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Jenks
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There was zero implication that Scott was a sex addict, unless you’re an immense prude and/or have a very sheltered life.

E.brooks
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I’m the furthest thing from a prude, but I have to disagree with you — a sizeable portion of those watching got the impression early on that Scott has sex problems. If you google Stargate Universe and Scott, you’ll see that plenty of folks use “sex addict” as a descriptor for the character. Now, do I think that was the writers’ plan? No. But they went about setting up Scott’s characterization all the wrong way.

Sylvia
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I can’t say I’m sorry SGU was cancelled because it wasn’t a show I enjoyed. But I do feel bad for the fans that did like it. I also think that while Brad Wright (and Cooper etc.) gave us some wonderful television over the years, he (and Cooper) was responsible for going in a direction that was not popular with the public, and thus, ending the francise on a sour note. Too bad, so sad.

Bluewater1
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Sex addict? For a twenty-something guy? Don’t think so.

Jim
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I got an impression Scott had emotional,not sexual problems and that was writers approach all along.But then again I am aware that lots of people never forgave them for showing more than just a kiss in the pilot.As well as the fact that they’d forsaken the ol’ will they,won’t they game and hooked up two of the major characters in the first few eps.Abandoning the “romantic ideal” wherin they have to go through many,many adventures and stuff and be all lovesick and overcome many obstacles before sharing the first momentuous kiss. As examples of Falling Skies and couple of days… Read more »

Mythos
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I only had a chance to listen to the first half of the podcast so far but it reminded me of all of the reasons why SGU failed. The comment about ‘As The Gate Turns’ really hit the mark. As for Scott being a sex addict, I didn’t really get that impression but I did find it unrealistic for him to suddenly go from hooking up in a closet while on duty to being in a committed relationship. Particularly when the woman he was hooking up with in the closet while on duty was still available. As well as other… Read more »

Gatefan1976
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I just find it amusing that every “complaint” that the supposed “haters” voiced is now being seen as reasons why SGU failed. Perhaps if SGU was not given the “protected status” it was given, there would not be the massive “fan devide” we see now?

Daxmaryrussel
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I thought the podcast was very balanced with loads of viewpoints mentioned, even negative ones. Interesting to hear Diane talk about how a story is build up in sections. End music was beautiful … and great it was a bit longer than usual so as to make us ponder a bit. Well edited David. I will listen to it again for sure (I’m an addict you know :) (also I like the voice messages from fan but downside is the quality can sometimes be a bit bad – being over the phone as it is, it sort of stops my… Read more »

Daxmaryrussel
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sorry for typos (build, fans) when will you get editing possibilities here? Or should I just take care and type in Word first and really check :)

Zach236
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I think the podcast hit the nail on the head for what the show did well and what it did not. After the first season I thought the new direction of Stargate with SGU was too slow. But season 2 started and by the 2nd half really had fleshed out and became substantially more entertaining than season 1. It is lamentable that it took so long for SGU to get from where it was in season 1 to where it was at the end of season 2.

Jim
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Matt couldn’t have been in a commited relationship with James(or the girl in the closet)because they were both service members,under the same command more to the point and he had a higher rank than her.That doesn’t mean he didn’t have sexual relations,I know it is a misconduct,but surprise!!..it happens.Don’t see why is that such a big problem.Although probably for the sake of the character it didn’t have to be shown like it was,maybe just implied,if that.Diane explained that well,it didn’t do his character a favour. And him getting into a commited relationship later on,well one way trip through a wormhole… Read more »

Duneknight
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sex addiction is the wrong word, it was more about being irresponsible, and then it was about feeling guilty and that somehow was fixed by chloe… no it wasnt, whatever his character arch was ruined from the beginning i cant make heads or tails of all the characters. rush and young were the only ones done well throughout the first season, the second season was just sga without the humor.

Damian
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I realise I’m late to this discussion. I’ve been reading this site for many years, perhaps about the time atlantis started, but the cancellation on SGU has prompted me to register and comment for the first time. IMO Atlantis started with the least charismatic characters of SG1 and took a while to really draw me in. What kept it going was action. SGU started slowly, but I was intrigued, and more interested than I had been with Atlantis. I liked the flawed character of Young, and the divisions within the group. I thought they added to the depth of the… Read more »

Duneknight
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@damian,

if you cant do it in 40 episodes you cant do it in a 100.

OmarEVG
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@Duneknight
So, if you don’t get a job during the first 5-10 tries, you should give up right away?

Things need time.

Duneknight
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@OmarEVG, The characters were done badly, and they are heart of every story, I cant see how the writers could overcome that and pretend it never happened short of killing them all off. But since they did the complete opposite by turning them into their own ancestors, well the problem doesnt go away. And you cant have one big nice family sprout off what we came to know as a dysfunctional group of people. If they wanted to do this big family theme then they shouldve started with that and introduced the cracks in the relationships later. This was a… Read more »

Jim
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@Duneknight I think your last sentence summarizes the heart of the problem.

Eagalis
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@OmarEVG getting a job and a T.V series are two completely different things. Lets go by you logic tho you can get a job after 100 tries having a degree in engineering and be flipping burgers. So with your logic the show still sucked…. and if things take too long than the harder it gets to obtain them… for example: Trying to find a job and you don’t get hired because you suck. the same as a show sure give it time but its still going to suck.

Jim
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I know it isn’t sci-fi genre,but I would just like to mention it here anyway;”Homeland” premiere is a perfect example imo as to how a pilot should be done/executed.To those who haven’t seen it,I strongly recommend they give it a shot.

Skiznot
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Hard podcast to listen to because I loved 1.0 and the episode “Life” and I thouth “Time” was actually one of the weaker episodes in 1.0 because it fell back on a tired trope. Also from early on, I saw where they were going with the show and trusted the writers. One misconception this podcast stated was that there was no story on the ship in “Life.” Rush found the signal from the seeder ships and he lied and told everyone there was an Icarus type planet a year away. But the best part about the episode was people out… Read more »

Skiznot
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Oh, and the show had plenty of humor. It was just a more natural wry sort.

Skiznot
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Sorry, not “wry” I mean cynical. Probably why I found it funnier than the other shows.

Skiznot
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I disagree completely @DuneKnight saying “And you cant have one big nice family sprout off what we came to know as a dysfunctional group of people.” If you had been watching the show you would see that the family vibe was what they fought for. The show was about hope and people coming together in spite of all of humanities flaws. Also I think the characters were superbly written which is why I cared about them more than any other crew in science fiction, trek included.

Ausfan
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I agree with Skiznot, haven’t listened to podcast yet but reading through the comments, I think firstly on Scott being a sex addict doesen’t add up, I think the issue was that he was afraid of attachment with relationships because his parents and than father figure priest ended up dying. He and Chloe would have come together early initially because they have something in common in terms of lost parents. As far as storyline goes, I think it is good to see how a relationship is affected (on this ship) due to the situation we are in (explored through season… Read more »