62 Responses

  1. flynnser
    May 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm |

    I really liked stargate universe!
    Obviously like every other stargate fan i was skeptical throughout the first season because I was freaked out by the change in style but i think the series really came into it’s own league through the second season and i’ll always regard epilogue as one of my top 5 favourite stargate episodes! It’s a shame that it’s been cancelled because I really got into it!
    How do I find out the ratings for the U.K?
    I’m eagre to find out how the series done over here on Sky1!

  2. Tommylandz
    May 20, 2011 at 8:55 pm |

    Damn WTH! This entire saga was amazing! I cannot seriously believe the damn suits cut SGU from SyFy. You know, they put on fake Wrestling because of the viewership…. what the hell. Ever heard of “Stick to your Guns”? SyFy, you can suck it. I know its a business so change your name then sell outs…. this sucks… Gateworld, I have followed for years but now I am so upset I had to make a post abou this. Im still upset and cannot believe that one of the greatest if not the best series on TV is canceled. The ratings system is flawed in a huge way. Stargate WILL be back. Might be years but its not over.

  3. Tommylandz
    May 20, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    Sorry had to post gain.. the best option for all of us is demanding a REAL SyFy channel who sticks to their guns…. BS

  4. Dachannien
    May 20, 2011 at 9:28 pm |

    So, remember what was in the SGU pilot before the first break? Gratuitous sex. (Hey, I like gratuitous sex, but that’s what the Internet is for. On the other hand, good sci-fi doesn’t grow on trees.) The whole “Stargate: 90210” thing was probably the least appealing aspect of the show for me, and as they gradually stopped hosing down the sets with testosterone, the series got a lot better. Unfortunately, it may have taken too long for them to settle on getting into the sci-fi and out of the soap opera (for example, the communication-stone-driven crap with Telford sleeping with Young’s wife), and their audience dwindled before they found the right balance.

    It’s for that reason that I still maintain that they should have dropped the communication stones early on. They were a crutch to try to wedge Earthside scenery into the series, and they were used in unrealistic and uncomfortable ways (would anyone really give unlimited consent for someone else to use their body, including possibly contracting an STD, getting pregnant, using drugs, etc.?).

  5. Tekrelm
    May 20, 2011 at 9:32 pm |

    “A large percentage of viewers (43 percent) who checked out the 3-hour pilot episode “Air” had tuned out by the first break.”

    I wonder how common that is in the TV industry. Sounds like a really huge, huge figure. The sex scene was before the first break, though, right? That probably turned off a lot of TVs right there, with people not expecting that kind of thing from Stargate. /shrug

  6. asecooper222
    May 20, 2011 at 10:10 pm |


    They don’t mean the first commercial break, they mean the first mid-season break. Air Part 3 actually got MORE viewers than the 2-parter the first week, which rarely happens in TV.

  7. Imperious
    May 20, 2011 at 10:17 pm |

    Lots of new shows start with a bang, then settle into a regular audience.
    SGU’s problem has been the SyFy channel itself, in that I don’t think it is possible for SyFy to pull 2+ million ratings numbers for a niche product like Science fiction anymore.
    I truly believe that if SGU had been on major networks it would have done considerably better.
    Even “V” and “The Event” have been cancelled with much higher ratings than SGU, even though those shows are no where near the quality of SGU.
    Lets hope somewhere down the track we’ll get a proper conclusion, SGU deserves it.

  8. worgel
    May 20, 2011 at 11:51 pm |


    I wouldn’t hold out hope for a conclusion as the book on quality sci-fi(in this case outer space sci-fi) is closing for good. None of the studios or networks will pay the production cost anymore. Get used to low brow/quality drivel on the tube from now on.
    I just can’t believe that Sy-Fy is putting money behind BSG: Blood & Chrome. There is just no point to it what so ever. All prequal stuff is just garbage. Heck, even Caprica should have just been a mini-series that would have aired right between BSG season 4.0 and 4.5.
    SGU deserved that attention SO much more than blood & chrome.
    But its all over now and that just plain sucks.

  9. StArGaTeFaN
    May 21, 2011 at 12:11 am |

    Hi everyone to be fair i almost didnt give SGU an chance cos it was so different and we were kinda flung into it with new characters plus i was still a bit annoyed at the rather abrupt ending/cancellation of SGA perhaps this is yet another reason why SGU didnt get as many viewers that they would have liked and lets face it if anyone has a few brain cells like me most people are cautious about getting into a new show anyway and like me some will tend to wait until after its had a few seasons and it looks like its gonna stick around i would normally either watch the reruns or get the dvds to catch up like i did with SG1 & SGA but i now regret not doing the same for SGU and until networks STOP CANCELING THEIR SHOWS B4 THEY ARE FINISHED i will now never watch a new show on any network until it has had at least 5-10 seasons but hey i do understand where they are coming from after all it is a business and they do need to earn a living but i cant stress this enuff tv networks need to step out of the limited linear one show at a time box most of us are changing the way we watch tv compared to how we used to watch tv about 10yrs or so ago we now tend to record to dvr or computer or download for later viewing rather than have to sit and watch shows on a strict time schedule and it wont be too long until people are if they are not already watching tv on the go on their ipads or smart phones the viewers are changing they way they watch tv so why are tv networks not changing the way they bring it to us?? dont they realize that everyone would be better off and would make alot more money???
    plz feel free 2 use this in a future article if u like Darren 1 guy that sees the obvious solution wont be able to convince the networks to update the way they bring tv to us but maybe if there is enuff demand for it they will thanks for reading every one :)

  10. JoeTheDragon
    May 21, 2011 at 12:27 am |

    Also SGU was running at the same time as other big shows.

