows, but that’s okay.

    And since you made the comparison of SGU: 90210, Stargate Atlantis was nothing more than Stargate SG1-2.

  22. bhorwith22
    November 13, 2012 at 6:22 pm |

    SGU failing made me lose hope in the intelligence of humanity.

  23. oneme
    November 13, 2012 at 6:38 pm |

    I LOVE SGU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (sry…needed to bring some balance to the force.)

    (Oh and I watched SG-1 from the begining, and SGU is my favorite stargate serise :D )

    (and sga kinda stunk in regards to it being a sg1 clone (but loved Makay!)

  24. oneme
    November 13, 2012 at 6:41 pm |

    I think something everyone can agree on tho, is that SGU had the best Pilot episode.

    Like…SG-1 was great an all…but those first few episodes…PHEW did they stink! And SGA was just a SG-1 clone at first. And even shows like Star Trek: next Gen had crappy first episodes.

    It just really bothers me that people were hating on the show months before it even aired, and then after the first episode said it was **** compared to the other Stargate shows. LIKE ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

  25. bhorwith22
    November 13, 2012 at 6:44 pm |

    Sorry. I am being a little too antagonistic. I don’t want to start a flame war, and I hope we can just choose to civilly disagree. I know there are a lot of people who dislike it, but if you just gave it a chance, I’m sure you would like it. Season 2 takes the focus off of character development, and the last half of season 2 is excellent, probably the best Stargate that has ever been aired on TV.

  26. SolitudeMan1977
    November 15, 2012 at 10:55 pm |

    All right now! SGU was bad? I don’t think so. Sure, it was VERY different from other SG series and I was little disappointed at first. But as the story evolved I began to like the series! In season 2 there are few over the top episodes of all SG series. The last few episodes of SGU were awesome.
    I think SGU is for people who have something more than air between their ears….

    Actually I haven’t been paticipating on this rewatch event. I recently started watching SGU and now I’m watching SGA and am now in second season. I probably start watching SG1 after SGA. So I’m doing this little differently and faster (about 1-2 week per season).

  27. jimv1983
    November 17, 2012 at 12:41 am |

    bhorwith22, best written, best acted and best overall Stargate show? Are we even talking about the same show? Except for Eli the characters and acting was horrible. TJ was ok until she lost her baby and found out she had ALS. After that she did nothing by cry most of the time. SG-1 was a TEAM. It was an adventure. It had a huge emphasis on SCI-FI. SG-1 still had character development and drama but it was almost always secondary to the sci-fi part not the main focus.

    Besides the horrible characters the reason I didn’t like it was because I like my sci-fi to be more sci-fi than drama. SGU was 95% drama and 5% sci-fi. The sci-fi aspect of SGU always seemed like an after-thought. SG1 and SGA actually had an adversary. In SGU their biggest adversary was themselves. The drone ships and the blue aliens were an afterthought.

    The reason SGU failed is because the majority of the core Stargate fan base liked Stargate for the sci-fi, adventure, team work, likeable characters that we actually cared what happened to them. SGU lost all of that and with that they lost a huge part of the core fan base. The writers/creators made Stargate into a soap opera and still thought their target audience was sci-fi lovers.

    SG-1, for example, had episodes good sci-fi episodes like:
    The Torment of Tantalus, There But For The Grace of God, Within The Serpent’s Grasp, The Serpent’s Lair, The Fifth Race (one of my favorites), Nemesis, Small Victories, Window of Opportunity, 2010, Exodus, Enemies, Fail Safe, Revelations, Full Circle, The Lost City( by far the best Stargate episode ever from any of the 3 shows, the Antarctica battle was EPIC), Reckoning, Arthur’s Mantle, The Pegasus Project, The Road Not Taken.

    Even SG-1’s drama heavy episodes were better:
    Solitudes, Politics, Forever in a Day, Maternal Instinct, Chain Reaction, Ascension, Meridian(one of my fav drama heavy episodes), Smoke and Mirrors, Disclosure, Lifeboat, Grace, Heroes, Citizen Joe

    It also bothered me that after 2 years (40 episodes) of being on a ship built by the Ancients we hardly learned anything about them.

    I was also bothered by the inconsistencies with established story but that is a totally different issue.

  28. ZJW88
    November 20, 2012 at 12:02 am |

    Stargate “Fans” who go out of their way to hate on SGU infuriate me to no end. The show was fantastic. Yes, the first season was only mediocre, but the 2nd season was the greatest of all 17

  29. jimv1983
    November 20, 2012 at 4:31 am |

    @JZW88, People who say SGU was good Stargate and call themselves Stargate “fans” infuriates me. Season 2 of Universe the best of all 17 Stargate seasons? That is just laughable. Season 6 or 7 of SG-1 was the best. I’ll admit that season 2 was better than season 1. The two part episode
    Common Decent/Epilogue and Twin Destines were ok. Cloverdale was quite possibly the worst episode of Stargate of all 354 episodes. Hope, The Hunt, Blockade, Deliverance and Pathogen were pretty bad. One of those episodes had the scene between Camille and her girlfriend that was just unbearable. The scene in Visitation where TJ once again cries about her baby made me want to shoot myself. The fight between Rush and Young on the alien ship in The Greater Good made me hate those characters even more which I didn’t think was even possible. When I saw the “Next week on SGU” trailer for Awakening I was hopeful that it would be a good episode because it was going to have one of the seed ships and I thought maybe it might be good. NOPE!

  30. maxsgc
    November 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm |

    SGU its not bad it was amezing show the best for fans and for other new viewers i tiought the only problem its beceause some poeple followed SGU on streaming and not on the Syfy channel.. Thats the problem we are in a new generation.. of broadcast media.. So its the only raison of the declining viewership.. Thats very hard to said but.. Stargate its not only a story its a market thing.. For me the story continu to live in my mind forever!

  31. dtheories
    November 21, 2012 at 12:40 am |

    Is it too late to post nominations cause I keep being told there’s an error.

  32. Darren
    November 21, 2012 at 12:28 pm |

    You can still post category nominations on the thread. (I jut got home from a trip and will start compiling them today, so it may be closed without further notice.)

  33. jimv1983
    November 24, 2012 at 4:55 am |

    Please make the voting so that we don’t have to vote in every category. I want to vote on

    Best Episode
    Best Eli Wallace Moment
    Coolest Technology
    Best Stargate Crossover
    Best Guest Star

    The rest of them I don’t give a damn about.

  34. ZJW88
    November 24, 2012 at 2:45 pm |

    @jimv1983: See, i think it’s interesting that you point to season 6 or 7 of SG-1 as being the being the best ever, b/c to me, those seasons are the model of mediocre. Season 6 had a few standouts, but plenty of throwaways as well, and while you’d be hard pressed to find many bad episodes in season 7, you’d also be hard pressed to find any truly remarkable ones either. Cloverdale doesn’t even come close to being the worst episode of the franchise. As for your hatred of Rush, well, he was my favorite character on the show, and in mind, potentially the most fascinating of any character from the franchise. And Blockade was a fantastic episode. I’ll give you that Pathogen was pretty terrible, but that’s about it…

  35. Dawesstategate
    November 24, 2012 at 11:32 pm |

    Been watching SGU And listen to your podcast at the same time.
    I think the acting is great and the ideals of SGU Are in fact the ideals of the mass number of people who love Star Gate.

  36. Darren
    November 25, 2012 at 4:20 pm |

    jimv: I’ve configured the ballot (which should be up shortly) to allow people to only vote in some of the categories.

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