Stargate Origins brought the venerable science fiction franchise back to the small screen for the first time in nearly seven years. But was the 10-part Web series a one-and-done affair? Or will it be back to tell another origin story?
MGM has not announced a second season of Stargate Origins yet, but there are some hints that an ongoing anthology series might have been the original plan. Origins was announced at San Diego Comic-Con in July of 2017, set to debut on a brand new streaming platform: Stargate Command. There was every indication from the studio that MGM was using the lower-budget, lower-risk project to test the waters — to see what life might still be in the brand.
So if Origins did well enough, couldn’t a totally different story be told for Season Two?
Here’s everything we know so far about the Web series’ renewal prospects (as of February 2019), what sort of story might be told, and when it could be ready to premiere.
CATHERINE’S STORY
Stargate Origins went before cameras in October 2017, and by February it had made its big premiere online at Stargate Command. Set in 1939, Origins starred Ellie Gall starred as a young Catherine Langford, whose father had discovered the Stargate at the Giza plateau in 1928.
After Dr. Langford (played by Connor Trinneer) is captured by Nazis and taken through the gate to the distant planet Abydos, Catherine recruits her beau James Beal (a British officer stationed in Cairo, played by Philip Alexander) and Egyptian soldier Wasif (Shvan Aladdin) to help her rescue him.
It was clear to viewers from the beginning that this was a one-off story. Origins was self-contained, meant to last just the one season. In fact it really was a single movie, split up into 10 parts for online consumption. As the series debuted Gall even said that a second season of Stargate Origins would be “someone else’s story.”
After the Web series finished its initial run a feature cut was released at digital retail — offering Stargate fans another clue about MGM’s long-term strategy. It carries the title Stargate Origins: Catherine. That seems to suggest that there might be other stories yet to be told under the “Stargate Origins” banner.
So if Stargate Origins were to return for another round, don’t expect any of the same cast (or even the creatives). It would be a totally different story about different characters, set in a different era, and maybe not even on Earth …
WHO’S UP NEXT?
Which character or species from the vast Stargate universe deserves to have its backstory explored in what is effectively a mini-movie event? We can think of a few we’d like to see.
The most talked-about idea for a second season of Stargate Origins is the Jaffa — specifically, Master Bra’tac (played by Tony Amendola through ten seasons of Stargate SG-1). He’s a fan favorite, and at 140-something years old he sure has a lot of history to tell.
Bra’tac was already a seasoned warrior and elder statesman, First Prime of Apophis, when Catherine Langford was trying to get a Stargate program up and running on Earth. Heck, the Jaffa are so long-lived that Amendola (who is now 67, according to IMDb) could play the character as a much younger man!
We know from flashbacks (“Threshold”) that Bra’tac served Apophis reluctantly. For many years he sewed the seeds of skepticism and liberation among the warriors he trained. It might be that the Free Jaffa movement as a whole — which spans many planets and armies in the service of many different Goa’uld — ultimately arose from Bra’tac’s careful, quiet influence.
That’s a story worth telling: not only Bra’tac’s origins as a leader of the resistance, but the origins of the Jaffa resistance movement itself.
Writer and actor Christopher Judge has said publicly on more than one occasion — including MGM’s own Stargate panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2018 — that this is a story he wants to tell. That would apparently mean writing it (and potentially scoring a producer’s credit), in addition to putting in an appearance as Bra’tac’s star pupil, Teal’c.
There are plenty of other directions Season Two of Origins could go — even if the writers chose to stay away from Earth entirely. Stargate has more than 350 episodes of mythology under its belt. So how about an origins story about the Ancients, the construction of the gate network, and the plague that nearly wiped them out? Or a season of Stargate Origins all about the first Tok’ra — the Goa’uld’s own internal resistance movement — and the leadership of their queen, Egeria?
The Wraith?
The Asgard?
And where are those d@-% Furlings?!
WHAT IS MGM DOING?
One thing we do know: As of February 1, 2019, MGM has not given the go-ahead to Season Two of Stargate Origins — not as another 10-part, stand-alone Web series. As many ideas as there are out there, the studio was not yet ready to commit to another season after Catherine’s story was finished early in 2018.
The production process takes time, of course. If Stargate Origins Season Two were going to premiere before the end of this year, it would probably have to go into pre-production right now. So the longer MGM waits to announce something, the more likely it is that that project won’t hit our screens before 2020.
We do know, however, that they are doing something. The Stargate franchise is an important part of the MGM library, and whatever the next step is — they want to get it right. This calculation may entail the cold reality that some long-time fans found the Origins Web series to be under-budgeted and off brand.