  11. Duneknight
    May 21, 2011 at 5:49 am |

    Air Part 3 was a big problem and was the culprit. People tuned in after seeing the promos of epic desert planet and the way Air Part 2 ended hinted at something awesome was about to take place. Instead Air Part 3 was about some random priest abortion thing and having a chemistry set in the desert. it bored the hell out of people. They shouldve introduced the main plot right there, a villain or something cool.

  12. The destiny
    The destiny
    May 21, 2011 at 8:15 am |

    @ Duneknight
    there was a bit of a dropoff after Air III, but it’s normal for shows to drop after their pilot episodes. Season 1.0 was actually doing rather well, with almost all episodes 1.8, and most of them closer to 1.9. After “life” aired “Justice” took the fall the week after, losing over half a million viewers in one go, and right after that there was the mid-season hiatus, which in this case prohibited the ratings from rising to their previous level again. People left during Justice, and there wasn’t a show they could maybe try out again for several months, so they just.. sort of.. left. I think if season 1.0 had ended with “Space”, the story would’ve been different.

  13. mistergroenevingers
    May 21, 2011 at 9:17 am |

    “The network’s attempts to find a new audience on Tuesdays was a failure”
    Yet another snipe at SyFy. How mature.

    “Stargate Universe drew new fans who had never watched Stargate before.”
    There is NO evidence that SGU drew in more new viewers than SG1 and SGA were. Back when SG1 and SGA were airing there were undoubtedly people discovering SG with every episode. Whether they stuck around as fans or not is a different matter. Based on ratings it seems that SGU didn’t manage to create a lot of new fans or hold on to old fans.

  14. kilbot76
    May 21, 2011 at 10:27 am |

    It never got the chance that s.g.a. Got s.g.a got the run in from s.g.1 which in turn got all the s.g.1 audience.if s.g.a did not get that run in and s.g.1 had have been canceled s.g.a would never have got a second season never mind five. So in conclusion the stargate fans are very fickle and scorn anything new.I on the other hand love true to life sci-fy and know the best show on the idiot box is gone only to be replaced by mind numbing crap and reality shows.does anyone know were I can get a good price for a 50 in HD tv I won’t be needing mine anymore god I hate sy-fail.

  15. knowles2
    May 21, 2011 at 11:43 am |

    mistergroenevingers | May 21 @ 9:17 am

    They have tried three of there established franchise on Tuesday or Monday night all 3 have failed to established an audience on those, Sanctuary, SGU, and Caprica.

    Being Human succeeded but look at the Nielson numbers you can see they obtain a difference audience to the above show.

    I think we can safely 3 out of 4 shows is a appalling rate of failure for shows involve with the experiment. An the one that did succeed is not Syfy normal audience.
    An is not even Sci fi. Wrestling is there highest rated show and is not syfy.

    I think anyone looking the Syfy decisions will come to conclusion that its a network that does not know what it want to be or what programmes it wants to show.

    Which given that they underwent a huge re-branding is a rather worrying situation.
    Given Syfy have even starting to defend its decisions in public shows me that even they are worried about the situation the channel is in.

  16. AscendedTauri
    May 21, 2011 at 11:45 am |

    The episode that really plumeted SGU was “Life”. People were on edge by the heavy focus on drama in Season 1.0. People got some promising new directions with “Time” (an incredible episode), but we were flung straight back to HEAVY drama in “Life”…

    People left.

    And it’s sad because the show only improved from that point forward. Season 1.5 was more solid than 1.0, Season 2.0 more solid than any of Season 1. And then the final 10 episodes were simply incredible!

    It’s a shame, but there’s much to point the finger at starting with fans, the producers, and the network. I think the network is mostly to blame by their HORRENDOUS attempts at marketing SGU to the WRONG audience… but hey, it’s for the historians to analyze now.

  17. Duneknight
    May 21, 2011 at 11:51 am |

    actually its important to learn what went wrong so as to not repeat the same mistakes in the next stargate show or movie.

  18. The destiny
    The destiny
    May 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm |

    @ Duneknight:

    Important lesson #1: Do not announce the new show a couple days after the previous is cancelled. It creates bad-will.

    Originally SGU was supposed to air alongside SGA in the summer. End result: It did not air alongside SGA, and it did not air in the summer.

    Basically not one thing specifically, but everything went wrong. SGU wasn’t aired in the summer, and wasn’t aired alongside SGA, the fanbase was alienated because it seemed SGU replaced SGA, season 1.0 had too much focus on heavy drama ( far, far more than the other 3 halfseasons ), a badly timed long hiatus right after a dropoff of 550.000 viewers, stability is achieved in season 1.5 but no growth, another long hiatus and move to a different night. While it was a nice and honest try of SyFy to get the show to grow the opposite occured, then the show moved to Mondays and the cancellation during the hiatus created a lot of buzzkill for many people who lost interest ( I know someone who was very enthousiastic about SGU, but after cancellation he hasn’t watched the last 10 eps yet because he feared it lacked any form of closure. I think I managed to convince him though because the last 10 are amazing ). Throughout this history the love-hate debate raged on and especially during the first season of SGU every single article, youtube clip etc. about SGU was ablaze with comments like “SGU sucks!”. I think you can still find several hundred of such vids if you look on youtube.

  19. spamme
    May 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm |

    The simple fact is that the networks are pulling back spending on shows BIG time, so much so they are shooting themselves in the foot and loosing viewership to HBO and starz. Unless the show is a massive hit and stays there they are more likely to kill it than keep it. SGU was the best of all of the stargate shows. Punks ass moves like split seasons and airdate shifts just guarantee things don’t go well. Is there a comparison of available between new format purchases between SGA, SGU, SG1?

  20. oldman1975
    May 21, 2011 at 4:12 pm |

    I have to agree with some comments above. If SGU aired with SGA on Friday nights, things would have been different. SGU was the best int eh whole series. IT could have had a new villain every galaxy. New adventures – new planets nightly. Not the same four memebrs going thru the eye like SG1 and fighting the same life suckers on SGA. I liked them all but SGU was the best by far.
    SYFY’s reasons for killing it like they did prove they wanna compete with the major networks and they must realize they can’t. SYFY has a loyal viewership that they need to keep before the network gets sold again or closed for good.
    We just need to keep bombarding the network (SYFY and MGM) email, snail mail, ect. to get it back. The longer it sits idle – the more likely it will never come back. And the MORE LIKELY I WILL NOT RETURN TO SYFY.
    Bring it back or lose more viewers – Then you can be a full wrestling channel that has cooking shows.

    Everyone needs to get get on the forums on SYFY and express your views there DAILY.


  21. 3531767
    May 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm |

    They should have left stargate on fridays airing in the summer schedule as it used to.

    The buffons at syfy knew that moving it would cause a viewership drop just as has happened with sactuary. If they didnt know this then others should be running that network.

    Watch or not, Either way your next favorite show will disappear and be replaced with cooking shows or wrestling.

    Boycott syfy and send a message!But most of you wont. Youll just complain to each other and nothing will ever change.

  22. pegasusasgard
    May 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm |

    The real write-in, email, facebook, twitter, etc. campaign should be to Netflix to pick up the show as part of their new original programming. If a significant portion of the community did so, then they may see the potential for new subscribers. Then, even the tech savy could join the count of viewers as Netflix would be offering online viewing that matters in the decision making process.

    Thoughts Darren?

  23. Cube
    May 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm |

    Awsome Bring in those new fans and swap out the tons of old ones who stopped watching because the show stopped being stargate.

    They migh as well just called the show “Rumpelstiltskin gets lost in space with a ring thingy that spins”

    and they still could have got the new people and do what ever they wanted since the show would have no stargate stuff on it.

    They lost the point if they wanted to make a new show they should have just done it with out the stargate name on it.

  24. mistergroenevingers
    May 21, 2011 at 11:56 pm |

    I know the story of the ratings and the changes in days and all. I also read your open letter to SyFy as well as the response you received. When I read this article about ratings it seemed straightforward and factual, until I reached the part where you said the networks attempts were a failure. It may be true but the tone there seems to stick out from the rest of the article. Also I think it’s unnecessary there. That’s why I picked it up as a snipe/swipe. But no harm done.

  25. Ekras
    May 22, 2011 at 2:02 am |

    Syfy as a network is done. The have proven they will do anything to maximize short term profits, even if it means selling out their core audience. If the boycott (http://reformsyfynow.com) isn’t enough to stop them, someone will- another science fiction network (on tv or on the internet) will eventually emerge. Until than we all need to stick to our guns and completely tune out Syfy.

  26. heart
    May 22, 2011 at 8:06 am |

    The pilot episode ruined the entire series for many viewers. They obviously didn’t know half their viewing audience was under age. Soon as the pilot started with sex – off went the TV. And who the hell has sex on an alien ship three minutes after arriving anyway!! Damn stupid pilot episode writing killed the entire series.

  27. Onealwasoverrated
    May 22, 2011 at 10:46 am |

    @Ekras “Sticking to my guns” is no problem. Their programming doesn’t make me wanna watch it so….heh no issue there. I had actually stopped watching syfy back when it was SciFi and Stargate made me watch it again.

    It’s a real shame that this show wasn’t aloud to make its run. SG-U lost audience because the first season was so drama heavy. But it was a slight drama so it had to be heavy for the first parts. It was starting to become more settled and more of a Stargate with drama, than a drama with Stargate. I think moving the show was the exact wrong thing to do. I personally missed the show a few times because I don’t keep Syfy on at all times and missed the announcements. Tuned in at the normal time and BAM! no Stargate.