To do Stargate justice, the studio is going to have to do it right. They’ll need to spend the money, and have the right creative talent in place to tell a story more in keeping with what made millions of fans worldwide fall in love with that big, round portal.
Who will that be? It remains to be seen — but long-time executive producer Brad Wright has stated publicly that he and MGM are talking about Stargate again — and, evidently, working on developing a new project.
Whether that next thing falls under the Stargate Origins banner, or strikes off in a new direction, remains to be seen.
Wright co-created Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, and Stargate Universe. And so he really is the father of the franchise — the “Great Bird of the Galaxy” (to borrow a nickname from another sci-fi family). New, in-canon Stargate content from his creative mind would really be an ideal next step.
In the meantime, we wait. We wait for MGM to pull back the curtain on those conversations, and the fruit they will ultimately bear. Here at GateWorld, we think 2019 is going to be an important year.
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Unless this is an important step towards a long-form series, please no more Stargate Origins.
Let me ask this question to those who aren’t fans of SGO: What if Brad or Chris ended up writing it; and it was directly connected to SG-1 mythology; and it was budgeted at $5-10 million (Ark and Continuum were $7 million apiece); and someone like Andy Mikita was hired to direct.
And they called it “Stargate Origins” Season 2.
Would folks still object?
@Darren I would love more Origins movies, but only with the certain quality, and the respect of the canon. Yes, Catherine did fit into the canon, but we all know it was constrained. For me, the ideal would be a new series with a whole season, plus two movies per year. One of them could be an event movie or miniseries connecting to the current story, maybe building up to Universe s3. The other one could be an Origins movie. A self contained story about an established character without bashing the canon. Bra’tac, Egeria, Jolinar, Quetesh (Claudia is a fan… Read more »
@Darren I’d say yes to that if those are the people involved and with that budget. Though the web 10×10 web series format is pretty terrible; it makes things disjointed. 4×40 minutes would be amazing, like a mini-series proper. But again, if this hinders the road to a long-form series some how, then I would rather wait an extra year or two for that. Personally, I wasn’t a fan of SO. The acting was uninspired, it touched on an area I had no interested in (i.e., pre-SG1) , and it didn’t seem Stargate-y enough. I guess the bitterness of expecting… Read more »
I would watch another season of Origins, but I don’t like prequels. Move the timeline forward with an SGA/SGU crossover to wrap them both up, or just jump forward 8 years to match the real world gap and proceed from there.
Problem I see is that most of these other choices entailed too much SG-1 mythology to allow new fans to jump aboard – which is probably a prerequisite for what MGM is trying to do. SGO (season 1) was overall kind of meh.
Might not work with the Origins name, but I would rather have some closure to SGU or even Atlantis as a one season anthology series. I’m not holding my breath though.
This article doesn’t actually say anything.
Wright now is free, now that Travelers was unfortunately cancelled.
Does the great uncertainty inherent in the ending of Stargate Universe (Stargate Dark) create a entry point for something new?
@dana – You’re right that this piece isn’t meant to report new information for those who have been following the news on the site week-to-week for the past year. What it is meant to be is a one-stop landing page for those who are searching for info on whether or not Origins is going to continue in some form.
Stargate: Origins is a great concept and could be a great vehicle for telling Stargate stories (and building the mythology) if done properly – Brad & Chris at the helm, 13x 45 min episodes, good budget, etc.
Maybe they could even redo S:O season 1 in this format…
A big yes if they hire the right people, and write the right script. As I said in other comments, with Origins it wasn’t a problem of acting, but the script, was made to make the characters look silly, goofy, dumb. Fans don’t want a short series with a big “maybe another season”. We want a good story, great acting, well made and polished scripts and awesome scenarios. So MGM should drop the “maybe” or the “if”, if they want it, they can make it happen.
@Darren You know what I would, a mini series can be done really well. If you take NBSG as an example, the mini series Blood & Chrome was amazing, done with a tight budget and kept to canon, almost lol. The sound track was amazing as were the battles in it. Origins to me felt cheap, poorly acted and rushed. The special effects were horrific, I’ve seen better effects done on YouTube videos by people for free. Oo. If the series had of kept to canon, had of tried with MGM’s massive budget, it could’ve been amazing. There is a… Read more »
A continuing from Atlantis arriving back to earth would be far better place to continue with a new series.
Nooooooo it sucks, don’t waste time or money. Make something good.
@Darren I would never watch this trash. Terrible concept, horrible acting, directing and….I’ve already wasted too much time on the dumpster fire that is SGO…
Stargate SG1 was at best when earth and SG1 didn’t know everything. So what would I do, probably base a show off when a group that went through in season 3 when one of the gates was control by the NID or even when Hammond recovered that gate. Or may have a adventure with one of the missing SG teams that never return. I don’t really care who directs it or stars in it.