  28. lonix
    May 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm |

    If only they made a better season 1 it would still be going now… it was far too slow thats all. They could of gave us more in each episode and less character development, we dont need to know the characters so quickly…

  29. DocScience
    May 22, 2011 at 2:41 pm |

    I hear SyFi is working on a new wrestling series with Chris Judge.

  30. nickblack2010
    May 22, 2011 at 4:48 pm |

    I hate it that SGU is done. But rather than complaining on here, we need to be e-mailing SyFy and MGM! We gotta get our Stargate back!

  31. 3531767
    May 22, 2011 at 8:29 pm |

    The farscape fans were brutal with syfy after it was cancelled by SYFY and ended up with a 2 part miniseries to wrap it all up. Boy, syfy sure has a good track record regarding cancelling good shows.

    If fans would do the same with stargate we may get something.

  32. starfangate86
    May 23, 2011 at 1:49 am |

    I wished that some other network could of picked up SGU for season three like Sci Fi did for season Six of SG1. or the other thing is that there should be a tv network thats just for stargate. by that i mean all the speacials, all the movies and all the tv series as well for Stargate

  33. jdb
    May 23, 2011 at 1:52 am |


    A lot of people have said they would not watch SyFy after the SGU cancellation. Perhaps it would be helpful document the erosion in viewers through ratings.

    Might be useful to remind SyFy that there was a consequence to not having a Stargate series anymore.

  34. thermalzombie
    May 23, 2011 at 5:01 am |

    If it wasnt for most of season one being so boring it may have kept its viewers. Season 2 specifically the second half was much improved and I would would have liked it to continue.

    I think they sould have combined episodes such as Air and Water to speed up the story and the music video sequences were pointless not that they didnt look good just a waste of time and didnt really work.

  35. orfeu
    May 23, 2011 at 5:42 am |

    Maybe we should have a more complete article of the ratings, which should include SD and SD+7 for all episodes. Also if we could find the numbers for DVD and Bluray sales, that would be great, although I doubt we will see any of those.

    This way we should be able to have a better picture of the impact of the day change. But we have to admit that the ratings at which SGU stabilized in the second season were below SGA and were also cancelation territory.

    Anecdotally, we also know some people gave the show the first season to hook them in. Guess it was a bad season. The second wasn’t that much better.

  36. orfeu
    May 23, 2011 at 5:44 am |

    ERRATA: “But we have to admit that the ratings at which SGU stabilized in the second season were below SGA and were also cancelation territory.”

    should be

    “But we have to admit that the ratings at which SGU stabilized in the second part of season 1 were below SGA and were also cancelation territory.”

  37. WaltShrout
    May 23, 2011 at 5:48 am |

    I think there is a lot of SGU that can work, but it would take a meeting with the big guy. He not only shut down the show, but he shut down the franchise until they could come up with something else. SGU is not dead unless he is unwilling to listen.
    Now, First, let’s examine what is left of SGU. There should have been a civilization meeting by now, as the other franchises had many by the time they got into the second season. The others had their first encounter in the first episode. Let’s face it, Our big guy has not followed the formula. Get him in here and talk. I have ideas, as I’m sure many of you do, that would kill the loser image and save this franchise.
    Lose the dispair and the music that causes it. If you dispair when you go thru the show, what’s left? The other frachises had better music, better meetings, more upbeat stories and a rich experience, whereas, this defeatist story has done it’s worst. I would turn tail and run for home too.
    Get these guys back! Let’s get this back on track! Lets show these peaple what can be done! Let’s sell this how back on the air!

  38. janet99
    May 23, 2011 at 7:40 am |

    The figures reconfirm the charge many have always been making, that the show was dealt a death blow by a bunch of horrendously dull episodes in season 1.0 (i.e. first half of season 1).

    This caused a 43% audience drop (43%!!!!) whereas even broadcast-night changes and cancellation only caused a single figures drop (which I reckon means had those 2 events not occurred its possible we would have seen at least a small audience rise).

    I don’t think we should blame the plan, rather its execution, and in particular some plain lousy episodes at a pivotal time in show’s lifecycle.

  39. McJoe
    May 23, 2011 at 11:33 am |

    WWE represents the current state of mind in the world. Dumb as a box of rocks. Mindless and numb in the soul. I guess SyFy has learned that you can’t give quality scipted shows anymore because most people do not understand the depth of a good science fiction. Must cater to the dummies…Watch Idiocracy…funny but true

  40. peteym5
    May 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm |

    This is no longer about saving “Stargate Universe” but is becoming a battle to bring “Stargate” back in some form as soon as possible. Stargate shows were a constant on the Syfy channel since 2001 and I find it hard to believe everyone abandoned it so quickly.

  41. pegasusasgard
    May 23, 2011 at 11:07 pm |

    SGU fans, it is time for us to get serious about the efforts to save this show. We need one concerted effort in which we have some possibility of success. That effort does not involve the SyFy channel. They lost faith in SGU as a profit maker long ago. Therefore, we must look elsewhere. We need to look to Netflix. Netflix is looking to start making original programming and SGU would be a great opportunity for them and us as sci-fi fans for several reasons.

    Why SGU makes sense for Netflix:

    1. SGU already has a fan base. They do not need to go out and create a show and hope it finds a fan base. SGU has a proven fan base in the US alone of around one million people.
    2. SGU is part of a larger franchise. If they have success with SGU, then they can easily translate that into future success with the franchise as a whole (i.e. through SG-1 and SGA movies or through a new series for the franchise).
    3. SGU fans are likely more willing than normal fans to be early adopters of an online streaming network for original programming. Not only are they more likely to be open to the idea, but they are more likely to push for such a system.
    4. They can use SGU as a major linchpin in their push into the international market. SGU and the Stargate franchise already have an established international fan base. As part of the team making the show, they can more easily negotiate international distribution rights.

    Why Netflix makes sense for SGU:

    1. Netflix is a medium through which SGU fans can directly support their show. The actual number of fans watching will be recorded. This means no more relying on Nielson ratings and their statistical sample.
    2. If SGU is a hit on Netflix’s original streaming program, then it may be possible for other shows the fans like to be made by Netflix (i.e. SG-1 and SGA movies, or another Stargate series, or other scripted sci-fi shows that would not get a true chance on a television network).
    3. Netflix has the capability to make the international audience for SGU and the Stargate franchise count in real time numbers and not later as it becomes available in each country. Netflix wants to expand into international markets, and SGU is a great avenue for them. It is a formula that works for both Netflix and Stargate fans.

    SG-1 and SGA fans, this is not just about SGU. It is about the Stargate franchise as a whole. Now is the time for you to act as well. Help save SGU, even if you are not a fan, and help save out hope for the SG-1 and SGA movies. I want to see these movies, even in spite of the plot spoilers, and I know many of you do too. Save SGU and prove to Netflix, and MGM, that the Stargate franchise is a franchise worth investing in now, and not 10 years from now.

    How can you help? Let Netflix know that you are willing to become a subscriber, or if you are already a subscriber, then let them know you are more likely to stay, if they adopt SGU as part of their original programming. There are several ways to contact Netflix. You can call Netflix toll free in the US at 1-866-716-0414. You can also use social media to contact them on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/netflix and on Twitter at @netflix (page is http://twitter.com/netflix). You can view and comment on their blog at http://blog.netflix.com/. It appears Netflix does not have email customer service (I kid you not). Finally, do not forget to spread the word to other Stargate fans on Facebook, Twitter, and elsewhere. We need a united campaign to save the Stargate franchise.

  42. kumtrya
    May 23, 2011 at 11:22 pm |

    I’m not sure why sex scenes freaked everyone out so much. It was hardly a focal point for the show at all and actually helped contribute to the suspension of disbelief. The characters were real people with real problems and human urges, unlike the near archetypal nature of characters past. I like old Stargate, but SGU was something worth exploring too.

  43. Browncoat1984
    May 24, 2011 at 2:26 am |

    Don’t know why people were freaked out by the sex. While I feel it was done to much, it didn’t freak me out, I mean, Stargate SG-1 had nudity in the original pilot!

    You can’t pinpoint one single problem for why it was canceled. I’m sure its a combination of both the writing and the scheduling by SyFy. At the same time, doesn’t everyone say “most sci-fi shows take 2-3 years to really settle and get good” yet apparently people weren’t willing to give it that chance or to at least come back and see how much it improved. If the Star Trek audience treated Deep Space Nine the way that the Stargate audience treated Stargate Universe then DS9 would have ended after season 2-3 and we would have never seen how awesome it would have become in the end.

  44. orfeu
    May 24, 2011 at 6:17 am |

    There was a very simple reason the show was canceled: it wasn’t good. People didn’t follow it, didn’t buy the DVDs, didn’t DVR that much.

    If we consider the ratings from Friday for SGU good enough, which were not, then we have very good reason to call liars everyone who says that SGA was canceled because of low ratings. Since we didn’t have a raise in DVR after the move to Tuesday, people just gave up on it.

  45. velnias
    May 24, 2011 at 8:11 am |

    @Browncoat1984 I agree with what you say, anyway I have been mouth dropping since I read “people were freaked out by the sex”. Really? I wonder what do they have to say about Spartacus.

    It’s a pity some people didn’t gave it a chance, even though some of them (who keep criticising the show that has already been cancelled xD As if they need to spend day after day here trying to convince us SGU was terrible cos their opinion is the one and only truth) admit to have been watching the entire SGU…

    1st season was bad, boring. But here is the difference, some of us believed in the franchise and hoped for SGU to get better, cos we understood although missing it, that it was almost impossible to have SGA back and the thing is that the second season was improving at each episode. Pitty some didn’t have the patience and that some others just hated the series. Anyway I really can’t believe how someone who comes everyday here to say the show was so bad, admitted that has seen all episodes xD You know this is something I can’t understand, if I don’t like something I simply don’t watch it… What’s the point in watching 40 episodes of a series he says he doesn’t like?!?!