Maybe it’s just because I love Soviet/Russian aesthetics (lets be honest here, their late 90’s military was just a weaker Red Army), but I would love to see a show about the Russian Stargate missions. The Russians had the other gate for at least a few months and they didn’t mess up on their first mission, so there has to be some cool stories about a bunch of guys with Kalashnikov’s running through a forest fighting Goa’ulds that would make an interesting web series. And if it works out OK you could continue the series with the same characters because… Read more »
one thing I have noticed after being a stargate fan and watching re runs of the show so many times, it would make most peoples head spin is this. I honestly believe a few fundamental things of the show were taken away once every series appeared. it started with sg1 the crew had an agenda, to bring back alien technology for the greater good of the human race, to defend earth… ff to sga…..this stayed in the series till the end… but there were some minor changes in the show but it was still pretty good, i just think they… Read more »
What needs to happen, from the Atlantis perspective, is to do the final movie that was suggested wrapping things up. This could be done in such a manner that the “Origins” aspect could be lead into or even melted into the movie which would lead to another series that could go in many different directions as has been suggested in the article above. I know that this is a run on sentence, however it was just a thought stream that needed to be said :O)
I do think, as a concept, that origins would work. However if you are trying to reboot a franchise that appeals to a new audience (as well as giving fans a new “SG fix”) you are going to have to have an origins story that would have new fans wanting to see the other series already made. Movies included! The “Ancients” are the most logical place to start. It not only brings in the Origins concept, but also helps to explain the problems with the Goa-uld, (which can tie in another origins story within the series) as well as the… Read more »
bravo
That being stated in my previous post… the Stargate Universe movie, while great for fans, would do nothing for attracting a new audience. The Origins concept could work well with Christopher Judges’ input with Master Bra’tac reflecting on his past in story form. This story form can go back into mythos as to the story of the Goa’uld and Tok’ra and many other Origins avenues including his own struggle. This format would bring in new audiences as well as continue the Origins theme and would stay true to the Stargate franchise built so far. Going off in a separate direction… Read more »
Marketing is your biggest issue with the Origins concept. I knew nothing about it until I was watching re-runs of Atlantis on Amazon Prime. I was checking out the profile aspect on the “Michael” episode, when I discovered he had be featured in the Origins story. I own the full series (all 3) and movies (all 3) on DVD however wanted to see the profiles of some of the actors that is a feature of Prime. This being said, I am a huge fan of the Stargate franchise and as such have obviously formed my own opinions etc. It is… Read more »
dobbiamo spammare alla mgm di far riprendere le riprese di SGU. STOP. SOLO QUESTO.
Just say NO to another season of Origins. The whole concept of 10 minute episodes was horrid. Even watching them all back to back made it feel like I was watching one really long boring commercial. We need a true SG series, but everything I have read points to them not wanting one. Bleh.
You have to wonder, how clueless does MGM have to be in order to destroy a franchise that has spanned decades and succeeded with multiple locales and casts,, probably earning hundreds of millions.
Origins looked like an ambitious high school film club project, and I hope it is dead.
There are plenty of great Stargate scripts out there and lots of the former cast who would love to get on board.
What are you waiting for MGM?
bravo
I have only seen the 10 minute previews so far but it looks decent enough for a lower budget series tester. Outside of the purists SG fans I can’t fathom why so many are complaining about it seeing that we haven’t had anything SG to speak of for some time. We were spoiled by SG-1 and Atlantis! Be grateful that this is still some interest in trying to continue the series in some way.
I did not liked much of Origins. The acting was too goofy. A more serious tone would probably produced a better feedback. The only part I enjoy it was the Goa’uld’s voice, much like the movie really nice. And way less cheesy than the SG1’s simple monotone voice filter. I think it was a mistake to redo stories already “made”, such as Catherine’s and nazis? No! I mean we know that already, and we’ve heard about it a bazillion times. A much more appealing story would be the story of the rise of Ra. Or How some of Pegasus’ alterans… Read more »
It would be really, really nice if MGM would get it going again, SGAtlantis continued where it left off, The New future SG-1, ect, then part off with the above mentioned themes, The story of the Ancients would be extraordinary.
please no more Origins – it was so crappy….shows in the budget….low risk but low quality….better create new SG series, next generation, like what Star trek is doing…the universe is rich, so do it right!!
I want to see more stargate shows
Star gate origins Catherine was really good I really enjoyed it awesome job