    The funniest of all is to see all those who were complaining about SGU being so bad and demanding SGA and were so happy at SGU’s cancellation now have to see, with SGU’s cancellation two other projects have been dropped SGA movie and SG1 movie xD. Although the news saddens me, it’s hilarious to think those who enjoyed so much the cancellation of SGU, who have been defending it so vigorously now have to face the possible end of the franchise… xD Keep hating!!

  46. orfeu
    May 24, 2011 at 11:38 am |

    I am fairly sure that calling names the persons that offer criticism in a constructive manner for a show can only attract a larger following to SGU, currently a cult status show (not!).

    So some people that didn’t like SGU, but are still fans of Stargate, want to talk about Stargate. And they didn’t like the direction the PTW took the franchise. Last I checked GW was a show about Stargate, not SGU, although there was a time one would think otherwise.

    People weren’t scared of the sex scenes, they were disgusted by the pointless sex scenes. People didn’t object to SGU being different, they voiced their concern about being bad and what it did to the franchise (and they were right to do so, it seams).

    And many fans said that if this is what Stargate would be in the future, they prefer no Stargate, which just meant they stopped watching. I still can’t think of SGU as Stargate, no matter how much some very invested people want to push it like this. And it seams that most fans are in agreement about it. Even the fans of SGU speculate that if SGU wasn’t tainted by the Stargate name, maybe it would’ve done better. Actually I think it is the only point on which both parties are in agreement.

    Please no more BSG wanna be’s! They killed Science Fiction.

  47. morgauxo
    May 24, 2011 at 4:48 pm |

    What’s going to happen to Syfy channel when one of the big networks wakes up and realizes it could easily outbid Syfy and take wrestling?

    As for defending the Syfy business execs as just doing what is right for their business.. I don’t think so. The SciFi channel (remember them?) was built on a niche market. Sure, it’s niche, any channel limited to that market has a limit to it’s growth. That limit comes with a benefit too. Lack of competition.

    SciFi was started by a small, local cable company. They weren’t going to have the resources to compete with the big networks for the main reality tv, csi and wrestling type markets. They found an underserved niche and owned it.

    Now their ownership of that niche has them thinking they can go take on the bigger market. I suppose they can, they are owned by USA now. They can just become USA2. But why? Couldn’t USA just as easily start their own USA2!

    Why does USA let Syfy try to compete with them? Wrestling shoudl be on USA! USA could have used “The SciFi Channel” to own the scifi market for a very long time. Meanwhile it has it’s own channel for the bigger market. What do they gain by gutting SciFi to make USA2?

  48. velnias
    May 24, 2011 at 5:09 pm |

    Hahaha BSG wanna be killed science fiction? Hahahaha So funny you criticise space operas when Star Wars, 2001 odyssey, Blade Runner… xD So in the end what lacked in SGU was another O’Neill clone Like Sheppard in SGA? Or is it that is not interesting to watch the possible evolution of humans beings in a situation like SGU evolve? Oh yeah, I forgot about the disgusting sex scenes… Awesome they were sooooo, soooo… They were soooo that I can’t remember just 1 sex scene xD Like the saying: “Haters gonna hate”. you will just get to anything to keep criticising SGU over and over xD again and again xD really pointless sex scenes xD Awesome! when 99,99% of what is broadcasted in tv (lets exclude sports) has sex… but SGU shouldn’t! xD

    Is it that it lacked a jump to a world at each episode to see again something which we have already been watching for 15 years? The only thing you don’t get as much as I hated it in its moment when SGA was cancelled was that the creators of Stargate were tired of having to write, produce the same story they had been doing for 15 years. And although that may or may not please us it’s something quite understandable if you think about it just a bit…

    About your criticism in a constructive manner… That’s sooooooooooo funny. To say the series suck and spend the whole time saying it again and again and again is constructive? I think we come from different worlds because for me a constructive criticism would be saying the things that should be done to improve what you are criticising and not being a scratched record repeating again and again the things you dislike. But hey I know every one is free to have different opinions but don’t know, I still have to see anything constructive in your comments, in fact I only see you repeating yourself as much as a meal full of onion and garlic.

    Anyway this was the best “So some people that didn’t like SGU, but are still fans of Stargate, want to talk about Stargate. And they didn’t like the direction the PTW took the franchise. Last I checked GW was a show about Stargate, not SGU, although there was a time one would think otherwise.” I only see you talking about SGU, well not talking xD just criticising it in your NOT so constructive manner. xD Really get this comment of yours, write it in a paper, put it below your pillow, read it every night to make it your sense of live… Cos by now you are utterly failing at that statement.

    What you have to understand is that life goes on. You know, when SGA was cancelled the main theme, was its cancellation, thousands or hundreds of thousands of posts were written about it. Now the main theme is SGU cancellation, we know you hate it with all your soul, we know you haven’t gotten over the fact that SGA was cancelled, but you have to understand SGU has the same rights to be as commented as what SGA was at its time. If you don’t like SGU’s posts xD it’s easy just skip them, and talk about the rest of the franchise as you said in your comment! You have 15 years to choose! But no, you just keep coming here to say SGU was bad, boring and blahblahblah.

  49. orfeu
    May 25, 2011 at 1:22 am |

    Thank you for your time to answer me. I am just trying to pass the message that the BSG line of development is not a welcome one. Also I want say that SGU is not Stargate, so if anyone considers resurrecting the franchise, he should forget it.

    It is not hate, it is a cold assessment of the show. I could use some strange, contrived words to say the same thing as the word “bad” says, but I don’t see any reason to do so. SGA had its problems, many because of the show runners. There was a better way to improve the franchise than change it so much: fire the writers, fire the show runners. Much cheaper too. After what they did with SGU, nobody will touch it for a while in order for the memories of it to fade.

  50. velnias
    May 25, 2011 at 7:02 am |

    @orfeu You don’t like BSG good for you!! It’s still one of the biggest sci-fi shows, but I swear if I had a biscuit I’d email you one. You don’t like SGU cos is such a bad (or any other strange, contrived word you think you could use) good for you!! But here you are xD day after day showing how much SGU is over you, you just can’t let it go, can you? You know, I don’t like apricots, so I don’t eat them and neither spend my day in boards of apricots’ fans telling them apricots deserve to be eradicated cos I have other things more important to do like, for example, peeling a peach.

    Everyone involved in SG is saying, you shot in your own food cos thanks to you guys making it as personal as obsessed have killed the franchise, (that’s what they are saying, not me) everybody in the franchise was saying SG needed SGU to work. It was understandable that after writing the same stuff for 15 years they needed a break, a different path to come back with new ideas for SGA and even SG1. It surprises me how all those intelligent being who were so against SGU couldn’t understand something so simple as that any creative process dies when it becomes monotonous and repetitive, well I thought any intelligent being could understand that but now I see I forgot about grown up selfish brats. It’s funny to see that you still don’t get that with all that vigorous opposition what you’ve done is to make them think “to hell with you”. It’s obvious. When SG1 was cancelled people criticised SGA people were mad about it, but it wasn’t so psychotic as it’s been with SGU. Now you can keep working on it keep removing the dirt, keep going SGU was Bad (or any other strange, contrived word you think you could use). But the truth in the end is that thanks to SGU’s cancellation all projects of SG franchise have been dropped… So good job! Celebrate it cos you’ve won, right? SGU is cancelled!

    About your fire the writers and the show runners really cool xD so you don’t care about anyone but you and your loved show? xD Doesn’t matter if they had been 15 years there xD just fire them all cos I want to keep watching it and if they can’t, don’t feel like, need a break or don’t have anything to write after all those years fire them all!!! Producers, creators, writers clean the whole SG and put new people at every place cos I want my show running!! Would it be the same show after you’ve fired them all? Is it that you only care about actors? Awesome! keep going like that!

  51. morgauxo
    May 25, 2011 at 10:47 am |

    Stargate writers were growing tired of writing the same story over and over for 15 years? I don’t doubt it! The story arcs were getting to seem pretty familiar! But was adding a third show with an entirely different style to it a valid way to save the franchise? I don’t think so. They were targeting a different audience with the same franchise! It would have been much better to just wrap up all the storylines and start a new franchise. Stargate could have then been rebooted by someone fresh 10-20 years later.

    Instead they added a whole new story arc. It may not have been very compelling to fans of the other series at first but in an attempt to save it they started making it more like the originals. Now Universe is yet another unfinished story arc and the franchise is dead.

    I for one would have been happy if they had just given SGA a proper ending. I really enjoyed SG1 and SGA but would have been relieved to see a real ending after seeing what almost happened to Farscape and what did happen to Odyssey 5 (Showtime).

    SGA certainly came close enough to ending plenty of times. One of their attempts to take care of the wraith should have just worked and ended it. SG1 ended OK. Sure, they could have dealt with the Lucian Alliance in another movie but before SGU built that enemy up they weren’t such a big deal they had to be dealt with. Disclosure would have been cool but not necessary to finish the series.

    SGU could have been an unrelated series with it’s own universe and that would have been just fine. Maybe that would have allowed it to do better without giving old SG fans a reason to hate it and non-SG fans a reason to dismiss it. It might have even picked up all of BSG’s old fans if it started with maybe a little more action.

    Had they done this I probably would have picked up watching some of SyFy’s other shows. As it is I don’t trust SyFy. I might watch 15 years of another show just to be left with a non-ending! Instead I will just wait and hope against all probability that they somehow come back and finish Stargate. Meanwhile I refuse to watch any new SyFy shows unless maybe their series end and I read online that they ended well. Then I might watch the reruns.

    Sure, I’m just one person but I really doubt I am alone.

    What I am really taking away from this is DON’T BOTHER WITH TV! Go outside, get hobbies, forget about TV!

  52. morgauxo
    May 26, 2011 at 1:59 pm |

    Well.. Here’s something different. Instead of letting ratings and advertising determine if a show gets made just let the people who want to watch it pay for it.

    Check out this series

    No, I am not affiliated with them in any way.

  53. TheDoctorUK
    May 26, 2011 at 10:37 pm |

    Lets say we all donate €5/£5/$10 each to a pot, then all we send it to a studio to produce a episode when it hits a million, everyone who donates gets a free digital copy and encourages any downloaders(freeloaders) to pay into the next one, before we know it we will have a TV network. And what whould make i better we could call it SciFi Channel, Showing SciFi not Sy(now show reality rubbish and no Sci)Fy <<< Like what I put there.

    Problem is we whould need the support off the cast of SGU to take a hugh ass pay cut, now i`m sure Dr Rush (Robert Carlye) could do that, Being he turned down the role to be The Doctor (Numpty)

    Now the problem is it whould take about 2-3 years to get going, Oh I see what the writers did there, 3 years to next galaxy.

    BUY The DVD/BLU-RAY box set, send MGM/SYFY/OTHER MISCELLANEOUS NETWORKS letters of support and dont care who picks up the tab, but support SGU, HELL even re-air it on free to air channels, SIGN UP to facebook groups, dont let it DIE!

    Rant over.

    If you want something doing right, well like the phrase says, DO IT YOURSELF (even if its a group effort!)

  54. mindeexas
    May 27, 2011 at 5:47 am |

    I just have one question,this is the end for Stargate ?

  55. acey916
    May 30, 2011 at 2:29 am |

    I dont think its the end. I think its going to be a while before any “new” Stargate will come out, be movies (Which is what I think there best option is.) or a new series, Stargate will come back!!

    No TV Franchise lasts TEN seasons, new series 5 seasons then something that is really as good as SGU is, go away. There is money to be made here, MGM has no money. Its like the Oakland Raiders, MGM needs to die and sell away Stargate, Hopefully someone like Fox or Paramount or even TNT would pick it. Stargate is really to big of a franchise to lose, I saw SGU on 2 different channels today, and I saw Atlantis on today as well. The other day I couldnt believe it I saw Stargate SG1 on Showtime HD an older episode too, Scorched Earth, snd then Beneath the Surface. Just shows that its every where on TV still!!!!! Its not going to die!!!

    Id be afraid of the day that Stargate is not on TV at all. Stargate UNiverse is better the second time you watch the series. The first time I didnt really like the change from Atlantis and SG1 at first but then the 2nd time I watch it I like it more and more. Its a damn good attempt at a serious go out “drama” type of show there is. What better drama than hella people trapped on a spaceship is there on tv. None that I like. Anyways SGU is better the 2nd time you watch it. The more channels that pick it up, A lot of people dont watch the SYFy channel because its SYFY, honestly. But people like Science Fiction, real Science Fiction. The more channels that play Stargate Universe the better. I still watch it on TV when I see it for that reason alone. RATINGS, ha! Then when it ends I watch the next episode on Netflix or my Boxsets, mostly netflix tho.

  56. acey916
    June 1, 2011 at 6:34 pm |

    I know Showtime was the original brodcast station to Air Stargate SG1 I was just surprised to still see it on Showtime!! It was great No commercials and in HD!!! Stargate will not die!! Why? Because there are too many people like us!! FANS!!! its all about the Fans!!!! and we are here and we are LOUD!

  57. QuantumDivide
    June 1, 2011 at 6:42 pm |

    Bring back Stargate Universe

  58. Beanloff
    June 7, 2011 at 7:28 pm |

    I would like a conclusion, Like SERENITY for the FIREFLY series, How About a DESTINY movie for SGU…

  59. julslakeheath
    June 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm |

    You know, IMHO, Sci-fi channel lost the “science fiction” in their programming when they forgot how to spell it. I knew it was a bad omen. But leaving that aside, I can — I really can — understand how the suits-without-insight might cancel a show if it didn’t make the ratings. My big, huge, this-makes-no-sense-so-it’-bound-to-be-political issue is with MGM. OK, so SGU didn’t make it . That in no way negates the success and longevity of the rest of the series and movies. Why was the entire franchise and all related projects canceled? Not only is that remarkably short-sighted, it doesn’t make sense financially, either. In all the carefully-worded releases that tried to address the fans’ issues, I never saw this extremely bad decision addressed. Just think, if in the ’60’s, Paramount had succeeded in closing Star Trek down…let’s see is it 4 series and 9 movies excluding TOS that would be absent from our sci-fi lore? What a loss that would have been! What will we be devoid of in future if Stargate is gone forever. Tragic! So, forget SyFy. There are other networks. Let’s bombard MGM!


  60. ifantis
    June 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm |

    I always had Sci Fi channel on my lineup of channels that i always jumped through to find something on TV and pretty much after they changed to SYFY things started getting retarded I still checked it for the occasional SG1 SGA or SGU episode as well as keeping up with all of the scheduled new episodes but since SGU has been cancelled I almost never even look to see whats on syfy. Im only down to a few NON retarded channels now thats to syfy screwing them selves out of another viewer. I dont get how they consider SGU a flop on ratings but they still keep playing those crappy B movies, does anyone really ever watch them anyway? Between Retarded execs. and Reality TV shows I’m going to have to turn off my cable sooner or later.

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